Fantastic Four reboot

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

FOX has more than earned the right to keep the properties they paid for that no one was doing anything with. They've made superior superhero films to Marvel Studios for the past 6 years or so (not including Winter Soldier as I haven't seen it yet).

I think Iron Man is the most well-made superhero film so far, but nothing else from Marvel Studios can compare to DoFP, First Class, X2, Spiderman 1 & 2, and the Dark Knight trilogy IMO.

 

[Darth Zangetsu]

I’ve come to accept thats just the way things going to be from now on. Everyone wants Marvel Studios to have their properties back, but in my opinion, Fox deserves the right to make Marvel films. Their X-Men franchise has been great since Singer returned, and they’ve arguably been making better movies.

I’m almost sure this will turn out to be a much better movie than everyone expects.

After the first 2 the bar is so low, that shouldn't be hard. I am rooting for this movie. Hope it does well.

 

[Khev]

Uh, yeah, if the movie isn't successful someone somewhere isn't going to be having much luck finding a job in the future. If you're wishing for the movie to not be a success, you're wishing for certain people to get screwed over.

Maybe you should start a charity called "Food for crew members of terrible big-budget Hollywood films." Sounds like a worthy cause to fight for. Because clearly if a movie bombs and people have a hard time finding work as a result its the fault of evil MCU fanboys. The world needs to know Lar'ja, spread the word.

What the hell dude. Like another studio is going to say, "oh you were a boom operator on that FF movie that bombed? Yeah, you suck and will never work in this town again."

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Maybe you should start a charity called "Food for crew members of terrible big-budget Hollywood films." Sounds like a worthy cause to fight for. Because clearly if a movie bombs and people have a hard time finding work as a result its the fault of evil MCU fanboys. The world needs to know Lar'ja, spread the word.

What the hell dude. Like another studio is going to say, "oh you were a boom operator on that FF movie that bombed? Yeah, you suck and will never work in this town again."

The writers, director, producers, whoever. I don't know how it all works, I'm not in "the biz". But it's silly to think that if a film is completely unsuccessful everyone involved is going to walk away unscathed and be given the same opportunity to work on a movie of this caliber in the future.

Once again, quality is a different story. There's a difference between terrible and unsuccessful. If the film is terrible whoever contributed to it being terrible should have a hard time finding better work in the future. This movie is so far off that no one knows if it will be bad or good. There haven't even been any trailers released yet.

 

[pturtle]

FOX has more than earned the right to keep the properties they paid for that no one was doing anything with. They've made superior superhero films to Marvel Studios for the past 6 years or so (not including Winter Soldier as I haven't seen it yet).

I think Iron Man is the most well-made superhero film so far, but nothing else from Marvel Studios can compare to DoFP, First Class, X2, Spiderman 1 & 2, and the Dark Knight trilogy IMO.

Yea, Iron Man 1 is my favorite movie Marvel Studies produced so far. I liked TWS as well, but the rest of the movies are just bad, or okay…in my opinion of course.

After the first 2 the bar is so low, that shouldn't be hard. I am rooting for this movie. Hope it does well.

Thats the one thing is has going for it, other than the talent behind the film.

 

[Anzik]

I don't think you understand the relationship between quality and success. If you have quality it will succeed. Of course there is a matter of taste but I don't find myself having multiple viewings of the X films, or the DK trilogy. To me they aren't as enjoyable and fun, which is what I look for in a CB movie.
I enjoyed DoFP but I won't say it's fantastic. I found many flaws in it.
But my desire to see FF back at MS has nothing to do with fanboyhood but more of a proven track record. I don't think everything Marvel Studios has done has been great, but I wouldn't say they have done a bad movie so far. FF and RotSS were bad. X3 was bad, XO:W was bad. I think FF would get treatment much more faithful to the comic from MS.
Also its silly to try and portray someone as heartless towards film industry workers. As a consumer you have a responsibility to the market to reward quality and punish failure with your hard earned dollars. If you go to a restaurant and the food sucks you don't go back because you worry about the busboy's future.

 

[pturtle]

I found Thor TDW, Iron Man 2 and Iron Man 3 to be bad movies. The Incredible Hulk, Thor, and Captain America TFA, are forgettable movies. The Avengers I thought was decent at best, but I know the majority thinks it’s amazing. Iron Man 1 and Cap TWS are the only really good Marvel movies that really try to be more than okay, I don’t think people will be talking about the rest years from now.

DOFP in my opinion was the best movie of the year, beating out TWS for the best superhero movie of the year so far and was financially and commercially more successful. Fox’s two bad X films don’t outweigh the good that Fox has produced, X2, FC and DOFP are almost on everyone’s top 10 list.

 

[CallMeTheDoctor]

I only would like MS to obtain their franchises back due to story. I mean I would love House of M, WWH, Civil War, but all need the essential characters like Scarlet Witch, Mr. Fantastic, Sue Storm.

I enjoy the Marvel movies because they do try and keep to important allusions on the books. Now I agree I liked FC and DoFP, but not out of the movie, it was pretty bad to me, but I enjoy watching people like McAvoy and Fassbender.

Now the MS ones are amazing either, but I can say most I enjoyed regardless as it is awesome to see such characters brought with great execution.

 

[Brainiac]

Did anyone read about Kate Mara's interview:

“I’ve never been a fan of comics, I’ve never actually read one. I was going to for this movie but the director said it wasn’t necessary. Well, actually he told us that we shouldn’t do it because the plot won’t be based on any history of anything already published. So I chose to follow his instructions. The one fact is I am a fan of comic book movies, so it’s very exciting to be part of a movie like this.”

it seems she is in this movie(as are most involved) to capitalize on the current trend of comic book movie popularity.......

as for the Director.. he doesnt seem to have much respect for the subject matter

 

[JorReno]

Trank is currently the biggest ****** on the CBM scene.

