Boy kills brother over dessert

[Anzik]

https://www.sfchroniclemarketplace.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/10/03/national/a163307D65.DTL

Maybe its me, but the report says they do not know what type of dessert it was, like that should have some bearing!
Does that mean you cannot murder over jello but chocolate cake is understandable?

 

[Deadly Dagger]

Sad....I blame the parents.

 

[HAPPYBOY]

Does that mean you cannot murder over jello but chocolate cake is understandable?

Nope, but chocolate ice cream is perfectly acceptable.

 

[Darthrazz]

It's a sad, sad , sad world that we are living in. I feel bad for both kids.

 

[El Roranous]

That is just insanely terrible. What is happening out there? This kid probably had some severe mental health issues.

 

[Darth Loki]

So he was affraid he'd be blamed for eating a dessert but thought it'd be OK to beat his brother to death

Something's not right about this story.

 

[pixletwin]

Tasteless. Sad. Wrong. That kid had some serious mental issues.. obviously.

 

[Shropt]

Is this the same kid who strangled his sister while playing Bioshock?

Seriously though, Supposedly the Mom was out at the time. WTH? My mom didn't leave me alone until I was 16!

 

[Shai]

Pie is good.

 

[Darthrazz]

Can you ever really find a blame for this? Is it the parents? Television? Society? Is it the kid that had a mental issue? Video games? All of the above?


I know that is going to sound corny but....

When I was growing up way back in the late seventies , early eighties, the internet (didn't exist)or video games weren't as much of a influence as they are today. Yet the cartoons that were on TV were pretty violent, Bugs Bunny, Tom & Jerry, yet somehow I knew that they were make believe, I never had the urge to blow someone's head off with a shotgun, or drop an anvil on somebody.

I think that this generation of children is exposed to a form of violence that my generation was not, when growing up. There are about a billion channels on TV, showing violent movies at all hours, the graphics of the violent video games are now so realistic, it's not like the old Commando video game, where the soldier fired slow moving bullets the size a golf ball and the killed soldier simply disappeared. Don't get me wrong, I love my Palysation games, but I think our kids are exposed to much more than we were and can become desensitized to to certain things.

My idol as a kid was my father, but my 13 year old niece idolizes people like Brittany Spears and Lindsey Lohan. These people are constantly jammed down our throats .Two days ago the top story on CNN.com was Brittany Spears losing custody of her babies...WHO CARES? Isn't there more important news? Are these the types of role models that we want our children to have, peoplethat get away with breaking any law from DUI's to Murder? Where are todays positive role models? Where are our family values? Where are we headed? Will our children wonder what color alert we are at before they board a flight?


I know that I and others kid around on the board, but this story really makes me sad. I became a father 2 years ago and I see the world in a different light, I want my daughter to grow up in a decent world that sadly might be more corrupt and worse than the one her father did.

That's it, I'm off my soapbox.

 

[MaulFan]

I don't think the problem lies in the viloence in pop culture, but more in the poor or even lack of parenting these days. I remember some of the things blamed for Columbine and I watched and listened to the same things and it's like hey, I don't want to blow people up. There are WAY too many parents these days who shouldn't be, and ther world has gotten to be so free with sexuality that it's gotten to extremely irresponsible levels, and while I admire people not getting abortions, we end up with parents who don't give a ****, look at the kids as a burden and then leave the TVs and the XBox to babysit instead of being a parent, and they don't monitor what the kids watches or plays so they're exposed to things at times when they can't distinguish right and wrong, real and fake.

 

[El Roranous]

I don't think the problem lies in the viloence in pop culture, but more in the poor or even lack of parenting these days. I remember some of the things blamed for Columbine and I watched and listened to the same things and it's like hey, I don't want to blow people up. There are WAY too many parents these days who shouldn't be, and ther world has gotten to be so free with sexuality that it's gotten to extremely irresponsible levels, and while I admire people not getting abortions, we end up with parents who don't give a ****, look at the kids as a burden and then leave the TVs and the XBox to babysit instead of being a parent, and they don't monitor what the kids watches or plays so they're exposed to things at times when they can't distinguish right and wrong, real and fake.

I don't think it's a matter of people getting free with there sexuality, just a result of lack of sexual education. If we had more education everywhere about pregnancy prevention and parents get over their prudish ways and let their children learn from sex ed programs (instead of complaining to principles) I bet we would see a lot less unwanted pregnancies. You would all probably be surprised how ignorant some of these kids are about birth control or any thing having to do with sex. Most kids are raised to be embarrassed and therefore they go forward in the sexual world without any help or guidance. Don't stop school sex ed programs, we need way more!

