12 shot dead at movie theater

[hairlesswookiee]

LOL. it's called democracy you vote the Government out. This is the gun ho attitude I am talking about instead of thinking democracy first, the first thing that comes to mind is shooting stuff.

Lol. If your government takes away your right to vote how do you vote them out? And it's Gung-ho attitude, not gun ho.

 

[RonDMC]

My attitude extends to the whole world.

And the discussion is not about what sacrifices other countries have made. If we are going to change the subject to that, it'll be a short discussion as all I will say is that I know other countries are sacrificing as well.

But those countries are not getting attacked for gun ownership. The U.S. is. And our gun laws and involvement in worldwide conflict are rediculously being cross-associated. And how ridiculous that cross-association is can be illustrated in your comment that even with your Country's more strict gun laws, Australia has been in every conflict that the U.S. has.

And we can also go on and on about the benefit of each conflict and we can pick at the disappointments of each. But at the end of the day...I have never, in 47 years, seen anyone bring up an argument to show that the overall effort did not bring benefit. So, to me, the idea that every confict since WWII has been a waste of time, is invalid.

You are blurring the line between the Military and civilians. I have no issue at all with the Military owning the biggest, badass equipment money can buy because our sovereignty depends on it. I only started on wars etc. because you started on how America has been god’s gift to the world and how dare anyone tell us about gun control after what we have done for everyone blah blah blah. I was simply pointing out that besides your contribution to WW2 (and the only reason you got involved was because Pearl Harbor was bombed) you have done nothing for us and actually been a burden.

People in this thread go on about history etc. but the majority wouldn't have a clue what going on outside your borders.

 

[RonDMC]

Lol. If your government takes away your right to vote how do you vote them out? And it's Gung-ho attitude, not gun ho.

It's either, you are correct the proper english is gung-ho but you can slang it to gun ho. Oh and it's laugh out loud NOT LOL. No need to try and get smart we are on a figures forum here I am not writing an essay.

Gun ho:

A war term used to describe somone who is very excited

 

[hairlesswookiee]

It's either, you are correct the proper english is gung-ho but you can slang it to gun ho. Oh and it's laugh out loud NOT LOL. No need to try and get smart we are on a figures forum here I am not writing an essay.

Gun ho:

A war term used to describe somone who is very excited

Using your previous site for reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=gun+ho&go=Go

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gung-ho

 

[RonDMC]

Using your previous site for reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=gun+ho&go=Go

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gung-ho

As you have stated in the past these sites are not reputable.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

As you have stated in the past these sites are not reputable.

But if it favored your responses it is.

 

[thenammagazine]

It's either, but you are correct. The proper English is gung-ho, but you can use slang terminology and type it as gun ho. Oh, and it's laugh out loud NOT LOL. There's no need to try and act smart when we are on a figures forum here. I am not writing an essay.

Gun ho:

A war term used to describe somone who is very excited

https://www.creativedu.com/eng/shopping.asp​

They ship to AU. If you're going to play that card, it's best to make sure your own ass is covered first.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Yet by some kind of magic the UK still has some of the highest crime rates. Go figure!

and statistics for shootings?

 

[thenammagazine]

and statistics for shootings?

You really wouldn't even need statistics for "shootings." If there's still a high crime rate in the UK despite the stringent gun control laws, it proves those laws are ineffective.

 

[DarthNeil]

Just as a side note, while it was 12 killed and 58 injured (or has that number changed?) in Aurora, on Monday there were 82 people killed and 180 wounded in car bombs and road side explosives in Iraq.

It's the world we live in.

 

[RonDMC]

But if it favored your responses it is.

What is this an echo of me 5 posts back? The cowboys already stated it's not a reputable source so why should I see it that way?

 

[hairlesswookiee]

What is this an echo of me 5 posts back? The cowboys already stated it's not a reputable source so why should I see it that way?

That's why I included "using your previous site."

 

[thenammagazine]

All this UK/EU vs. America BS has me thinking. I wonder how far the London riots would've gotten of gun control laws were similar to those of the U.S. I bet rioters would've been considerably more cautious kicking in doors and raiding businesses if there was a fear of running into the barrel of a gun.

 

[RonDMC]

and statistics for shootings?

I wouldn't bother if the statistics didn't go the way of the cowboys it wouldn't be accurate or reputable. It's only accurate when it suits them.

Per 100,000

United States 4.8
UK 1.23
AUS 1.16

Four times the homicide rate of our countries with strict gun laws, but if they want to be under the illusion that guns make them safer, let them. The statistic speak for themselves.

 

[BadMoon]

and statistics for shootings?

I believe 20% of all murders in the UK were committed with a firearm. Good enough?

