InArt: 1/6 Superman (Cavill)

HyperDrive said:

I tried informing the “influencers” and Riley would reach out to me if I had anything to say regarding certain releases, but who knows if the guy ever reached out to Jon/INART. Riley does seem to care about accuracy, but I’ve noticed he only does when it’s things he’s interested in. WillFoxification repeatedly told me that no one really cares for the costume details and his buddy, KeCo Collects would mock me (and a few others) who provided critical feedback. Other channels like Mr. Mom Collectibles or members on the Jedi Night’s Watch panel would go on emotional rants about my criticisms of the Superman suit and other figures on their pages. I’m sorry, but none of the guys on YouTube (people with some level of outreach given the platforms they have) have our back in supporting wanting more accuracy related to certain details.

Edit: and good luck trying to reach the big YouTubers: Justin’s Collections, Jedha Patrol, and DeanKnight, which is why I hoped WillFoxification and Riley Reviews would assist with the alley-oop. Hell, even KeCo Collects has connections to INART.

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My suggestion to reach out to influencers with feedback regarding accuracy was sarcasm.

That’s my point, InArt cares so much about these influencers, yet these influencers do not care about us. If these influencers can’t even act as a middle man for us, of what use are they other than bragging about new product playing show and tell?

They don’t care that you’re still waiting for Batman, they don’t care if your copy arrived damaged and you had to go through a lengthy process to get it straightened out.

All that matters is that InArt sends them a new figure to review before everyone else.
You won’t hear a negative word from any of them unless they stop getting early product on time for their channel.

They wouldn’t speak so fondly of InArt if the last figure they reviewed was the Batman back in May.
Why speak out when keeping your mouth shut grants you new releases that are possibly free of charge? Just know they’re in the companies pocket and focus less on what a review says, and more on what it shows.

We have eyes, someone doesn’t have to mention QC issues for them to be apparent. Watching reviews on mute is the best way to decide if you like something, if it’s good enough, everything you need. Turning the volume on is just going to make you fight your initial opinions in favor of theirs.

Nick D said:

My suggestion to reach out to influencers with feedback regarding accuracy was sarcasm.

That’s my point, InArt cares so much about these influencers, yet these influencers do not care about us. If these influencers can’t even act as a middle man for us, of what use are they other than bragging about new product playing show and tell?

They don’t care that you’re still waiting for Batman, they don’t care if your copy arrived damaged and you had to go through a lengthy process to get it straightened out.

All that matters is that InArt sends them a new figure to review before everyone else.
You won’t hear a negative word from any of them unless they stop getting early product on time for their channel.

They wouldn’t speak so fondly of InArt if the last figure they reviewed was the Batman back in May.
Why speak out when keeping your mouth shut grants you new releases that are possibly free of charge? Just know they’re in the companies pocket and focus less on what a review says, and more on what it shows. We have eyes, someone doesn’t have to mention QC issues for them to be apparent. Watching reviews on mute is the best way to decide if you like something, if it’s good enough, everything you need. Turning the volume on is just going to make you fight your initial opinions in favor of theirs.

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Sarcasm or not, what I said still stands. Regardless of these Influencers’ own personal interest invested in this company and the arrangements they may have, they’d still be able to create some level of change if they were more receptive to things from others.

But to your point as to whom are they really “influencing”? – this is where we will agree to disagree, but imo, the whole basic point of them receiving and making video reviews of INART releases is to ideally promote future growth and exposure for the company, to benefit INART. I guess you see solely as “bragging and playing show and tell.”

There’s various components to this, but what I was talking about before is a separate point, something I thought would’ve added to the discussion.

JorjeCroft said:

WillFox told you that nobody cares about costume details or accuracy? Why we are complaining here then. We complain bc we love the character/actor and we wanted the best figure possible. And it was promised to us. Some ppl have higher standards than others. I don't know what these youtubers smoke but I watch them time to time and I have a feel they aren't actually passionate enough and do all these stuff bc of attention and ''recognition''. Bc no passionate collector would ignore all the issues this figure has. I'm in a few collecting community and they are full of posers.

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Yeah, plenty of times.

I also agree they’re not super passionate about the source material and sometimes I feel they’re just in it for clout and for the camaraderie which is fine, but at least acknowledge other types of collectors and those whom are more privy to certain details and want more accuracy. It’d literally be a win-win for everyone lol

Luisenigma1 said:

I was actually going to say if they went with seamless arms under the body almost similar to how threezero did with their Rambo body (used on their snake eyes and Strom shadow and witcher figures) that way the arms wouldn't get to much bunching and have a seamless look.

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that wouldn't work out too well due to the nature of how soft the seamless arms are. You wouldn't get the definition coming through the suit. This why Rovanic applies shading on top of the spandex suits when he uses the Phicen/TBLeague bodies. The musculature just doesn't come through well enough with those silicone bodies and for this character (and Batfleck), you need the muscles to be seen and seen well. Also, they'd most likely have to forgo the chrome and go with the silver/chrome paint instead. Regular chrome would most likely crack and flake off

HyperDrive said:

Mr. Mom Collectibles or members on the Jedi Night’s Watch panel would go on emotional rants about my criticisms of the Superman suit and other figures on their pages.

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Unsurprising, don’t really care for that guy or Jedha personally.

Look at us... we're all squabbling against each other. I think this is what Viper wants. We're in discord just like how those poor mom and pop toy stores after he finished terrorizing them.

