Question for the talented painters on this board.

[JustinLuck]

It was noted on Rebelscum that the expression in the following pic is very close to the SSC Luke, except for the eyes. Do you guys think it would be possible to repaint the eyes in some way to give him more of a confident look? Or is it his eyelids that are causing the surprised expression?

 

[TOE]

 

[pjam]

That's a great side by side comp TOE!

 

[TOE]

That's a great side by side comp TOE!

thanks. I'm currently working on a class film project so why not spend some time to photoshop while on break

....also, IMO, I think it can be done. Just repaint the eyes and that's it. I'm no painter but from the looks of it, i guess you can.

 

[Darth Madden]

Looks to me like you would have to open his eyes more and that might be pretty difficult

 

[pjam]

Well, I think it can be done fairly easily but I am not a painter so I would love to hear from some but...

Simply repainting the eyes, pupils and irises such that they are looking more upwards to match that photo would make a world of difference... and capture that "look".

As far as the eyebrows, that's another story, they would have to be sanded off and reputtied in a lower position... again. Not that tough for a talented artist...

But I actually love my Luke the way he is, Mat did a great job with the expression however I would love to see this look refashioned too!

 

[JustinLuck]

That is why I would gladly purchase an Endor Luke with a slightly modified expression. Or as was also suggested on Rebelscum: extra heads with multiple expressions sold separately.

 

[DarkArtist81]

Well, I think it can be done fairly easily but I am not a painter so I would love to hear from some but...

Simply repainting the eyes, pupils and irises such that they are looking more upwards to match that photo would make a world of difference... and capture that "look".

As far as the eyebrows, that's another story, they would have to be sanded off and reputtied in a lower position... again. Not that tough for a talented artist...

But I actually love my Luke the way he is, Mat did a great job with the expression however I would love to see this look refashioned too!

You've pretty much hit the nail on the head there.... You would have to sand off the eyebrows and resculpt them lower for that more stern look, also paint the eyes looking up through his lids instead of straight forward and that would probably get the effect you were looking for. It would be a tough project that's for sure..... and there would be no guarantee it would look good... But if I had another Luke I'd try it...

Just don't know if I would want to try something so drastic with my Exclusive...

 

[Customikey]

Agreed. As for sanding down the brows, etc., I sort of feel like that is going a bit over the line with respect to the hard work that went into the sculpt. I like the feeling that I'm working WITH the sculpt (and by proxy, the sculptor) to create the best figure possible, instead of re-sculpting, sanding, cutting, etc.

I know a few people on this board have done wonderful things by shaving off bits of face and so on, and I respect the work they've done. Much of it is quite amazing. But I personally shant be doing it. I think you can achieve great results without the exacto.

With regards to painting Luke so he's looking more up, I have two reasons for not wanting to do this.
First, it limits his posing options. His neck articualtion is such that he'd always be looking up. He'd never be able to look down at Leia, a funerl pyre, his robotic hand, etc.
Secondly, I already did this with my Anakin, and I don't want them to look too similar.

 

[JustinLuck]

I agree about eye position. People can still look 'confident and determined' when looking straight across the room.

Personally, I think the Luke sculpt is great for what it is. It really does emulate Mark Hamill's contemplating expression during many moments in ROTJ.

 

[pjam]

For the record, raising the pupils a tad to "match" the photo does not mean Luke is looking "up", but would get that look in the pic if you get my drift...

 

[Gruff Old Bear]

To get a perfect comp, you'd have to tilt the figure's head forward, dropping the chin a bit. The Hamill photo is shot from a slightly higher perspective. I think the figure's eyebrows are probably fine as they presently are.

If the eyes themselves had the slightest touch of sanpaku, he would look more confident and focused. You'd still pose it with chin lowered.

There would be too much upper eyelid to match the photo, but who needs to match a photo? Find another photo!

No resculpting. Eye repaint. Add slight sanpaku (white visible under the iris; see Sideshow Ardeth Bey bust for an example of extreme sanpaku).

 

[occulum]

sanpaku

*writes down new word learned today*

 

[pjam]

Sanpaku!!!

 

[Gruff Old Bear]

Just remember, if you see white left right and below it's sanpaku...unless you see white underneath because he's pulling his lower lid down with his finger.

That's a whole different thing.


PS..."floating irises" are often called sampaku. But it comes from sanpaku, which means "three empty spaces." You can Google either term.

 

[JustinLuck]

Yes, according to this website, sanpaku is usually considered a bad thing.

https://skepdic.com/sanpaku.html

 

[Gruff Old Bear]

I've wondered how much Hayden worries about the belief that eye-whites indicate spiritual and sexual health...