Han and Mulder, separated at birth?

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JustinLuck

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Nothing against Matt Falls. He did an AWESOME job on Luke and he is obviously a very talented artist. But I was browsing Sideshow's website tonight and couldn't help but notice that both Han and Mulder suffer from the swollen mannequin look. It's most likely the paint jobs that kill any realism.
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Buttmunch said:
At the sculpting panel at SDCC, Mat Falls addressed this to a degree. He said that a sculpt will look much better when they first sculpt it. There sculpt is then thinned out and sometimes almosted ruined in production. It is not there fault, but the production's fault. I too was on of those that thought "How can he do Luke so well and mess up on Han?" Well he didn't. Han looks MUCH better in person. It just doesnt' photograph well. I think most people will be pleased by Han when he arrives.

To Mat Falls, if you are reading. At SDCC, you said that the message boards are very tempting to join. Please join us. You can let us better understand what happens to a sculpt. I always thought it was the sculpter's fault when a piece didn't look good. Now because you explaned it at SDCC, I realize it is not the sculpter's fault at all. So please join us and enlighten us. We just don't know what is the sculpter's fault and what is not if they don't let us know. I know if you are a member, others will probably try to just give positive criticsim instead of just bashing. We just don't understand what you guys go through until you tell us. So tell us, we'll understand. :D

It would be great if Mat joined us. Mat join us!
 
Yeah, what I said. I have both Mulders and neither look that bad. The first suffered from a bit of Anakin lips, but that is not the sculpt's fault at all. I saw Han at SDCC and he looks MUCh better than any pic I've seen of him. I do see the similarities though.
 
The thing is, the same arguments arise and are quashed, only to have new members join and raise the same problems. That is just part of being on a board.

We have sculptors as members already, and someone like Mat doesn't just have sculpting duties to perform. Artists can be temperamental, especially when their work gets bashed, depending on their mood at the time. At least they are able to read comments, some of which would take more than a thick hide to dismiss. From a professional point of view, they can't always be free to post their thoughts and feelings, without compromising themselves, or who they happen to be working for. It would be great if Mat joined, and he is most welcome to. He has to fight his propensity in the interest of Sideshow, for fear of showing favouritism to one board over another. There can be a backlash, that isn't worth the trouble, for all parties concerned.

Luckily Dave is able to address most of our concerns, or if not, others are able to do the job, in an adequate manner. It is alot of fun being a member and posting comments and having discussions. I would imagine, if Mat joined, the board would become a forum of questions and answers, stifling a fair bit of the discussion. A bit of bashing, while uncalled for, for the most part, can raise points of interest, that can be positive, if taken in the correct light.

To address JustinLuck. We have seen numerous times when a sculpt falls below par, aside from the production process, mostly due to the paint applications. All I can think of there, is for Sideshow to release a limited masters exclusive run, sometime in the future, if it is pheasable, where a sculpt might be hand painted individually by a master painter. Where the sculpt can be shown at its best, for a premium price. I personally don't have the money for such purchases, but with Hot Toys and the like becoming more popular, there would be a number of people that could afford such an extravagance.
 
Interesting post, Creech. And I have to agree with you for the most part, but I did have to laugh at the 'temperamental artist' comment. I'm an artist myself and I'm very familiar with criticism. As an artist your work is constantly critiqued. Some of it can be quite brutal. But after a while you use it. It helps you to grow as an artist. I would hope that Mat, being the professional that he is, wouldn't have his feelings hurt by the ravings of a bunch of fanatics. But I also don't think he has to defend himself for the work that he does.
 
Good stuff Batty. I don't mind you having a giggle. I say alot of silly things and Mat is a professional, as you say, and his body of work speaks for itself. I certainly wont stop him joining. The decision is totally his.

Gees, I hope he doesn't mind me being a Freak. :lol
 
Batty said:
Interesting post, Creech. And I have to agree with you for the most part, but I did have to laugh at the 'temperamental artist' comment. I'm an artist myself and I'm very familiar with criticism. As an artist your work is constantly critiqued. Some of it can be quite brutal. But after a while you use it. It helps you to grow as an artist.
Youre right on the money Batty. Being an artist too, as you mature you learn to use criticism as a tool in a positive way and not in a negative way. Especially if its coming from the client. Your opinion isnt always going to match your client's, so suck it up and please the client 1st and yourself 2nd. Theyre paying you to do this after all.
But so many artists can be such lil *****es :D
 
Batty said:
Interesting post, Creech. And I have to agree with you for the most part, but I did have to laugh at the 'temperamental artist' comment. I'm an artist myself and I'm very familiar with criticism. As an artist your work is constantly critiqued. Some of it can be quite brutal. But after a while you use it. It helps you to grow as an artist. I would hope that Mat, being the professional that he is, wouldn't have his feelings hurt by the ravings of a bunch of fanatics. But I also don't think he has to defend himself for the work that he does.


I'm an artist too and when your audience tells you something and it becomes a consensus you listen and adjust or fail and disappoint. This discussion about the Han sculpt started the day of the pre-order and continued for months. There was a well established consensus/constructive criticism to improve this iconic figure since the first proto pics were released.

Let's see what they did if anything, I hope they won't disappoint...
 
" How many artists we got on this ship anyway?!"




"I knew it...I'm surrounded by artists. Keep painting/sculpting, artists!!!"
 
Customikey said:
" How many artists we got on this ship anyway?!"




"I knew it...I'm surrounded by artists. Keep painting/sculpting, artists!!!"

I'm not that kind of artist professionally, but some of you guys sure look to be, cheers to artistry and artisans. And no, I am definitely NOT a performance Artist! :D
 
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creecher said:
All I can think of there, is for Sideshow to release a limited masters exclusive run, sometime in the future, if it is pheasable, where a sculpt might be hand painted individually by a master painter. Where the sculpt can be shown at its best, for a premium price.

That is actually a really good idea creecher...And one Sideshow should look into..But like you said the price of these would be well above what we are used to paying, even for HT figures. But still, this would be a very cool for Sideshow to do. They released a catalog for $100 with a bunch of sigs and that sold out, so why not give it a try.
 
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