What about Cumbria? I believe 12 people were killed by a lunatic with guns. How ever did he got those? I will tell you. He got them because he was determined to kill a bunch of people. Amazing how a lunatic can get a weapon with your so called "gun control".

 

[hairlesswookiee]

I wouldn't bother if the statistics didn't go the way of the cowboys it wouldn't be accurate or reputable. It's only accurate when it suits them.

Per 100,000

United States 4.8
UK 1.23
AUS 1.16

Four times the homicide rate of our countries with strict gun laws, but if they want to be under the illusion that guns make them safer, let them. The statistic speak for themselves.

 

[Darth Cruel]

You are blurring the line between the Military and civilians. I have no issue at all with the Military owning the biggest, badass equipment money can buy because our sovereignty depends on it. I only started on wars etc. because you started on how America has been god’s gift to the world and how dare anyone tell us about gun control after what we have done for everyone blah blah blah. I was simply pointing out that besides your contribution to WW2 (and the only reason you got involved was because Pearl Harbor was bombed) you have done nothing for us and actually been a burden.

People in this thread go on about history etc. but the majority wouldn't have a clue what going on outside your borders.

Oh, no. I am very, very clearly addressing them as separate issues. Re-read my posts. And whether we know what is going on outside our borders is a weak way to try to deflect your lack of ability to support your point. And based on the opinions, accusations and support information you have posted on this topic, I can say that you suffer the same ignorance...but the difference is that you chose to lash out at the gun ownership and the "Cowboy" attitude of the U.S. and it now seems that you don't really understand it very well. Oh...and didn't you say that exact thing?

There are a few fringe ideas that I have had as well and I am interested to bring them up. But I would like to get the primary issues resolved first.

The topic was not "what has Australia done for the world" the topic was "The U.S. is a horrible place because they can own powerful guns and they are "Cowboys" (to paraphrase).

You are the one who, like everyone else I have ever seen try to agrue the same points, keeps dragging in fringe and invalid information.

I am not trying to be a jerk to you. But I have to be honest, I get frustrated with hearing this same accusation time and time again and hearing the people making it using the same fringe or invalid information to try to support their opinion.

If you don't like the conditions. Just say I don't like the conditions and maybe say why you don't.

 

[DarthNeil]

Severe warning for multiple use of same GIF to demonstrate disillusionment with countering argument.

Australian GIF to cleanse the palette.

 

[The Ween]

At the end of the day, I really think everyone on both sides is missing the point. I can not see why everyone feels that they need to bring up security and such arguments.

I will say this. If Canada wants to fear guns and allow their government the authority to restrict them...that is their right.

But this is not Canada. This is the United States. This Nation was founded with the intent to not allow the Governemnt to do that. That is all that is important. Stopping these clowns from their murderous rampages is a separate issue and should not be argued with gun control. Arguing it with gun control makes both sides sound desparate to prove an unprovable point. It is a smoke screen to cover the basic issue...and that again is the fact that our Constitution specifically denies that authority to our government. That is how our forefathers wanted it, and I see nothing to indicate a change to that mindset.

No other argument is valid. The 2nd Ammendment of our Constitution is the only point we need on our side.

And on a different subject...I am perfectly OK with the tough "Cowboy" image that we in the United States project to the world. It is not a bad thing nor am I insulted by those who toss the term around with the intent of offending U.S. citizens. I see those people as weak and ignorant whether their intentions are good or not. And even with the haters in Canada...the Cowboys got your back if it comes to it. We have been wiping the noses of so many other countries for so long that I can look back on that and scoff at the U.S. haters. And I will admit that there are absolutely consequences that come with our way of life . But the benefit that our Cowboy attitude has given the world for so long far outweighs those consequences even now in the light of this tragedy.

And cowboys have nice ***** because they don't wear their pants to their knees!

 

[averagejo]

I read this this morning 

Theater Owners Begin Donation Drive for Aurora Shooting Victims

NATO President and CEO John Fithian sent a letter to exhibitors announcing a partnership with Colorado Gov. Hickenlooper and Community First Foundation.

The movie theater community is rallying to support the victims of last week's mass shooting at an Aurora, Colorado screening of The Dark Knight Rises.
With Warner Bros. already planning a "substantial" donation to those suffering from the massacre, which left 12 dead and 58 more injured, National Association of Theater Owners President and CEO John Fithian issued a letter to exhibitors across the country, directing their generosity to a 501(c) (3) charity, The Aurora Victim Relief Fund, which was founded by Gov. John Hickenlooper and the Community First Foundation.
"Community First Foundation is a longstanding, trusted community foundation that will direct your gifts to the nonprofit organizations serving those affected," Fithian wrote. "This fund will only be used to meet the immediate and long-term needs of victims, their families and the broad needs of those affected in the community."

from THR