The Amazing Spider Man 2 (2014)

[Ash Housewares]

Wasn't a fan of the first movie. Loved the original Spiderman 2 and hated spiderman 3. I really wanted this to be good, but with cinema prices being really expensive and this being compared to spiderman 3, think I will skip this altogether. If Garfield was around when the original films were around they would have been gold but these movies are way too Sappy and cheesey for me with Marc Webb as director. He is no Sam Raimi.

 

[Rorywan]

Wasn't a fan of the first movie. Loved the original Spiderman 2 and hated spiderman 3. I really wanted this to be good, but with cinema prices being really expensive and this being compared to spiderman 3, think I will skip this altogether. If Garfield was around when the original films were around they would have been gold but these movies are way too Sappy and cheesey for me with Marc Webb as director. He is no Sam Raimi.

If you hated the first ASM, i don't think you will like this either. But these are definitely not as cheesy as the Raimi pics IMO. I love Raimi outside of Spiderman. I just thought his theatrical "removed from reality" style was wrong for the street based web slinger. The flat painted sets and lighting alone irked me in Raimi's pics. It was like a heightened reality broadway show.

This new ASM has real human emotion, and while it flounders on some silly stuff, the performances are top notch overall and keep you involved. There is real peril here. Sally Field is fantastic in this as are Stone and Garfield. The villains are a bit more Burton though. So there is this strange mix of tone.
Great fun though. The spider swinging through the city shots were some of the most impressive VFX scenes I've ever seen. I was genuinely thrilled by them, which is saying something considering that we have seen most of them already. And I loved the soundtrack, it's just as crazy as the movie.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

I found this to be entirely different from ASM. Tonally and visually it was almost a sequel to the Raimi-verse Spider-Man than a continuation of the first movie.

 

[jye4ever]

If you hated the first ASM, i don't think you will like this either. But these are definitely not as cheesy as the Raimi pics IMO. I love Raimi outside of Spiderman. I just thought his theatrical "removed from reality" style was wrong for the street based web slinger. The flat painted sets and lighting alone irked me in Raimi's pics. It was like a heightened reality broadway show.

This new ASM has real human emotion, and while it flounders on some silly stuff, the performances are top notch overall and keep you involved. There is real peril here. Sally Field is fantastic in this as are Stone and Garfield. The villains are a bit more Burton though. So there is this strange mix of tone.
Great fun though. The spider swinging through the city shots were some of the most impressive VFX scenes I've ever seen. I was genuinely thrilled by them, which is saying something considering that we have seen most of them already. And I loved the soundtrack, it's just as crazy as the movie.

I found this to be entirely different from ASM. Tonally and visually it was almost a sequel to the Raimi-verse Spider-Man than a continuation of the first movie.

huh, how can this be.

which one of you 2 is correct.

 

[Rorywan]

huh, how can this be.

which one of you 2 is correct.

..tut, tut..the answer to that is pretty clear Jye, neither of us is correct. It's subjective and based on our own opinions.

Personally, apart from the suit, I can't see or feel any similarities to the Raimi pics. Nothing.
The locations for the most part felt real, the acting was "real world" not "heightened reality".

Letting the VFX and tone aside for a minute. Garfield and Stone are not cinematically comparable to Maguire and Dunst.
The strongest part of the first movie was the relationship between the two leads, that's what this is about also, I mean
it's all it's about really. That and the continuing "mystery" of what his father was up to at Oscorp. I thought it followed on
from TASM pretty solidly, just with the Raimi suit thrown in to confuse things. It's a bigger movie no doubt and a lot more colourful.
IMO.

 

[Ash Housewares]

Thing is, if I want a rom com I'll watch one of my fiancees blu rays. Thats what these films are but built around spiderman universe. What I'm saying is, its spiderman for girls.

 

[Dark_Knight_89]

Thing is, if I want a rom com I'll watch one of my fiancees blu rays. Thats what these films are but built around spiderman universe. What I'm saying is, its spiderman for girls.

Couldn't be further from the truth!

 

[Ash Housewares]

I thought the first one was exactly that. I thought it would be when the director of '500 Days of Summer' was attached to it.

 

[Rorywan]

Thing is, if I want a rom com I'll watch one of my fiancees blu rays. Thats what these films are but built around spiderman universe. What I'm saying is, its spiderman for girls.

