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to be honest, he is just about in scale if you have a 1/4 Spider-man collection, and he want a comic carnage. If I collected 1/4 scale, I would be much more tempted to pick this guy up, especially with his tentacles and everything flailing around.
 
Venom has always been goofy and funny for as long as I've known, I dunno why people think he isn't, it's not a new thing with the movies.

Well, both Venom and Carnage have their moments of situational insight and sarcasm, true but in no way were they ever played for laughs. They both know that what's being done to them is anything but funny.

In fact Venom can actually be annoying. All this sturm und drang over Spidey and "innocence," the irony of some hulking half-human pile of alien DNA wailing about innocence always made me want to just smack him one. No wonder Carnage finds him annoying, imagine sharing a prison cell with Brock's whiny ***! Who wouldnt come out of that ready to kill?! And Carnage is just a giant Freudian Id running loose, everyone's worst impulses made flesh. Its fun to watch.
 
Nah I just don’t mess around when it comes to Spider-Man characters. They can do all they want to some of zlisters in the mcu but when it comes to X-men and Spider-Man I do t like them taking lots of liberties.
I feel you. Everyone has their favourites, and we are a bit hypocritical when it comes to that. I don't care if they race/gender/etc-swap Shocker or Bullseye, but their fans would get up in arms about that the same way I'd get about my faves. It's natural, but that's the name of the game so might as well hope yours aren't the ones that get swapped.

Honestly, the worst part is that they're so unoriginal with all the swaps. Take Domino. She's not just white, she's chalk white. And she has the pitch black mark on her eye, which makes her look like, drum-roll... a domino. They raceswapped her, but they could've still salvaged the design by inverting the colours. Paint her pitch black with a chalk white mark. But hey, why bother with all that? The best I can say is that Zazie Beets was actually not bad as Neena, had a good ol' form fitting costume and looked good. I actually do hope she jumps ship in the MCU as Storm. Which brings us to the worst offsense of all these swaps; they choose the frumpiest women. X-Men is carried in part because of its *** appeal. But whereas the men continue being hunks (I guess Shang-Chi was the equalizer; Leung's older than the guy by a decade and looks ten times better), we get castings like Tessa Thompson, Akwafina or Fungus Larson (no, the pushup dress doesn't change my opinion). I doubt we'll see a hot Storm or Emma, and all the Xir-Persons will look like tacticool rejects from a [current day] AAA videogame that gets forgotten a month after its release. I wouldn't expect to see Emma dressed up in a dominatrix bustier and office jacket, or Psylocke/Kwanon to have a sleek ninja outfit. We'll get a couple of 40 YOs cosplaying around loose uniforms and that'll be it. I'm not even a swimsuit kind of guy, it's got more to do with the body type and the design of the outfit. I want to see beautiful and built people portray super-heroes, how hard is that?

After all these years, Marvel wise, except for some exceptions here and there (like Punisher & MK from the Streets, Iron Man from the Capes and so on) F4 (which I count under Cosmic, same as Strange and all the other Sorcerers) and X-Men are my core and they're the ones I was really looking forward to owning in this scale (I went through an X-Men hate phase due to how the IP was used and its fanbase, but it's passed). However, between the Xer-Myn comments, the FF being used as Benneton ad, Namor being cast as a short middle aged guy (and Namora as a frumpy middle aged woman), Black Panther being written off, and Strange being turned into a supporting character in his own movie, what the Hell do I have to look forward to? I'm half expecting Captain Britain to be turned into Captain Carter, Brian to be an old guy with a mustache who dies after 10 minutes of screentime, and Betsy to be his half-sister who's Japanese instead of them doing Kwanon and Bets as separate characters.

