Superman (July 11th, 2025)
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Top Gun Maverick didn't make 1.5B because it was an action driven film - there was ****-all action in it.
It did it because of Maverick's demons; the audience felt for him and all the **** he was carrying around with him for so long, so you wanted him to "win" and come out on top. To grow and be a better person for his growth.
It's the small human stuff that makes things resonate and endure. The fundamentals that make humans, human - regardless of your background - particularly when starting fresh. If it's too focused on all these different characters in it's introduction it dilutes Superman himself.
This will come and go, do okay business, but won't endure any more than the level of Man of Steel. The comic book buffs and franchise addicts will make it burst out of the gate, then it will wear off quickly... maybe 700-800M max.
Happy to pull my head in if it's great, but Gunn is too by the numbers.
It did it because of Maverick's demons; the audience felt for him and all the **** he was carrying around with him for so long, so you wanted him to "win" and come out on top. To grow and be a better person for his growth.
It's the small human stuff that makes things resonate and endure. The fundamentals that make humans, human - regardless of your background - particularly when starting fresh. If it's too focused on all these different characters in it's introduction it dilutes Superman himself.
This will come and go, do okay business, but won't endure any more than the level of Man of Steel. The comic book buffs and franchise addicts will make it burst out of the gate, then it will wear off quickly... maybe 700-800M max.
Happy to pull my head in if it's great, but Gunn is too by the numbers.
I did say I wanted them to be taken seriously and not be as light-hearted. I didn't say I wanted to be dark, oppressive and dreary.
I never once mentioned how Jurrasic Park was taken seriously or compared it to the book in any way.
If you actually read what I've written about three times now I'm commenting on the description of the movies being discussed with the Jurassic Park example. Everything else regarding that you're either incapable of reading or fabricating your own argument.
You seem to have missed the point of the Granny Peach Tea, that's fine plenty do but how the hell you miss the point of an "armoured" suit is beyond me.
If The Empire Strikes Back with a green muppet and a walking carpet as main characters can be taken seriously then superheroes can do and obviously have done.
Being a Tom Cruise legacy sequel didn't hurt it either but I agree with what you're saying.
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Silly arguments, on THESE boards!?... I've never heard of such nonsense...
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Again what makes you think this isn’t being taken seriously? Cause of the trunks? Lmao. And I’m using the armored bat suit as an example. Like if you are ok with an armored rodent suit and piss in a jar but trunks is to silly for you then maybe superhero movies aren’t for you or you are just hugely biased. I already know which one it is lol.
And nice back peddling in your jp argument. You literally said you wanted it to be taken seriously like the jp movie. Your definition is dark and dreary as being taken seriously. Jp the first movie is not that
Not as serious.
Yes I'm okay with an armoured suit
And yes, I'm okay with an untraceable signal to the Senator, a perfect callback that says F you and makes you think about what is in it but could easily.
Show me, if you can.
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I’m not showing you anything. You said it. Find it yourself. And great! If your cool with an armored bat suit and pee in a jar and other stuff but red trunks ruin a movie for you and you don’t take it seriously cause of just that I don’t know what to tell ya.Not as serious.
Yes I'm okay with an armoured suit
And yes, I'm okay with an untraceable signal to the Senator, a perfect callback that says F you and makes you think about what is in it but could easily.
Show me, if you can.
The teaser opens with Superman bloodied and beat up. That looks serious to me. Even if it’s followed by a silly dog who drags him away
How the hell can I find something I didn't do?I’m not showing you anything. You said it. Find it yourself. And great! If your cool with an armored bat suit and pee in a jar and other stuff but red trunks ruin a movie for you and you don’t take it seriously cause of just that I don’t know what to tell ya.
The teaser opens with Superman bloodied and beat up. That looks serious to me. Even if it’s followed by a silly dog who drags him away
You brought it up and got condescending about it. Either back up your claim or concede.
Times change. It’s lame. Always been lame and always will be lame.To the “no trunks” people, mind ya business…Supes has been rocking the undies for 79 of his 86 years (78 and a half if I’m being generous and count that Superman Red/Blue business that lasted for 6 months) and nobody had a problem with it until Jim Lee came in with his busy ass redesign. You guys don’t even get to do the “it’s new and exciting” and “times change” **** anymore because he’s had them back in the comics for the last 7 years and looks as great as ever (don’t believe me? Peep Dan Mora’s art over the last few years and tell me that it hampers the design in any way)…
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You wrote it buddy. lol. It shouldn’t be hard to find and I explained it to you countless times but again you don’t get it.
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I have zero faith in Gunn, GOTG 3 is the only good..only good..one out of the 3, Gunn is not good with humor at all.
I am excited to see a new Superman movie and the story beats seemed interesting in the trailer which is important so good on them for getting that right but Wor-Gar is right this trailer looks like an expensive CW show which goes back to the high frame rate choice for this trailer, which is really odd.
Visually not cinematic at all!
I was going to trash on the guitar theme, it just didn’t work for me, but I get it, Superman flies like a top gun pilot get it and since my brother was an Air Force pilot, I’ll leave it alone lol
I am excited to see a new Superman movie and the story beats seemed interesting in the trailer which is important so good on them for getting that right but Wor-Gar is right this trailer looks like an expensive CW show which goes back to the high frame rate choice for this trailer, which is really odd.
Visually not cinematic at all!
I was going to trash on the guitar theme, it just didn’t work for me, but I get it, Superman flies like a top gun pilot get it and since my brother was an Air Force pilot, I’ll leave it alone lol
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Obviously didn't explain it will enough for someone as stupid as I.
It reminds of that time you said BvS was the best Superman movie then totally flipped your opinion the next day.
jye4ever
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After the costume reveal failure the dog was the other thing I thought they were going to mess up, and that is one thing they got perfectly right!
At least his purpose. I still don’t like the breed.
At least his purpose. I still don’t like the breed.
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When on heavens earth did I say that
This bothered me for a second, but just because he's impervious to pain doesn't mean he wouldn't feel that at all or react in surprise by something hitting him in the back of the head.
Last year in the Rebel Moon thread.When on heavens earth did I say that
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The more I watch this trailer the more I love it.
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