There was just as much Dunst and Maguire in the previous version. It just didn't work as well.

 

[Dark_Knight_89]

Do people realise that a large percentage of Spider-Man's character and appeal is the "everyday life" aspect of his story... trying to maintain a job, keep a social life, and, yes, pursue relationships with women. He's not a Norse god, a government agent, or a brooding millionaire... take the Spider powers away, he is just your average joe, with everyday problems.

 

[Ash Housewares]

The first and second spiderman had decent villains and I always felt his journey was more about them where as the new ones are more about his love life. Maguire and Dunst weren't great together I agree but it didnt matter to me as it was the first time we saw spidey in action properly on the big screen. Yea the effects are dated but Defoe and Molina were great. All I've heard about is that Electro and Green Goblin are weak villains with crappy motives.

 

[Dark_Knight_89]

There was just as much Dunst and Maguire in the previous version. It just didn't work as well.

Exactly, the chemistry between Garfield and Stone is a vast improvement over the relationship between Maguire and Dunst. And no, I am not hating on the Raimi movies because something new is here, I still watch the Raimi movies regularly.

 

[Jokes & Bats]

Spoiler

Gwens death and it's aftermath is very very strong. There were tears in the audience, beautifully done. You got a real sense of loss from it that is a rarity in cinema these days. It left everyone on a bit of a downer coming out of the cinema though.

Spoiler

Gwen's death - although we knew it was coming - makes me struggle to want to see the film again. It becomes very very serious and depressing and I think the way you have described it is very true.

I'm struggling to find a film to compare it to. Shaun of the Dead, for example, was a really funny, enjoyable film...right up until the moment when he had to shoot his own mother in the head and it became serious. It undid all the previous enjoyment and I can't watch that film again without knowing what is coming. That's how I feel about ASM 2 - future viewings will always be clouded with 'This happiness is short lived because Gwen dies in twenty minutes'. Pretty strong emotions for a superhero film.

 

[Dark_Knight_89]

The first and second spiderman had decent villains and I always felt his journey was more about them where as the new ones ar I are more about his love life. Maguire and Dunst weren't great together I agree but it didnt matter to me as it was the first time we saw spidey in action properly on the big screen. Yea the effects are dated but Defoe and Molina were great. All I've heard about is that Electro and Green Goblin are weak villains with crappy motives.

Spoiler

Goblin is literally fighting to save his life, Electro is a social recluse with a problem with society (like most criminals who go on a rampage)

 

[Ash Housewares]

Is it explained why Dillon goes from Worshipping Spiderman to being his enemy after he has the accident?

 

[Dark_Knight_89]

Spoiler

Gwen's death - although we knew it was coming - makes me struggle to want to see the film again. It becomes very very serious and depressing and I think the way you have described it is very true.

I'm struggling to find a film to compare it to. Shaun of the Dead, for example, was a really funny, enjoyable film...right up until the moment when he had to shoot his own mother in the head and it became serious. It undid all the previous enjoyment and I can't watch that film again without knowing what is coming. That's how I feel about ASM 2 - future viewings will always be clouded with 'This happiness is short lived because Gwen dies in twenty minutes'. Pretty strong emotions for a superhero film.

Spoiler

Whilst her death is incredibly sad, I think the ending is great. He gets closure from Gwen, and the scene of him returning to action as Spider-Man squaring off against the Rhino in front of the people of New York is great. Complete that with the closing card of the Spider-Man logo and Zimmer's theme... It's a nice finale.

 

[Dark_Knight_89]

Is it explained why Dillon goes from Worshipping Spiderman to being his enemy after he has the accident?

Yes it is. Again, the problem here is people making conclusive judgement on a movie before they have even seen it.

 

[Rorywan]

For gawds sake people, ***** about the movie after you've seen it by all means.
Not before hand.

 

[Ash Housewares]

I'm merely saying that if it isn't a step up from the first movie ( which seems to me by reading opinions and reviews it isn't ) then I will wait and watch it at home. I was simply giving my opinion on these films compared to the earlier versions, which is what started this off. Who knows I might like it, I want to but a decent Spiderman movie should be fantastic, not simply good.

 

[Ash Housewares]

Is it a good enough reason though? Why he goes after Spiderman I mean.