20 minutes is a big ask for something like this. It could have been way, way worse. I think that's why I thought it was good. I was expecting way worse.
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (June 30th, 2023)
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The Angry Joe reviews just dropped today and I’m so tempted to watch them. You can usually tell when he’s going to go nuclear by his thumbnails 
To me tarkin looked like a cartoon… I think Luke was a bit better but man still creepy and weird. This is SO much better.
So it’s nice to see it all improving, having said that though I’ve still got mixed feelings on the whole de aging thing.
But unlike tarkin this person is alive, so I’m on with it and if it is passable like this is it’s even kind of cool IMO.
If the person is dead or does not give their personal consent it’s beyond wrong IMO.
I know Meta probably owns all our faces anyways… but it’s so sad to think Disney can own your face and make money off it long after you’ve passed.
So it’s nice to see it all improving, having said that though I’ve still got mixed feelings on the whole de aging thing.
But unlike tarkin this person is alive, so I’m on with it and if it is passable like this is it’s even kind of cool IMO.
If the person is dead or does not give their personal consent it’s beyond wrong IMO.
I know Meta probably owns all our faces anyways… but it’s so sad to think Disney can own your face and make money off it long after you’ve passed.
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Sorry (old) man!
Joking aside though I am sorry - I'm not here to dampen anyone's spirits.
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Completely agree, I'm A-OKAY with de-aging living actors with their consent, its just another form of special effects - if we can make Mark Ruffolo green and give the actors from 300 fake abs then we can give people a digital facelift!
What I dont agree with is digital necromancy - its wrong, they cant consent and it reduces people into commodities - can't approve of it.
Only scenario where it might be okay is if people given their explicit, informed, detailed and specific consent on the use of their likeness as certain characters in certain films after their death and their family (or a charity of their choice) is paid their usual fees.
I'm pretty sure I will love the opening sequence and de-aging.
It's the rest of the movie that I think I will grow to hate over the remaining two hours plus in running time.
It's the rest of the movie that I think I will grow to hate over the remaining two hours plus in running time.
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If its any consolation I just text my brother about the de-aging and he said its definitely better than Tarkin or Mando Luke Skywalker.
I'm doomed Sunday.
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I can tell you this; my kids are 10 and 6 and have zero interest in anything Indiana Jones and I’ve truly tried; the only came to to see it with me for soda and popcorn. I think that plus how terrible KotCS is why this movie won’t do good box office numbers. Half the people who might see this in theater are probably just going to pirate it as well.
I really didn’t find this movie boring at all and Helena was def no Mary Sue. I will say this movie does nothings extraordinary, but I wasn’t expecting it to. I don’t know why anyone would expect groundbreaking cinema for the fifth installment of a franchise that really only people born before 1990 may have an affinity for.
I’ll take this as a proper closing to right the mistake of that horror show we called Indy 4. I think if you're looking for anything more than that, you’re just setting yourself up for disappointment. Raiders, ToD and Crusade still reign supreme, but this does the job for me to set Indy off into the sunset. You’re not wrong if you disagree, but I hope anyone who hasn’t seen it yet goes in with an open mind.
I really didn’t find this movie boring at all and Helena was def no Mary Sue. I will say this movie does nothings extraordinary, but I wasn’t expecting it to. I don’t know why anyone would expect groundbreaking cinema for the fifth installment of a franchise that really only people born before 1990 may have an affinity for.
I’ll take this as a proper closing to right the mistake of that horror show we called Indy 4. I think if you're looking for anything more than that, you’re just setting yourself up for disappointment. Raiders, ToD and Crusade still reign supreme, but this does the job for me to set Indy off into the sunset. You’re not wrong if you disagree, but I hope anyone who hasn’t seen it yet goes in with an open mind.
I think you might kind of enjoy it Wor. But I’m anxiously awaiting your opinion too haha
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The Angry Joe reviews just dropped today and I’m so tempted to watch them. You can usually tell when he’s going to go nuclear by his thumbnails
I have no idea who this man is and yet I feel like I know exactly what he will say (but maybe I am being harsh - maybe he is alright).
I have a friend (who is also into movies) recommend 'The Critical Drinker' to me a little while back, and I watched a few of his videos in a row and while I found some of his criticism valid and his delivery funny, it became very clear what his political views were and what message he was trying to broadcast (in spite of his own vitriol at movies spreading 'the message') and I am just soooo sick of these rage-baity Youtubers who promote themselves as free thinkers yet seem to exist in their own echo chambers. Don't get me wrong on some things they get it right, there is plenty to criticize in modern cinema and I found Drinker's opinions on movies themselves (rather than thinly veiled attacks on the "politics" of the movie's he's reviewing) to be worth a listen... but I cannot stand when people unironically use the word woke, instantly call any main female character a mary sue (dont get me wrong they do happen and Disney is particularly prone to them in recent years) and basically try to hide their thinly veiled vitriol under critical analysis.
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Well I've stayed out of the thread for close to a month now to avoid spoilers.It does looks fun! What can I say, even though every single one has been progressively worse than the first (none were ever going to match it), and I would have been more than happy if they stopped at Last Crusade, this character will always pull me back in.
Definitely giving the old man a chance for one last ride.
That old Rhys-Davies, and now old Banderas, are there cheering him on, makes it even better.
My last still hopeful post above^, based on one of the last trailers was from May. Havn't since read any spoilers, comments or reviews going in.
Movie was entertaining, but not great, thrilling ride in some parts, dragged in others, rickety old Ford playing rickety old Jones, was about what I expected. Actually fun, and always seemed true to the character.
I liked the McGufin device that ropes him into one last adventure, and a bizarre opportunity to expericance the past.
Waller made for a great adversarial foil / common goal. Wish we'd seen more of Rhys-Davies, and something more substantial with Banderas, though he served the small role. And seeing...
Marion
I enjoyed it more than Crystal.
Franchise should have ended with last crusade, but I love the character, and this was another fun ride.
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That's a win.
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