why was my recast singled out?

[steven.giunta]

My resized enterbay cowl thread just got closed but why only mine?there are at least 4 other recasts being sold right now.there threads haven't been closed,I am changing the scale which the other recasts did not.not to mention all the accesories in the past that got recasted and sold.

 

[SwedishHeat]

You ought to report all the other recast threads then.

But for all intents and purposes, we ought to get some rules stickied in here about what is and isn't a recast, because this debate ALWAYS comes up and there's never a clear answer as to why some recasts are allowed and some aren't.

 

[King Darkness]

Maybe no one likes you

 

[MisterToyNYC]

Maybe no one likes you

 

[vik2001]

Maybe the boards leaders didnt want issue with enterbay with their heads being sold in here as recasts. Enterbay cud have kicked of about it

 

[steven.giunta]

Maybe the boards leaders didnt want issue with enterbay with their heads being sold in here as recasts. Enterbay cud have kicked of about it

I'm not the only one recasting an enterbay head,but I'm the only one who had there thread closed.

 

[TheFiend]

Just like I said within the first few posts, I knew that dudes rants would shut this thread down. Honestly Steven I see your recast no different than others customs.


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[karamazov80]

I'm not the only one recasting an enterbay head. . .

Well then,

You ought to report all the other recast threads then.

These things are frequently judgment calls, and the moderation team discusses them as they come up, but the site admin makes the final call. Speaking only for myself, if you don't like it, then that's too bad, but it's his site and his rules. No one is entitled to anything here. And unfortunately, black and white, clear cut rules about these things are often not possible because there are so many distinctions between what folks are doing. My thought on this one is that it's a complete head recast, even if it is a different size. That's been a rule of thumb about recast no-nos here. If someone else is blatantly recasting complete Enterbay heads then their threads should be similarly shut down. So please report them.

 

[steven.giunta]

Well then,



These things are frequently judgment calls, and the moderation team discusses them as they come up, but the site admin makes the final call. Speaking only for myself, if you don't like it, then that's too bad, but it's his site and his rules. No one is entitled to anything here. And unfortunately, black and white, clear cut rules about these things are often not possible because there are so many distinctions between what folks are doing. My thought on this one is that it's a complete head recast, even if it is a different size. That's been a rule of thumb about recast no-nos here. If someone else is blatantly recasting complete Enterbay heads then their threads should be similarly shut down. So please report them.

Ok then I will modify it a bit,then is it ok?it doesn't come out of the mold as a perfect copy,I have to sculpt a lot of it to get it back to the right look.so in all reality about 50% of it is gonna be me sculpting it,and the other 50% is the cast.so am I gonna get in trouble if I sell that?I'm not gonna run and tell on people who are recasting but if I can't do it than why should someone else be allowed to?

 

[EVILFACE]

How about just make your own sculpt and not use Enterbays? Problem solved.

 

[Raymond F.]

If you still do it just send us all on the list a pm and we will get it from you anyway. We will just make this the secondary list until someone closes this thread.

You can keep a manual list,

I was on your other list, I'm sure the rest will post here too.

 

[Raymond F.]

Oh I see the thread is still there just closed, just do it anyway but don't advertise it. I dot know why you got singled out. Truth be told I think what you are doing is a lot more acceptable than the enterbay scarface with the slicked back hair as Michael Corleone as an example.

I support recasting when the scale is changed. I don't think it's wrong whatsoever, someone may argue that point but I dont agree

 

[Murderofcrows71]

Not that I condone recasting because I don't, but it's kind of splitting hairs isn't it? It's not okay to sell modified recasts on the board and I get that completely, but it's ok to sell heads or complete figures of licensed characters that the seller hasn't bought rights for? Not judging because I'm just as guilty of making customs as anyone, just bringing up a point.

 

[steven.giunta]

I'm defanatly still doing it,even if I have to sell it offsite.its already halfway done.its in between enterbay and ht size.I would like to make a list and sell it here but if I have to I will just sell them on my own.through emails or pms only.

 

[swsqueakquels]

Recasting not allowed for sale on this forum. Thread closed.

Sounds pretty definitive, and in this case it was even a change of scale. Is there any grey area - like major sculpt tweaks - or is any portion of a sculpt (even say 25%) that has been cast off an existing sculpt still taboo?

This is a hard topic, because - despite what yruh8n infers - this does not seem to me to be generally about profits. It's about a company that comes close to getting something right, then drops the ball in some way, or far less frequently, nails it but in a non-1/6 scale. And so the obsessive die-hards (let's face it people, how many pieces actually sell from these types of projects - a couple of dozen max?) grumble and wish until someone fixes the problem, usually by taking existing pieces and doing something with them.

To me, this type of activity is pretty distinct from some dude on eBay simply taking a HT or SSC head and recasting it then selling it into perpetuity. I think it is the very limited nature of this forum and the degree of change done to pieces that makes it different.

I have no interest in this custom project or even Batman, but I can understand the frustration of an obsessive die-hard seeing it done just right but in the wrong scale and desperately wanting it to nail their Batman.

Trouble is, what is the degree of change that is okay? My guess is it's easier for Darklord Dave to simply say "any part that is recast on an item being sold - even if it's less than 25% of the item - is banned."

 

[Morbach]

I'm definitely interested.

 

[SwedishHeat]

My guess is it's easier for Darklord Dave to simply say "any part that is recast on an item being sold - even if it's less than 25% of the item - is banned."

But that's the thing, what Steven is upset about, robbiethepainter and MRM have recasted Batman heads and sold them and their threads weren't locked. That's why I was asking for some rules to be stickied. There is no rhyme or reason to why some things are allowed and some aren't, you just have to offer them up and hope the thread doesn't get locked.

You can't even say "Any part that is recast isn't allowed" or no iminime threads would be allowed because their figures use HT recast bodies.

 

[swsqueakquels]

But that's the thing, what Steven is upset about, robbiethepainter and MRM have recasted Batman heads and sold them and their threads weren't locked. That's why I was asking for some rules to be stickied. There is no rhyme or reason to why some things are allowed and some aren't, you just have to offer them up and hope the thread doesn't get locked.

Seems like the only hard rule is if someone makes a stink in the thread or reports it, it's pulled, if that doesn't happen, you're fine. It's like violation of city ordinances - most of the time it's only enforced if someone complains.

You can't even say "Any part that is recast isn't allowed" or no iminime threads would be allowed because their figures use HT recast bodies.

Good point.

 

[Commtech]

That sucks steven. F this crap. Sell them outside of these boards.

 

[Hydeous]

Steve, as Dave stated earlier, his decision was not to allow recast of the EB head. If you need more clarification, please PM him instead. Im closing this thread now.