Star Wars: Andor (April 22, 2025)

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My ideal look for a Cassian figure would be his season 1 finale look.
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Andor season 2 photos...

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Could they make it look any drearier?

The last two images sum up how dry this is looking compared to Ahsoka or Skeleton Crew.
 
and yet so much better than Ahsoka and Skeleton crew

Andor is such a different kind of series to any of the others, just as Skeleton Crew is also different to any of the others.

I'd put those two at the extreme opposite ends of the Star Wars spectrum.


Andor was a welcome new angle in the franchise, which I'm also getting from Skeleton Crew (though the latest episode felt a bit weird).

Ahsoka sits in the comfortable middle, and has oddly enough become my favourite of the Disney series and the one I find myself keep going back to.


It took me a long while to get the urge to revisit Andor, and it only happened because I set myself the task of re-watching all the series (except The Acolyte, of course).

As good as it is, I don't really find the character of Cassian very engaging, or at least the way Diego Luna plays him. Plus Cassian is going to be incinerated in a few years so there's a grim future to add to the overall tone of the series. The season 2 photos are selling the idea more of a process cop show than a space opera, more the style of The Wire or the relentlessly bleak Mayor of Kingstown than mainstream Star Wars.

I'll watch it for sure, but it's not high on my list of anticipated series.
 
I found the main cast of Ahsoka more bland than Andor. It is a flashy show sure, but the stupid writing in Ahsoka just makes it hard to watch for me. I think that Andor has longer legs, it will be spoken of further in the future than most of the Disney shows. I obviously much prefer Andor over Ahsoka/Skeleton Crew. Different strokes for different folks.
 
Andoris such a different kind of series to any of the others, ...
Andor was a welcome new angle in the franchise,
Agree, It took one aspect of SW, and went in deep into the grittiest part of it, with maybe a character who is the hardest to like and root for,
A guy who we first meet, to survive just one more day in the shadows, is willing to (quietly in the back) kill an informant who he knows will break under torcher... and carries the weight of that kill for the rest of the film.

Seeing who the guy is, how and why they can come to that point, is exactly what I like about it.

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"During the Battle Rebel Spies..."
The season 2 photos are selling the idea more of a process cop show than a space opera, ...
I'd say they are going more Spy Thriller, than a process Cop Show.
From the onset, they let us know where they were pulling this character from, right to the source, and this is it, I'm thinking this season will finally dive deepest into that "Rebel Spy" aspect of the character, and the missions he undertakes.
And yeah SW pulled from and lends itself to so many genres, I'm hyped to see this one explored to it's best.

Plus Cassian is going to be incinerated in a few years so there's a grim future to add to the overall tone of the series. ...
There are those who complained- but I already know how he dies so I can't see how this can be interesting.
They've apparently never heard of or can imagine a historical movie, where they know how things end up.
Or seen a film which begins with the final scene, then fills in how the character got to that point, to that state of mind when we first meet him.
Yes there is a darkness that hangs over it, yet that is the story.

Plus there will likely be some dark-levity in this chapter,
There is something to be said about a guy whose circumstances and own humanity are so unlikably grim and forsaken, he ends up having to transfer what's essentially his only "friend", into a cold sardonic, gunmetal assassin droid. :lol
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I am so here for these characters and series. And I know exactly where it ends.:wink1:
 
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Plus there will likely be some dark-levity in this chapter,
There is something to be said about a guy whose circumstances and own humanity are so unlikably grim and forsaken, he ends up having to transfer what's essentially his only "friend", into a cold sardonic, gunmetal assassin droid. :lol

I am so here for these characters and series. And I know exactly where it ends.:wink1:
For me it's refreshing to be looking forward to a series that is so perfectly done, with such amazing writing, with characters I want an entire line-up of....

as opposed to: "oh, he/she/they're dead. Who was that again...oh, look, a naked wet guy. Next up there's a girl who takes her clothes off to escape danger for no reason whatsoever, especially when the burning ship is dropping cinders on you. WTF the Force doesn't work like that...wasn't that a line from Return of the Jedi? Can't these people do anything original? Man, that speech blew...." etc.

There will never be anything, ever again, as perfect as Andor. :monkey3
 
I tried to rewatch season one and I just couldn't.

It's sooooo. Dreadfully. Borrrrrrring.

The prison stuff was amazing. I re-watched all of that and it was as incredible as I remembered it.

The rest does nothing for me. Even the heist scenes weren't that exciting.