Anyway, as for this figure, it does look impressive, but it being all mold turns me off. These things cost a lot of cash and when there's no fabric, facial likeness, all that jazz, my excitement goes down bit by bit. Still, I was never going to buy it as I've sore off any Symbiote characters. Spider-Man, like Batman, is a character that I have some slight nostalgia for, enough to get a few Omnis and some figures, but only of the very core cast. My Spider-Shelf will just be a Tobey-Man, Ock & Goblin posed together, plus a 2099 if they ever make a Terry Batman so that I can have them displayed as a pair, and my one-off wish, a SpOck. Still, I hope it comes out good and people enjoy it as much as they seem to enjoy the Venom figure. Even in the very brightly lit pictures it looks like a beast and the details pop; you can't mistake that for a cheap toy. I just don't know if it's half a grand worth of greatness...
 
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I'm fine with the scale. Instant order.

I think the fact that they included the Tom Hardy head means that there's no incoming White Spider that's been shared with Hot Toys from Marvel or Sony.
Yes them including that half Venom/Tom Hardy sculpt just further indicates that they won't be doing another Venom figure, which makes sense since there's nothing more they can add to him than the first figure.

I don't think we're gonna see another Venom figure from Hot Toys until Spider-Man 2 PS5 game but that's 2 years away let alone getting an announcement from them is a gamble as it is.
 
here's hoping that the carnage torso doesnt fade like the iron man figures when they were made of softer materials. why is the torso a different shade of red than the arms and legs?
 
here's hoping that the carnage torso doesnt fade like the iron man figures when they were made of softer materials. why is the torso a different shade of red than the arms and legs?
I don't think it's a different shade. Looks like the torso just has more of a black wash on it due to all the black veins running through it compared to the legs and arms.

Also a good thing with this figure is that you can display it without the tongue attached so that it's closer to how he looks in the comics.

Can also get the teeths painted black since some people really wanted that.

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$500 is one expensive action figure. While Carnage and Venom are full body sculpts, I'd still venture that HT's margins on these are insane. But it will be a year and a half coming. I still need to pick up Venom at some point. Something about it doesn't sit quite right with me.
 
wont it look weird with a peg inside the mouth without the tongue attached?
not sure if i should pull the trigger on venom since the
post credit scene shows spider man is gonna meet venom soon, so he will get the spider symbol
 
I'm fine with the scale. Instant order.

I think the fact that they included the Tom Hardy head means that there's no incoming White Spider that's been shared with Hot Toys from Marvel or Sony.
If White Spider is going to happen in a movie it probably won't appear for another couple years, whenever the next appropriate movie appearance happens (as far as I'm aware it doesn't happen in venom2). And then the figure likely wouldn't release for another year or two after that.

So there's no reason for Hot Toys to wait up now for a speculative figure that is potentially four, five years off. Doesn't mean it will never happen (I think it probably will), just that it isn't happening any time soon. That's just how things line up.

Majority of people won't even get their hands on the first Venom figure until early 2022, and that movie came out three years ago. So whether a white spider version is happening or not is almost irrelevant to the conversation, because by the time it finally (potentially) happens the deluxe Carnage will be old news.
 
If White Spider is going to happen in a movie it probably won't appear for another couple years, whenever the next appropriate movie appearance happens (as far as I'm aware it doesn't happen in venom2). And then the figure likely wouldn't release for another year or two after that.

So there's no reason for Hot Toys to wait up now for a speculative figure that is potentially four, five years off. Doesn't mean it will never happen (I think it probably will), just that it isn't happening any time soon. That's just how things line up.

Majority of people won't even get their hands on the first Venom figure until early 2022, and that movie came out three years ago. So whether a white spider version is happening or not is almost irrelevant to the conversation, because by the time it finally (potentially) happens the deluxe Carnage will be old news.
It could actually be sooner then that given what the end credits was.
 
Given that another Spider-Man movie won't happen for another 2-3 years, it's still something that's potentially 5-6 years away figure wise. Again, by then you would also have a gamble of Hot Toys doing the PS5 Venom.

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Well I mean No way Home is coming out this year. And judging by the after credits I have a feeling we might see Venom in that film and I don't mean because tom showed up on his TV it was what happens right before that gives it away. Still we won't know until December when that film arrives but your right we might not see a another figure in another 2-3 years. I actually would be so In for the Spider-man 2 version also that one might be Carnage price range I can imagine he is a beast in size just from that reveal. Lol
 
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