 

[MaulFan]

I wouldn't be surprised by ignorance, but having gone through college and all, I also know how many, with knowledge, still like to take their chances because they don't want to wear a condom or anything, and all the education in the world doesn't help when you have a drunken encounter either.

 

[pixletwin]

I don't think it's a matter of people getting free with there sexuality, just a result of lack of sexual education.

I think both irresponsible behavior and lack of education are to blame.

If we had more education everywhere about pregnancy prevention and parents get over their prudish ways and let their children learn from sex ed programs (instead of complaining to principles) I bet we would see a lot less unwanted pregnancies. You would all probably be surprised how ignorant some of these kids are about birth control or any thing having to do with sex. Most kids are raised to be embarrassed and therefore they go forward in the sexual world without any help or guidance. Don't stop school sex ed programs, we need way more!

I'll even go one better, iparents should be mature enough to talk to their kids about it instead of relying on the government to them about "the sess".

But all that aside, I'm not sure parental involvement is so much the issue with this kid as a chemical imbalance.

 

[Bannister]

I'll even go one better, iparents should be mature enough to talk to their kids about it instead of relying on the government to them about "the sess".

But all that aside, I'm not sure parental involvement is so much the issue with this kid as a chemical imbalance.

I think it is pretty clear this kid wasn't exactly all there.

 

[El Roranous]

You guys are right as well. A lot of people with knowledge do make stupid decisions. And Pix I think you are right as well, parents should be talking to their kids too in addition to all that they learn out in the real world.

 

[Voorhees27]

Can you ever really find a blame for this? Is it the parents? Television? Society? Is it the kid that had a mental issue? Video games? All of the above?


I know that is going to sound corny but....

When I was growing up way back in the late seventies , early eighties, the internet (didn't exist)or video games weren't as much of a influence as they are today. Yet the cartoons that were on TV were pretty violent, Bugs Bunny, Tom & Jerry, yet somehow I knew that they were make believe, I never had the urge to blow someone's head off with a shotgun, or drop an anvil on somebody.

I think that this generation of children is exposed to a form of violence that my generation was not, when growing up. There are about a billion channels on TV, showing violent movies at all hours, the graphics of the violent video games are now so realistic, it's not like the old Commando video game, where the soldier fired slow moving bullets the size a golf ball and the killed soldier simply disappeared. Don't get me wrong, I love my Palysation games, but I think our kids are exposed to much more than we were and can become desensitized to to certain things.

My idol as a kid was my father, but my 13 year old niece idolizes people like Brittany Spears and Lindsey Lohan. These people are constantly jammed down our throats .Two days ago the top story on CNN.com was Brittany Spears losing custody of her babies...WHO CARES? Isn't there more important news? Are these the types of role models that we want our children to have, peoplethat get away with breaking any law from DUI's to Murder? Where are todays positive role models? Where are our family values? Where are we headed? Will our children wonder what color alert we are at before they board a flight?


I know that I and others kid around on the board, but this story really makes me sad. I became a father 2 years ago and I see the world in a different light, I want my daughter to grow up in a decent world that sadly might be more corrupt and worse than the one her father did.

That's it, I'm off my soapbox.

I agree with you 110% man! You are dead on right about the shift of attention towards garbage on T.V. and other sources of distraction. My dad was and still is my hero, he and my older brother. What does this mean? We were a very close family, we didn't all run to our rooms and become anti-socials!

I am not specifically saying that a close family makes you exempt from problems or even hardship while growing up but I can guarantee you probably won't kill your little brother over desert.

I too feel real bad for this family, dying is dying but the way it happens just makes it that much more worse. There definetely is something wrong it our current position in society, is it video games, movies, music? Or does it exist at home?

 

[Vader AL]

i don't think everything bad that happens is a reflection upon society...in this case i think it was just an individual who was fkd up in the head. i mean i really can't blame the parents in this case because i can't remember my parents telling me not to kill my siblings. of course there could have been stuff going on that lead to this that the parents did/were doing though.

 

[pixletwin]

Yeah. I agree VaderAl... Likely it was a violent home coupled with mental issues.

In any case, it is just very very sad.

 

[Voorhees27]

Yeah. I agree VaderAl... Likely it was a violent home coupled with mental issues.

In any case, it is just very very sad.

Oh definetely it had to have been a violent home but i'm the kind of person that believes any answer to any problem usually lies right next to you.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree!