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Ok.. here we go.


Traveling into the Future:

My idea differs significantly from most Sci-Fi, movie concepts of this. In most instances i.e. Back To The Future, etc. a person can travel to the future and see themselves. So 30 yrs. into the future, and they can see how they ended up and what they're doing.

NO.

For me, time travel would not work like that. For me, if you were to travel 30 yrs. into the future, this is what would happen:

You would arrive and find that for YOU, the trip would appear to be instantaneous. Mere seconds. But in reality and for everyone else, 30 normal years of time had passed. And in those 30 years YOU would've been missing. Missing since the day you traveled into the future. You would find people astonished that 1) you were actually alive and 2) that you hadn't aged. Everyone would obviously be curious as to where you were. You wouldn't see yourself like in most movies etc. For everyone else, you would've disappeared 30 years ago.


Traveling into the Past:

"The same matter can't occupy the same space".

So if you're 20 years old for instance, traveling into the past anytime within those 20 years + conception time (embryo) you would take over that form. So if you're 20 yrs. old and you travel 15 years into the past, you would end up in your 5 year old body BUT with your "present day" mentality. This would occur only within your age frame i.e. if you're 20 years old and travel back 30 years into the past, you would appear as your current self.

Yeah, I don't really believe in the "same matter, same space" principle. (No offense :))

The way I look upon time travel is like an actual travel. Instead of going somewhere, I would go "somewhen" and it wouldn't change anything to the past I've already experienced.

The way your describing travelling back in time is more like a travelling back of the conscience. So where would my 23 year old body go?
I'm thinking the moment I travel back, is the moment I disappear from this time, and appear in the other time, the way I left. As a 23 year old.

There would be no problem in meeting my 8 year old self, since he (I) probably wouldn't recognize me anyway.
Now it is something else if I decided to travel back a year or so. My 22 year old self would recognize me, which (if there's no way to convince my 22 year old self that time travel is actually possible) could result in , I don't know, psychological issues which would probably immediately affect my 23 year old time travelling self too... So there are dangers in my theory too, but nothing like being erased from time or something like that

I actually agree with The Entity on this. His idea is better and makes more sense.


"What if you traveled back in time and killed your grandfather?"

Then your "identity" would cease to exist in the present. But not YOU. You wouldn't magically disappear or anything like that. You would simply find that when you returned to the present, your family would no longer exist and POSSIBLY, even your family name no longer existed. No one would know who you were and there would be no record of your existence. No fingerprints on file, no birth certificate etc. You'd be unknown. But alive. So that act WOULD make you cease to exist.. but not physically like is the case in most movies.

Thoughts?
 
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Actually you're wrong. We all experience time travel, on a daily basis.
But I agree that time travel into the past and into the distant future is currently impossible.
 
I totally agree with you on travelling to the future!
Nothing to add there IMO :)

If you would travel to the future and at the same time encounter yourself when getting there it would be as if you where cloned at the moment of time travel...


Now travelling back in time I think it would be possible to encounter yourself when younger.

If I would travel back right now (23 years old) say 15 years. Then I think it would be possible to encounter myself as an 8 year old, because the past already happened. Everything up to the point where I traveled back would have been happened, so I would imagine that if I entered the time when I was 8 years old the past leading up to my eventual time travel was happening right then and there.
 
I just traveled a few seconds into the future since posting this.
 
Only reason why I disagree Entity is because imo you (present day 23 yr. old) and you (in the past 8 yrs. old) are one in the same.

"The same matter can't occupy the same space".

In Time Cop that meant, if a person from the present traveled to the past and met themselves and they touched/came into contact with one another, they would both be erased from time. Uh.. I don't buy that. To me, "The same matter can't occupy the same space" means if you travel to the past, you can't occupy the same space as your past self in your current present day self. You would have to be one in the same i.e. my example of traveling back and taking over your physical form (8 years old) but with your present day mentality.

Actually you're wrong. We all experience time travel, on a daily basis.

I just traveled a few seconds into the future since posting this.

:lol That's what I meant. I know, it's lame but hey it's still time travel. :eek:
 
To me, "The same matter can't occupy the same space" means if you travel to the past, you can't occupy the same space as your past self in your current present day self. You would have to be one in the same i.e. my example of traveling back and taking over your physical form (8 years old) but with your present day mentality.
:lol That's what I meant. I know, it's lame but hey it's still time travel. :eek:


How do you define your present day self? Is it your present day self now...now...or now?
 
Only reason why I disagree Entity is because imo you (present day 23 yr. old) and you (in the past 8 yrs. old) are one in the same.

"The same matter can't occupy the same space".

