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Absolutely destroys the Inart version, but it was just a custom sculpt bought so...

A lot. From a technical point of view the film is shot, lit, colour corrected beautifully. Imagery is very well thought out, the play with lighting and the audiences perspective of Arthur's imagination based on visual cues is well thought out and established. Hildur Gudnadottirs score underpins...

That's... Weird though. Like, you'd go to an art gallery and look at a painting that's miserable and then walk out and say I'm never going to look at sad paintings again? I didn't like how it made me feel so it was a **** painting? You knew what the tone would be from watching the first one. I...

Well it is, but in your comment you used needing a tablet and not feeling uplifted or inspired by it, and avoiding films like it in the future because you don't like how they make you feel. So, was it also obvious that you would not walk out of the film feeling uplifted or inspired. If it was...

Everything that you've written there is a reflection of you as a person and not of the media. Otherwise you can apply that logic to a comedy, all it has done is made you laugh and given nothing else. In life there's bleakness and happiness, some films or media dwell on one and some the other...

Khev, don't give Philips ideas!

Ehh, not entirely. He's still the Joker, with a small t for the, because he's what inspires it. But he's clearly not THE JOKER. Batman was inspired by a bloody bat... I'm sure it's okay for another Joker more in line with Comic book Joker being inspired by a social outcast that caused anarchy...

META META META META. Yeah the film directly speaks of this. It would be dishonest and jarring if the first film promised and delivered a fully complete Joker. The audience in the film and outside of it were like hey, he just became Joker! Time to see some more violence and carnage and anarchy...

Why? They haven't, only this one has, that logic is arbitrary. In regards to what's the point, well, it's interesting? What's the point to make a story what if Superman landed in Russia? Fair, it might not be interesting to all, but at least to me that's far more interesting than here's an...

I just don't understand how you're onboard with the first one but not the second - well I do as far in as you viewed his arc as culminating at becoming the Joker. But... he's still that Joker in this film when the meds wear off. So my point is where the divide comes from the first portrayal...

Yeah he embraced the Joker moniker put on him in all the aspects that bought him at the end, and that's it. His arc was embracing another part of his Psyche that unlocked and manifested in the bathroom. This films arc is him coming to grips if that actually is him or a persona that is...

The mantle of Joker and the idea of it is also very much shown in the first one to be a response from Arthur's actions. Again, he only goes by the name because Murray called him a Joker. Arthur in the entirety of the first film is completely reactionary, The Joker as a character is completely...

The mental gymnastics of thinking Arthur got treated with borderline respect in the first film is absurd. At the end of the day the wedge that drives the split is people thinking he's The Joker or was supposed to be the Joker or was promised to become the Joker. Everyone watched the first...

SIDESHOW FREAKS NAKED PILLOW FIGHT!

Crows, imagine with me for one second, where an artistic person has an idea that they love, and they hope other people love it too... Imagine... Imagine all the people. Now please welcome Gal Gadot:

Nick, I can't wait until JND 1/6 Joker comes out because we gonna be liking each other's posts like no bodies business, it's gonna be us against the world, especially Di Fabio, but for now, right at this moment, you're my mortal enemy.

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick! Think about ittttttttt. Mon Ami, s'il vous plait!

Hmm... Do you genuinely think he made this film out of spite? Are you regurgitating what other people are thinking and saying because you actually believe it? Have you seen, I think it's Vanity, his scene breakdowns of both the first film and this? He speaks of them both in a similar manner...

Hey, hey! Nobody likes people using French words mon copain!

Why should Nolan's want be respected, I don't understand? He didn't create the Joker character. Comic book versions of the character have a Chelsea smile. Although I would have preferred if the ending went in focus to the new Jokor tattooing damoged on his chin.