the world's first REAL cyborg...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QPiF4-iu6g

a robot controlled by a disembodied rat brain......


I'm more than a little creeped out by this.

Comments?

That's really creepy indeed...

Coincidentally, I saw part of a documentary on Nat. Geo. yesterday about robotic arms and legs replacing human limbs.
There was this man, who looked a lot like the one putting that "robo-rat" on the ground in your link, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's the same man.
He voluntarily had neuro-transmitters (or something like that) implanted in his arm so he could control a robotic arm just by moving is own arm and hand. He also could control it over the internet and what not.
He said he was the world's first real cyborg and sort or less suggested that in the future everyone should replace their limbs with robotic limbs, even if there was nothing wrong with them.
There was also research of hooking your brain up to the internet to download music-lessons or whatever. (Like in The Matrix)

Well, drifted a bit off topic there, but your link just reminded me of that strange man with is creepy ideas...
 
Some scientists are such perverse vulgar ^^^^ers. Stop messing around with animals. If you want to play Wall-E use your own stinking brain.
 
That's really creepy indeed...

Coincidentally, I saw part of a documentary on Nat. Geo. yesterday about robotic arms and legs replacing human limbs.
There was this man, who looked a lot like the one putting that "robo-rat" on the ground in your link, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's the same man.
He voluntarily had neuro-transmitters (or something like that) implanted in his arm so he could control a robotic arm just by moving is own arm and hand. He also could control it over the internet and what not.
He said he was the world's first real cyborg and sort or less suggested that in the future everyone should replace their limbs with robotic limbs, even if there was nothing wrong with them.
There was also research of hooking your brain up to the internet to download music-lessons or whatever. (Like in The Matrix)

Well, drifted a bit off topic there, but your link just reminded me of that strange man with is creepy ideas...

That's funny, since the majority of people can't even afford to have a tooth pulled, let alone afford robot arms.

They should put more effort and money into finding a cure for cancer than doing this crap.
 
That's funny, since the majority of people can't even afford to have a tooth pulled, let alone afford robot arms.

They should put more effort and money into finding a cure for cancer than doing this crap.

Yes indeed they should, that would benefit a lot more people
 
The good news is no-one on this board will ever see anything like this in full swing.

The bad news is no-one on this board will ever see anything like this in full swing.
 
The good news is no-one on this board will ever see anything like this in full swing.

The bad news is no-one on this board will ever see anything like this in full swing.

:lol

And it turns out this has a point:

A robot controlled by a blob of rat brain cells could provide insights into diseases such as Alzheimer's, University of Reading scientists say.

The project marries 300,000 rat neurons to a robot that navigates via sonar.

The neurons are now being taught to steer the robot around obstacles and avoid the walls of the small pen in which it is kept.

By studying what happens to the neurons as they learn, its creators hope to reveal how memories are laid down.

Hybrid machines

The blob of nerves forming the brain of the robot was taken from the neural cortex in a rat foetus and then treated to dissolve the connections between individual neurons.

Sensory input from the sonar on the robot is piped to the blob of cells to help them form new connections that will aid the machine as it navigates around its pen.

As the cells are living tissue, they are kept separate from the robot in a temperature-controlled cabinet in a container pitted with electrodes. Signals are passed to and from the robot via Bluetooth short-range radio.
Reading robot, University of Reading/PA
The robot and rat brain cells work together

The brain cells have been taught how to control the robot's movements so it can steer round obstacles and the next step, say its creators, is to get it to recognise its surroundings.

Once the robot can do this the researchers plan to disrupt the memories in a bid to recreate the gradual loss of mental faculties seen in diseases such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's.

Studies of how neural tissue is degraded or copes with the disruption could give insights into these conditions.

"One of the fundamental questions that neuroscientists are facing today is how we link the activity of individual neurons to the complex behaviours that we see in whole organisms and whole animals," said Dr Ben Whalley, a neuroscientist at Reading.

"This project gives us a really useful and unique opportunity to look at something that may exhibit whole behaviours but still remains closely tied to the activity of individual neurons," he said.

The Reading team is not the first to harness living tissue to control robots.

In 2003, Dr Steve Potter at the Georgia Institute of Technology pioneered work on what he dubbed "hybrots" that marry neural tissue and robots.

In earlier work, scientists at Northwestern University Medical Center in the US wired a wheeled robot up to a lamprey in a bid to explore novel ways of controlling prosthetics.
 
I don't really care if it has a point or not, if a species has to do disgusting horrific ^^^^ like that to better themselves it doesn't deserve to survive in my opion. Humans will get sick and will die at some point, deal with it but keep some dignity about it for god sakes, don't become all horror-show to gain a few years of life.

PLUS: Rats have their own problems and don't need this ^^^^ from us.:lol
 
Cylons & Skynet & Borg, oh my!

So, if each time they replaced the brains, the robot behaved differently, does that mean that some part of the rat survives on some awareness level and is trying to figure out what's going on and how to escape. Imagine experiencing that.
 
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I don't really care if it has a point or not, if a species has to do disgusting horrific ^^^^ like that to better themselves it doesn't deserve to survive in my opion. Humans will get sick and will die at some point, deal with it but keep some dignity about it for god sakes, don't become all horror-show to gain a few years of life.

PLUS: Rats have their own problems and don't need this ^^^^ from us.:lol
I see no ethical difference in this and eating a hamburger... actually the hamburger is more ethically problematic for a myriad of reasons. It's pretty unlikely that neurons taken from an undeveloped rat foetus are going to suffer.

I have ethical problems with some forms of animal testing (especially stuff involving consumer product testing and/or higher primates), but really, how is this any crueller than slaughtering an animal for food?

(Disclaimer: I eat meat. I'm also aware that doing so caused suffering in the animals that provided the meat I'm eating, and accept this, and thank them for their sacrifice and tastiness.)

Also, I think it's a little late to get all bent out of shape about "playing god". Look what we've already done to the world's ecosystem. My personal belief is that if we're to have a future on this planet we'll pretty much have to become cyborgs simply to deal with the toxic environment we've made for ourselves; this is, in any case, a longshot.
 
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I see no ethical difference in this and eating a hamburger... actually the hamburger is more ethically problematic for a myriad of reasons. It's pretty unlikely that neurons taken from an undeveloped rat foetus are going to suffer.

(Note: I'm not a vegetarian.)

8th wonder is. :lol:lol
 
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