The Mon Mothma scenes are sleep-inducing.
 
For me it's refreshing to be looking forward to a series that is so perfectly done, with such amazing writing, with characters I want an entire line-up of....

as opposed to: "oh, he/she/they're dead. Who was that again...oh, look, a naked wet guy. Next up there's a girl who takes her clothes off to escape danger for no reason whatsoever, especially when the burning ship is dropping cinders on you. WTF the Force doesn't work like that...wasn't that a line from Return of the Jedi? Can't these people do anything original? Man, that speech blew...." etc.

There will never be anything, ever again, as perfect as Andor. :monkey3

But is it moist? :unsure:


Andor may be worthy content, but there are other shows with greater assets.

Just ask Chopper...

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I tried to rewatch season one and I just couldn't.

It's sooooo. Dreadfully. Borrrrrrring.

The prison stuff was amazing. I re-watched all of that and it was as incredible as I remembered it.

The rest does nothing for me. Even the heist scenes weren't that exciting.

The Mon Mothma scenes are sleep-inducing.
I find it fascinating that you found it to be boring. It's the best thing Star Wars has ever made.

Everything pays off if you pay attention and invest in the characters. So Cassian's escape in episode 3 feels amazing if you are invested in his character.

The heist is the same if you cared about each of the heist team.
 
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I tried to rewatch season one and I just couldn't.

It's sooooo. Dreadfully. Borrrrrrring.

The prison stuff was amazing. I re-watched all of that and it was as incredible as I remembered it.

The rest does nothing for me. Even the heist scenes weren't that exciting.

The Mon Mothma scenes are sleep-inducing.
Yeah, I think it's fascinating too, when to me can't think of any other word about the performances than "exquisite". Every voice nuance, every subtle expression from every single cast member.

Even the interaction where Cassian is told about Biggs - the guy telling him kind of catches his breath, like he REALLY doesn't wanna deliver the bad news, and the way Cassian's voice drops. Mon Mothma is absolute perfection. Holy *&^ this show lets actors and actresses BECOME, not just "act". Even the expression on the Aldhani tribal leader you can tell he thinks the Imperials are just d*&^s. IMO this show is like a masterclass for actors/actresses.

Course it helps that the actors/actresses aren't spouting dribble. I still feel bad for Lee Jung-jae who gamely gave a lot for the series that Shall Not Be Named. But was rolled over by the power of the mmmmaaaaaannnnny. :monkey3
 
Don't worry. Lee Jung-jae survived that atrocity and will be in Squid Game season 2 next week.

He and Manny Jacinto were good in that show, but my God overall it's woeful.
I felt for the man. Mercifully English wasn't his first language, so maybe he missed a lot of the commentary online.

And it'll be even more merciful if someone who comes from a country saturated with pre-teens who can actually dance, that he never saw the jiggling vid where something something was whispered. Dunno what Amandla was saying, maybe it was insulting the audience or her nana's secret recipe for corn muffins.

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Meanwhile suspect I'll be poor next year stacking up POs for figs. Plus I like Gentle Giant's SW busts - managed to order Jyn Erso this year. I need the collection. But maybe it will be OK, I just got 3 delay notices in today, including my Dewback.
 
Racist backlash maybe from a handful of aholes... Most just called out the Acolyte for what it was. A really badly written and directed show.

The Acolyte was DOG :poop:

If the same show that aired was made with 100% white male writers, cast, crew, production, it still would've been DOG :poop:

A coven of all white human male gay warlocks living alone on a world and creating thread babies while chanting and singing would have been just as badly received by the awful fans.... :lol
 
Nobody sets out to make something bad. So much time, work, effort, and money goes into making a tv series or movie. It’s just unfortunate that they were so out of touch with the core audience they didn’t see that the Acolyte wouldn’t do well. Star Wars can be different than what has come before. It may even be essential to it surviving. That doesn’t mean they need to rewrite what we’ve known and try change core things about the universe.

Andor is building on what has come before it and is enhancing it. Many didn’t think Rogue One was needed but it turned out to be one of the better films in the saga. It didn’t try to change A New Hope by making think we didn’t understand it before. It enhanced A New Hope by making us appreciate the effort that went into getting those plans and solving some long criticisms about the exhaust port flaw. It made Star Wars better. If they can keep the mindset of enhancing the universe rather than trying to redefine it, they still might be able to save it. At least Andor in good hands.
 
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