Man of Steel (SPOILERS)

Collector Freaks Forum

Help Support Collector Freaks Forum:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
Re: The Man of Steel

Lois always gets a pass. He saved one guy in the first initial battle.

And sure, he saved the world. But I wanted more "****. I gotta save these people in the building. Despite Zod trying to beat the **** out of me."

I would've gave me more suspense during those scenes. But like I said, it's a nitpick.
 
Re: The Man of Steel

Seems quite devisive.

Some are saying it handles the characters and story well while others are saying it's nothing but empty action porn for the ADD generation :dunno
 
Re: The Man of Steel

Seems quite devisive.

Some are saying it handles the characters and story well while others are saying it's nothing but empty action porn for the ADD generation :dunno

Well, imagine them stripping Spider-Man of his identifiably nerdy, witty, lovable personality and making him an annoying, entitlement brat and total doucheba.... wait... nvm. You'll loooooooooooooooove MoS. :lol
 
Re: The Man of Steel

Seems quite devisive.

Some are saying it handles the characters and story well while others are saying it's nothing but empty action porn for the ADD generation :dunno

I would say the truth is somewhere in the middle. I think it mostly depends on what version of Superman is your Superman. If you hold to the Reeve version, then this film is lacking somewhat. I really hold no attachments to the character. My favorite version isn't even canon(Superman: Earth One) This borrows heavily from that one, so for me it is a win. The story is good. Not Oscar winning or groundbreaking, but it is there. I am interested to see where they go from here.
 
Re: The Man of Steel

Eh I don't see it as Superman killing anyone anymore than Randy Quaid in Independance Day.

I think the point here was alot of people dying was inevitable but the entire planet was saved. In reality we should have seen about a few thousand people dead in Avengers and that was no less their fault for having had the cube to begin with.

But yea in the long run, it's going to make something like Brainiac or Darkseid tough to do without killing alot more people.

:goodpost::duff
 
Re: The Man of Steel

Clark's character was pretty classic IMO... The Kent's trying to help him control his emotions and find his path as he grows up... then he goes on a journey to find himself and his destiny.
And then comes back to face that and a lot more!!
But Zod shows up when he's still learning about his background, understand his powers, and what Jor-El was trying to do... then we see the flashbacks of how Pa and Ma Kent, were there building his character and how it affects his decisions before, during and after the battle.

By the end of the movie you see he just dealt with all that was happening in the best possible way... he became even more human than before, and it's just the beginning of him being Superman!
 
Re: The Man of Steel

He didn't want
all the people to see what he was capable of...
he explained it would be worse, and the moment wasn't right...
besides, he didn't know how to fly yet...

Plus they wanted to show that even though he dizzied his father while in the truck he respected and love him greatly and would not disobey his wishes
.
 
Re: The Man of Steel

Part of what made the Reeve version work were the "Clark" moments. Though, arguably, there were far too much of them in the older flicks (and even Returns). Don't get me wrong, I don't want Lois and Clark on the big screen, but it would've been nice to have those here. unfortunately, the human aspect was left on the doorstep in favor of overwhelming action sequences (and they are epic!). The end, especially, while cool, seems devoid of Superman as protector, which is what's so unique about Superman... or at least what was so unique about him.



I meant in overall scope. It's action for the sake of action and quite literally, a dumb, fun, summer blockbuster.

Pretty much agree with everything said here.
 
Re: The Man of Steel

I guess I want a Superman that's charming, and cares about human life, and will stop fighting to save a building full of people.

That's not the Avengers MO. That's Superman's MO. I want that Boy Scout. That's what makes him different.

But whatever. That's more of a nitpick I found funny. It wouldn't have ruined the movie for me....

Fair enough, I understand and respect your point. :duff
 
Re: The Man of Steel

I guess I want a Superman that's charming, and cares about human life, and will stop fighting to save a building full of people.

That's not the Avengers MO. That's Superman's MO. I want that Boy Scout. That's what makes him different.

But whatever. That's more of a nitpick I found funny. It wouldn't have ruined the movie for me....

:exactly: I agree 100%. Now why Celtic can't you come around to my way of thinking about IM3 ;) :)

Lois always gets a pass. He saved one guy in the first initial battle.

And sure, he saved the world. But I wanted more "****. I gotta save these people in the building. Despite Zod trying to beat the **** out of me."

I would've gave me more suspense during those scenes. But like I said, it's a nitpick.

Yep...

I wanted something like that. It's what Superman is all about.. It would have helped with the suspense aspect of the film greatly.
 
Surprised as I really,really liked this film. All the actors produced high quality performances (especially the actress playing Martha Kent) and for me the empathy and emotions were there (Clark and Martha scenes stand out). Zod was a more believable villain here than in superman 2. His motives were clear and even noble within his moral framework ie preservation of his race.

Regarding the events in Metropolis, I doubt New York had a great time in the Avengers, or Washington in Independence day! You cant make an omlette without breaking some eggs after all especially when it comes to epic action in the summer blockbuster.