Chronicle is overrated.

 

[pturtle]

Did anyone read about Kate Mara's interview:

“I’ve never been a fan of comics, I’ve never actually read one. I was going to for this movie but the director said it wasn’t necessary. Well, actually he told us that we shouldn’t do it because the plot won’t be based on any history of anything already published. So I chose to follow his instructions. The one fact is I am a fan of comic book movies, so it’s very exciting to be part of a movie like this.”
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it seems she is in this movie(as are most involved) to capitalize on the current trend of comic book movie popularity.......

as for the Director.. he doesnt seem to have much respect for the subject matter

https://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-kate-mara-comic-books/

Although Fox has been planning the upcoming reboot of The Fantastic Four since 2009, the new franchise didn’t start gaining traction until Josh Trank (Chronicle) was hired to direct in 2012. Aside from the discussion of whether it’s too soon to reboot the characters, The Fantastic Four production has been rife with controversies. Between the casting choices (specifically Michael B. Jordan as the Human Torch), the script, and the manner in which Marvel has handled Fantastic Four, Fox’s upcoming superhero flick is no stranger to the online fan debate – in publications and comments sections alike.Most recently, the reboot’s very own Sue Storm/The Invisible Woman, Kate Mara, was at the center of a media maelstrom after a partial interview with Esquire Latinoamérica concerning Trank’s The Fantastic Four surfaced online yesterday.

Though Mara said many controversial things within the short interview – including admitting she’s not a fan of comics but rather comic book movies – the major takeaway was that Trank, along with co-writers Simon Kinberg (X-Men: Days of Future Past) and T.S. Nowlin (The Maze Runner), would not be pulling inspiration from the comics for their Fantastic Four reboot.

EW reached out to Mara’s representative for clarification of the quotes that circulated yesterday. The actress said she told the reporter from Esquire Latinoamérica that “the film is not based on one comic, but rather drawn from the entire canon.” The other major players involved with The Fantastic Four – Fox, Trank, Kinberg, and Nowlin – have remained silent on this particular issue.Mara’s amended comments about The Fantastic Four most likely fall more in line with what fans were expecting from Fox and Trank’s reboot. As our own Kofi Outlaw pointed out in his analysis of the Esquire Latinoamérica interview, Marvel’s Fantastic Four is not a financially successful comic book series.

But, while Trank may not be pulling a storyline directly from the not-so-popular comics, it also wouldn’t make sense to completely alienate the built-in fanbase (read: guaranteed ticket sales) for the upcoming film – no matter how few in number they may be.

So Mara’s clarification — essentially that the film will pick and choose from the Fantastic Four canon in order to (hopefully) make the best movie possible — makes a lot more sense and should give even F4 super fans hope.With so much comic book canon at their fingertips, few (if any) of the Marvel films – from Marvel Studios, Fox, and Sony – have stuck strictly to their source material. Whether these movies are successful (or not) because of, or in spite of, their deviation from the books is debatable, but it’s not a new practice in the least.

No matter how many rumors surface concerning the inspiration behind Trank’s Fantastic Four reboot, we won’t be able to judge the finished product until it hits theaters next year.

I believe she was misquoted.

They’re not drawing from one specific story , but a compilation of FF stories. Seems no different then every other superhero movie being made these days.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

Awesome - they should forget the actual name too.

Call it - Fantastic Farce.

 

[Brainiac]

I believe she was misquoted.

I believe thats damage control

 

[pturtle]

Thats possible for sure, but it really wouldn’t make sense if this didn’t draw from the comics at all.

 

[Brainiac]

Awesome - they should forget the actual name too.

Call it - Fantastic Farce.

sounds about right

 

[Khev]

Thats possible for sure, but it really wouldn’t make sense if this didn’t draw from the comics at all.

It wouldn't make sense true, but it WOULD be consistent with every other idiot decision they've made regarding this production so far.

 

[Biojex]

Did anyone read about Kate Mara's interview:

“I’ve never been a fan of comics, I’ve never actually read one. I was going to for this movie but the director said it wasn’t necessary. Well, actually he told us that we shouldn’t do it because the plot won’t be based on any history of anything already published. So I chose to follow his instructions. The one fact is I am a fan of comic book movies, so it’s very exciting to be part of a movie like this.”

it seems she is in this movie(as are most involved) to capitalize on the current trend of comic book movie popularity.......

as for the Director.. he doesnt seem to have much respect for the subject matter

So basically, this movie has no soul. Awesome.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

Maybe Gal Gadot & Vin Deisel should've been in this one, & then they could've called it The Fantastic & The Furious 4.

 

[Khev]

Director: "Don't do any research, we're not basing anything in this movie on the source material that fans love."

Actor: "Okay." *tells that to the press*

Actor: "Oh, um, I meant that we're not basing this movie on any one comic, but the entire series in general."

Okay, so WHY again should you NOT be conducting any research of any kind on the *series* then? If they're basing the movie on decades of stories and not just one, that would actually require more research, not less.

I love that this is going to come out the same summer as Age of Ultron and X:Apocalypse.

 

[karamazov80]

That follow-up comment definitely feels like damage control. I'm not shocked that the director isn't interesting in sticking to the comics, but it is disappointing. The FF comics had some really great runs, introduced several of the most important characters and themes in the Marvel U (including all the "galactic" stuff that Marvel Studios is taking advantage of now), and really, alongside Spider-Man, was among the best Marvel had at examining the humanity of super heroes. But this movie will probably be mediocre, forgettable tripe.