Joker: Folie à Deux

[Wor-Gar]

Why are people going out of their way to connect that scene to Ledger?

Welcome... to Batman Fandom!

 

[ironwez20]

The time lines don’t even add up

 

[Wor-Gar]

The time lines don’t even add up

It doesn't between PT and OT in Star Wars, either!

Coincidence...?

 

[Mr. Awesome]

As it stands, I'm still only acknowledging three Joker's existsnce.

1. Nicholson
2. Ledger
3. Leto (yeah, I said it)

I'll give a nod to Batman TAS Joker as well.

 

[Wor-Gar]

1. Nicholson
2. Ledger

Nothing else matters. You have both ends of the spectrum here.

 

[Mr. Awesome]

Nothing else matters. You have both ends of the spectrum here.

If forced to, I could live with that. Totally.

 

[Mr. Awesome]

This needs to be scrapped entirely for the nxt The Batman film. They CANNOT include Joker for obvious reasons now. Just write him out.



I'm not surprised they went with this look tho. I've absolutely despised every single costume/makeup design for all the characters in it. Good movie, but I wanna vomit looking at the costume design choices.

Batman - meh
Catwoman - bleh
Riddler - uninspired trash
Joker - A disgrace

Penguin was fine. So there's that.

 

[histrionics]

The studio got what they wanted out of Joker 1, everything else is gravy. Or thin gravy at this point. Joker 1 is proof of life to investors that this concept can succeed as a stand alone franchise. It breached the billion dollar mark. Also it garnered Oscars. And it did so despite immediately backlash from those embedded in the mainstream media trying to kill off the first film.

That's not actually true. The Joker screened at the Toronto International Film Festival and was met with standing ovations and huge press/media accolades, with many predictions of an Oscar nomination for Phoenix. Film critics were all over this one and getting behind it, and this was months before it premiered to the public. The Joker had its praise in place and no one mounted a backlash of any kind or tried to kill it off in any way. This wasn't some kind of underdog/outsider/sleeper hit that defied the odds to prevail.

 

[ironwez20]

This needs to be scrapped entirely for the nxt The Batman film. They CANNOT include Joker for obvious reasons now. Just write him out.

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I'm not surprised they went with this look tho. I've absolutely despised every single costume/makeup design for all the characters in it. Good movie, but I wanna vomit looking at the costume design choices.

Batman - meh
Catwoman - bleh
Riddler - uninspired trash
Joker - A disgrace

Penguin was fine. So there's that.

Gosh he’s hideous. I saw an interesting video where they said they wanted fantastical Batman again and that this realistic Batman approach has gotten stale. Yes the Batman was good. But I’m very tired of grounded Batman.

Give me the monsters , give me Batman doing crazy **** and make it dark. Batman doesn’t always need to be “ realistic “ that dumb trend is over

 

[ironwez20]

It doesn't between PT and OT in Star Wars, either!

Coincidence...?

Did it give us rots? Yes? Oh well then I don’t care

 

[Mr. Awesome]

Killer Croc needs a better showcase. Poison Ivy is right up there with Catwoman as a GOAT that needs to be revisited.

And for goodness sake, can we PLEASE get a Mad Hatter? He's perfect for a live action interpretation.

DC has potential but they tip toe around all the good aspects of it. Pisses me right off.

Creature Commandos can eat me..

Clay face is essentially Sandman. Weak sauce that'll be lightly utilized because of the expensive CGI it'll require to execute.

And I want Margaret back as Harley Quinn, dammit. Idgaf if she's from the Snyderverse.

Until another broad can top her performance, she's Harley for me.

 

[crows]

this movie legitimately ruined joker for me forever
I'm not joking. I'm not memeing...........

I saw a regular joker toy on Walmart and it felt disgusting.

I immediately remembered all my AI jokes and all the **** memes and how pathetic and weak Joaquin Phoenix was in the role.


this movie also ruined Joaquin Phoenix for me forever. I don't care how great he is next.
all I see is a pathetic arrogant guy.

no I am NOT joking .......... I'm not.

I truly felt nauseous as I saw the toy ........ it was like a trigger. unconsciously I felt sick
it brought me back to my shower ai pics .....
I unconsciously felt genuinely disgusted,

 

[Wor-Gar]

this movie legitimately ruined joker for me forever
I'm not joking. I'm not memeing...........

I saw a regular joker toy on Walmart and it felt disgusting.

I immediately remembered all my AI jokes and all the **** memes and how pathetic and weak Joaquin Phoenix was in the role.


this movie also ruined Joaquin Phoenix for me forever. I don't care how great he is next.
all I see is a pathetic arrogant guy.

no I am NOT joking .......... I'm not.

I truly felt nauseous as I saw the toy ........ it was like a trigger. unconsciously I felt sick
it brought me back to my shower ai pics .....
I unconsciously felt genuinely disgusted,

 

[Mr. Awesome]

this movie legitimately ruined joker for me forever
I'm not joking. I'm not memeing...........

I saw a regular joker toy on Walmart and it felt disgusting.

I immediately remembered all my AI jokes and all the **** memes and how pathetic and weak Joaquin Phoenix was in the role.


this movie also ruined Joaquin Phoenix for me forever. I don't care how great he is next.
all I see is a pathetic arrogant guy.

no I am NOT joking .......... I'm not.

I truly felt nauseous as I saw the toy ........ it was like a trigger. unconsciously I felt sick
it brought me back to my shower ai pics .....
I unconsciously felt genuinely disgusted,

I can't say I agree with all of this but I most certainly can understand it. That sucks, man.

 

[Wor-Gar]

A whole new meaning to...

And...

 

[crows]

you guys think I'm joking and I deserve to not be believed because I troll so much.
I deserve any doubt. I do nothing but clown around. I'm always playing around ...

but........it was like a gut reaction.
it was like instinct.
seeing the joker classical toy immediately made me think of that stupid shower and those cops .......
made me think of the joker in his tighty whiteys being dragged into his cell.....


thank God I don't own any joker toys

 

[Wor-Gar]

 

[Mr. Awesome]

you guys think I'm joking and I deserve to not be believed because I troll so much.
I deserve any doubt. I do nothing but clown around. I'm always playing around ...

but........it was like a gut reaction.
it was like instinct.
seeing the joker classical toy immediately made me think of that stupid shower and those cops .......
made me think of the joker in his tighty whiteys being dragged into his cell.....


thank God I don't own any joker toys

I get that. Truly. However..

I think you'd be doing yourself and the character a disservice by just outright allowing that POS movie to dictate what Joker is to you.

There are more awesome interpretations of him in live action, animation and comics than there are not.

Let Joker 2 make me not care about or dislike the character? Hell no. Not this guy.

 

[Wor-Gar]

 

[crows]

I get that. Truly. However..

I think you'd be doing yourself and the character a disservice by just outright allowing that POS movie to dictate what Joker is to you.

There are more awesome interpretations of him in live action, animation and comics than there are not.

Let Joker 2 make me not care about or dislike the character? Hell no. Not this guy.

maybe a new movie could help.
and if I watch the dark knight I'll still enjoy it maybe
but it was a very primal reaction. it caught me by surprise