On a much lighter note. Also liked Amy Adams as Lois. But then redheads have always been my kryptonite (I married one lol)

Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 2
 
Re: The Man of Steel

First half of Superman the movie + 2nd half superman 2=man of steel? Right?

Only thing I really hated was when clark impaled the ahole truckers rig.

How will they top this movie. I would love to see braianac but that would be another alien invasion.

Really? I thought that was pretty cool, and it's one of very few "humorous" scenes that are in the movie.
 
Re: The Man of Steel

I enjoyed the movie. i really enjoyed the Kent parts (wish it had more) less from the kryptonian piece. The action / fights were brutal and destructive which is expected but Supes seemed to only care about Lois. Totally shocked by the ending, I can't decide if that's alright for Superman.

I wouldn't classify as classic but ok for a start...
 
Re: The Man of Steel

Reeve pioneered and perfected the Kent/Kal contrast and I can't imagine anyone being able to do that without coming off as doing a Reeve impression. Every time Routh did it, he seemed like he was only tracing Reeve's style instead of coming into his own characterization. I'm sorta glad they skipped the Kent stuff from that angle but kept it around to convey his humility. I'm really glad I didn't have to endure a bossy Lois who feels compelled to turn Clark into a complete tool over and over again.
 
Re: The Man of Steel

I enjoyed the movie. i really enjoyed the Kent parts (wish it had more) less from the kryptonian piece. The action / fights were brutal and destructive which is expected but Supes seemed to only care about Lois. Totally shocked by the ending, I can't decide if that's alright for Superman.

I wouldn't classify as classic but ok for a start...

Yes... it was a brutal and a bit out of the classic Supes character... but he was in the toughest situation possible... I don't think he could've done anything else though... and you can tell for his reaction that it really made him suffer a lot... but it all comes to what Pa Kent told him about letting people "die"... he was not willing to risk that now that everyone knew about him
 
Re: The Man of Steel

Put my comments in the bold. Just a heads up. I respect your opinion just not your leap in logic about viewers not connecting with the film are actually unable to "keep up with the narrative"

Kuzeh you said If the shoe fits... I guess... I said some people, speaking mostly about the critics...

How does that shoe fit though when one just wants a good well told story with well thought out characters??

And no, this wasn't done for short attention span viewers... as I said, the reason people are saying that is because they couldn't "connect" or as I say keep up with the narrative and character development during the action scenes...

I think people can keep up just fine.. It's how it was Executed that many are having the issues. If I am not emotionally involved with the characters and if the story is not all that involving then I am basically just watching F/X for the sake of F/X

There is also a big difference in not connecting with a film and not "keeping up with the narrative" that is a pretty big leap.


You can see how Superman changes and evolves throughout the movie, and specially during the battle... specially during
Zod's demise
If you don't see how he's put in a very difficult position there and how he has to make an extreme decision then, I don't know what to tell you!
Why is this difficult for him?? Other then knowing his character from the comics.. when do we find out that Superman puts life above everything else?? I understand his extreme decision because I know the character. If I went into this film with no prior knowledge of who Superman was then that action would not seem strange... Just logical.

Also, there's plenty of scenes where he tries to protect humans, but he isn't able to do it all the time...

Hmmm at the end there is Lois, a pilot, and a family. It is what it is but as some others have said I would have liked to see Superman stop fighting to save some people.

You also can see how he gets a better understanding of what Jor-El was trying to do with the whole
Natural birth issue, and how all the Kryptonians were "engineered" and that was part of the demise of Krypton, and you can see it in Zod during his exchanges with Supes.

Sure we do... But for me it was an uninvolving plot point... Woould have rather had that time spent getting to know the characters at the Daily Planet, Zod, Louis, or Superman himself.

As I said, maybe because all of the action you couldn't keep up with all these developments in the story, and there are a lot more, but hey... to each his own...

You pointed out nothing that I did not already know. This film was not some sort of high concept film making. I think you have to give viewers a little more credit.


You don't HAVE to like it, but I think you and a lot of critics are dismissing it unfairly and for the wrong reasons...

From what I have read I would say it's wrong to expect Donner's Superman. But we should expect characters done as well as Donner's Superman. Other then the Donner comparisons much of the complaining have been about story and character development. Things that I think have merit when discussing this film.

Again, the movie is not perfect, but it is a damn great Superman movie!

Well when there is Superman III, The Quest for Piece, and Returns then I guess the Bar has not been set too high... But it was better then those film to be sure. But I will say it again.... I am Jealous that you guys got to enjoy this film so much... I wanted to.. But it was a disappointment for me.
 
Re: The Man of Steel

Spoilers
Now that the military and Lois knows who he is, how can he even think about trying the Clark Kent identity thing?
 
Re: The Man of Steel

Spoilers
Now that the military and Lois knows who he is, how can he even think about trying the Clark Kent identity thing?

They're not the people he needs to protect his identity from. And they're keeping it a secret, too, for their own reasons.

Also... the military aspect will tie-in big time in the sequels and Justice League.
 
Back
Top