In Time Cop that meant, if a person from the present traveled to the past and met themselves and they touched/came into contact with one another, they would both be erased from time. Uh.. I don't buy that. To me, "The same matter can't occupy the same space" means if you travel to the past, you can't occupy the same space as your past self in your current present day self. You would have to be one in the same i.e. my example of traveling back and taking over your physical form (8 years old) but with your present day mentality.

Yeah, I don't really believe in the "same matter, same space" principle. (No offense :))

The way I look upon time travel is like an actual travel. Instead of going somewhere, I would go "somewhen" and it wouldn't change anything to the past I've already experienced.

The way your describing travelling back in time is more like a travelling back of the conscience. So where would my 23 year old body go?
I'm thinking the moment I travel back, is the moment I disappear from this time, and appear in the other time, the way I left. As a 23 year old.

There would be no problem in meeting my 8 year old self, since he (I) probably wouldn't recognize me anyway.
Now it is something else if I decided to travel back a year or so. My 22 year old self would recognize me, which (if there's no way to convince my 22 year old self that time travel is actually possible) could result in , I don't know, psychological issues which would probably immediately affect my 23 year old time travelling self too... So there are dangers in my theory too, but nothing like being erased from time or something like that.
 
Yeah, I don't really believe in the "same matter, same space" principle. (No offense :))

The way I look upon time travel is like an actual travel. Instead of going somewhere, I would go "somewhen" and it wouldn't change anything to the past I've already experienced.

The way your describing travelling back in time is more like a travelling back of the conscience. So where would my 23 year old body go?
I'm thinking the moment I travel back, is the moment I disappear from this time, and appear in the other time, the way I left. As a 23 year old.

There would be no problem in meeting my 8 year old self, since he (I) probably wouldn't recognize me anyway.
Now it is something else if I decided to travel back a year or so. My 22 year old self would recognize me, which (if there's no way to convince my 22 year old self that time travel is actually possible) could result in , I don't know, psychological issues which would probably immediately affect my 23 year old time travelling self too... So there are dangers in my theory too, but nothing like being erased from time or something like that.

I like your idea better. :lol First post edited. :joy
 
If you went back in time "the grandfather paradox" you would enter a different universe, so you have free will to do what u want, since this universe will not effect the one you came from.
 
I like your idea better. :lol First post edited. :joy

Thanks buddy! :lol :duff

Now we just have to invent a time machine :lol

So what do you reckon?

A time displacement machine like in Terminator, or a vehicle as in Back To The Future?

I'd say vehicle, preferably a flying one, so you could enter high above the ground and attract less attention :)
 
You'd only be able to travel as far back into the past to the date the time machine was invented. So you couldn't travel to time of the dinosaurs, etc. That's what I think.
 
If time travel becomes possible in the future...we could have future people living among us today...
 
The Entity said:
Thanks buddy! :lol :duff

Now we just have to invent a time machine :lol

So what do you reckon?

A time displacement machine like in Terminator, or a vehicle as in Back To The Future?

I'd say vehicle, preferably a flying one, so you could enter high above the ground and attract less attention :)

Flying time machine FTW!!! :lol

NASEDO said:
If you went back in time "the grandfather paradox" you would enter a different universe, so you have free will to do what u want, since this universe will not effect the one you came from.

I disagree, because I don't buy all that alternate/parallel universe crap.

Darthrazz said:
You'd only be able to travel as far back into the past to the date the time machine was invented. So you couldn't travel to time of the dinosaurs, etc. That's what I think.

That makes no sense. So basically you're saying if we invented a time machine right now, you could only go forward in time with it!?

The Craw said:
i wish i could travel back in time to right before i clicked on this thread so i can skip it this time.

:rotfl:rotfl:lol:lol
 
Flying time machine FTW!!! :lol



I disagree, because I don't buy all that alternate/parallel universe crap.



That makes no sense. So basically you're saying if we invented a time machine right now, you could only go forward in time with it!?



:rotfl:rotfl:lol:lol

Where does a subatomic particle exist in between points A & B...(hint nowhere in between)
 
Ok.. here we go.

"What if you traveled back in time and killed your grandfather?"

Then your "identity" would cease to exist in the present. But not YOU. You wouldn't magically disappear or anything like that. You would simply find that when you returned to the present, your family would no longer exist and POSSIBLY, even your family name no longer existed. No one would know who you were and there would be no record of your existence. No fingerprints on file, no birth certificate etc. You'd be unknown. But alive. So that act WOULD make you cease to exist.. but not physically like is the case in most movies.

Thoughts?

This is a bit like who would win in a fight - the Hulk or Superman, but I'll play.

Under your "killed your grandfather" scenario the paradox destroys the entire premise. If you killed your grandfather you'd never have been born and thus could not go back in time to kill your grandfather.

However with the infinite worlds theory, once you kill your grandfather you've created yet another alternate reality and your scenario could then play out when you return to the future.
 
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