I'll just put it here.
If Superman breaking Zod's neck is seen out of character and the director not understanding Superman then Batman not figuring out the riddle of bringing the rat with wings under the light thus getting caught off guard with Falcone's assassination is the same.
I don't have a problem with Supes needing to kill Zod at that point. The problem is the setup as it has been mentioned here. The family clearly had a way to get away from the heat vision and I'm not talking underneath it even if it's a possibility. Had Superman seen the family making a beeline to the other direction staying close to the rubble as fast as possible, Superman would have definitely prevented the heat vision or Zod from reaching them. There was a lot of space between the two and the family if they escaped the other direction. But it left Superman without a choice due to the dumb scenario.
Again, as suggested earlier, a slight change to the situation will sell the whole scene like having one of the family member's leg pinned against the rubble or something. I give Superman a lot of slack here because this is his first rodeo as Superman and it is against with multiple individuals that are as strong as him. This guy never fought before at all.
On to The Batman. Batman in general is considered as one of the smartest individuals and the greatest detective. Doesn't seem so in the movie. How could he have not solved that riddle as well as figuring out Riddler's grand plan? Sure, the riddles the Riddler gave intentionally have multiple meanings but at that point, Batman should have already worked that out and yet was caught off guard with Falcone's assassination. It was very out of character for Batman. It just feels a mess at that point. Batman isn't competent at solving the riddles, didn't know where the Riddler is, and couldn't be bothered to reverse Google image search what that carpet tucker was at the Mayor's murder scene. So all that time, Batman didn't know what that piece of significant evidence was, didn't bother to research it, and only got an ah-ha moment had not been for that specific officer on guard duty.
Harder for me to cut this Batman some slack because he is in his second year of doing this crap and definitely not his first crazy villain rodeo given the Joker is already in prison. I'm sure he's solved some murder mysteries as well. If you factor the deleted Joker scene, it gives the impression that even Joker has a better grasp of the Riddler situation than Batman did at that time.
The other complaints of Batman surviving that dive from the building, tanking the bullets, or whatever aspect of the car chase is with less merit. It's Batman. He's what a regular human is at their peak in comic book reality. It's a comic book movie.
Hmmmmm... maybe the reason why the family chose not to move from their spot was because there was a man behind Superman and Zod doing some crazy gestures. Scared the **** out of them... lol!
If Superman breaking Zod's neck is seen out of character and the director not understanding Superman then Batman not figuring out the riddle of bringing the rat with wings under the light thus getting caught off guard with Falcone's assassination is the same.
I don't have a problem with Supes needing to kill Zod at that point. The problem is the setup as it has been mentioned here. The family clearly had a way to get away from the heat vision and I'm not talking underneath it even if it's a possibility. Had Superman seen the family making a beeline to the other direction staying close to the rubble as fast as possible, Superman would have definitely prevented the heat vision or Zod from reaching them. There was a lot of space between the two and the family if they escaped the other direction. But it left Superman without a choice due to the dumb scenario.
Again, as suggested earlier, a slight change to the situation will sell the whole scene like having one of the family member's leg pinned against the rubble or something. I give Superman a lot of slack here because this is his first rodeo as Superman and it is against with multiple individuals that are as strong as him. This guy never fought before at all.
On to The Batman. Batman in general is considered as one of the smartest individuals and the greatest detective. Doesn't seem so in the movie. How could he have not solved that riddle as well as figuring out Riddler's grand plan? Sure, the riddles the Riddler gave intentionally have multiple meanings but at that point, Batman should have already worked that out and yet was caught off guard with Falcone's assassination. It was very out of character for Batman. It just feels a mess at that point. Batman isn't competent at solving the riddles, didn't know where the Riddler is, and couldn't be bothered to reverse Google image search what that carpet tucker was at the Mayor's murder scene. So all that time, Batman didn't know what that piece of significant evidence was, didn't bother to research it, and only got an ah-ha moment had not been for that specific officer on guard duty.
Harder for me to cut this Batman some slack because he is in his second year of doing this crap and definitely not his first crazy villain rodeo given the Joker is already in prison. I'm sure he's solved some murder mysteries as well. If you factor the deleted Joker scene, it gives the impression that even Joker has a better grasp of the Riddler situation than Batman did at that time.
The other complaints of Batman surviving that dive from the building, tanking the bullets, or whatever aspect of the car chase is with less merit. It's Batman. He's what a regular human is at their peak in comic book reality. It's a comic book movie.
Hmmmmm... maybe the reason why the family chose not to move from their spot was because there was a man behind Superman and Zod doing some crazy gestures. Scared the **** out of them... lol!
. That’s how bad they are
. Also when Superman gave up his powers did he know zodd was on earth?