I see it as bragging because it’s sold out product,
it will always be sold out product they’re reviewing. Who is there left to influence?

Anyone currently in the hobby has found out about InArt. People new to the hobby are going to find themselves quickly out of it.

Put yourself in their shoes, never ordered 1:6,
came across InArt’s LOTR line, decides to go all in, purchased Aragorn and Gandalf, you know how long it took them to receive those? This line started in 2022 and who knows the year it’ll be upon completion.

I say all of that to say, no one fresh into this hobby will be comfortable with the lead times that InArt brings with their product.

They’ll think they’ve been robbed or even forget about the purchase and hobby altogether.
Two years, that’s a long time, and every release pushes that lead time so the only people completing lines are the ones who’ve been here already, not new people.

How easy is it to take a new random person off of the street and convince them to dedicate that much time and money into a company and line. It’s a simple concept, if you can get quality product out quickly, people will feel comfortable recommending your product, handing them to a select few people in hopes they’ll talk highly about them won’t bring new faithful customers.
Focus on keeping the customers you do have, happy.

Nick D said:

I see it as bragging because it’s sold out product,
it will always be sold out product they’re reviewing. Who is there left to influence?

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Omg, you really don’t see how there is no positive outcome? Like John said, it puts the product out on YouTube and leads to exposure for the brand. A newcomer would see the video and now knows about INART.

Nick D said:

Anyone currently in the hobby has found out about InArt. People new to the hobby are going to find themselves quickly out of it.

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The purpose of the video reviews isn’t primarily about the current people in the hobby, what? It’s about newcomers and the future potentials. Why are you speaking for these potentials? Not everyone is as entitled and impatient as you might assume they are. Either way, even if there are some who realize this ain’t for them and at least 1 person decides: “nah, I love this”, that’s a win for INART.

Nick D said:

Put yourself in their shoes, never ordered 1:6,
came across InArt’s LOTR line, decides to go all in, purchased Aragorn and Gandalf, you know how long it took them to receive those? This line started in 2022 and who knows the year it’ll be upon completion.

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See above. They’d also quickly learn that the waiting game is part of this hobby and if you’re allowed to speculate and talk for people whom you don’t know, allow me? I’d wager people would be like: “man, I know it’s going to be a long wait, but these things are awesome! Can’t wait to have these characters in hyperreal 1/6 form from a movie I loved watching when I was a kid!”

Nick D said:

I say all of that to say, no one fresh into this hobby will be comfortable with the lead times that InArt brings with their product.

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Again, why are you talking for others? Not everyone shares your mindset, you know. Hot Toys also take a while with their products as well, it’s something this newcomer would learn. I’m just repeating myself right now.

Nick D said:

They’ll think they’ve been robbed or even forget about the purchase and hobby altogether.
Two years, that’s a long time, and every release pushes that lead time so the only people completing lines are the ones who’ve been here already, not new people.

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Oh my, so you really are just speaking for others, huh? Lol. Not everyone is as unreasonable, impatient and entitled as you’re making them seem, I’m sorry. People tend to be more reasonable. In response to the last sentence here, again you should take into account and not underestimate people’s ability to be reasonable.

Nick D said:

How easy is it to take a new random person off of the street and convince them to dedicate that much time and money into a company and line. It’s a simple concept, if you can get quality product out quickly, people will feel comfortable recommending your product, handing them to a select few people in hopes they’ll talk highly about them won’t bring new faithful customers.
Focus on keeping the customers you do have, happy.

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I’m a broken record and beating a dead horse here, but you cannot assume the worst traits in newcomers. Then again, let’s say 10 people are introduced to INART and fine, let’s say the majority agree with your line of thinking and say: “**** this! I’m out”, but one or two persons stick around, guess what? INART still wins. It’s still a good thing for them. They just scored two more consumers/fans. It’s a process. It takes time. Imo, you really underestimate people and assume the worst of them for some reason. For the most part, this company is doing okay, and let’s not forget they’re backed by Queen Studios who also has a rolling batch system mind you, and they’re still around. INART will be fine, no matter how much some of you guys act like you’d run their business better. I’m not even saying they’re not deserving of criticism, they definitely warrant it to some extent, but the types of things you and others are losing your marbles over ain't it, imo.

Jesus, dude.

BoricuaHec01 said:

Jesus, dude.

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It’s simple stuff, imo.

You guys really like to talk a lot lol

I just wanted new pics of the figure

Getting bent out of shape over dolls. I’m just here waiting for invoices.

Well if their batch system wasn’t the way it was, perhaps you’d see more photos.

People don’t want to speculate
any longer than they have to.

BoricuaHec01 said:

Getting bent out of shape over dolls. I’m just here waiting for invoices.

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Yeah well

Think I'm gonna display my Sups with the Knightmare League, flying with the angry hs and cowl in hand.

Gipetto0812 said:

that wouldn't work out too well due to the nature of how soft the seamless arms are. You wouldn't get the definition coming through the suit. This why Rovanic applies shading on top of the spandex suits when he uses the Phicen/TBLeague bodies. The musculature just doesn't come through well enough with those silicone bodies and for this character (and Batfleck), you need the muscles to be seen and seen well. Also, they'd most likely have to forgo the chrome and go with the silver/chrome paint instead. Regular chrome would most likely crack and flake off

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I wonder if a seamless body with the muscles capped with chrome pieces would be a nice middle ground.

T8OO said:

I wonder if a seamless body with the muscles capped with chrome pieces would be a nice middle ground.

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Could be Star Ace did something similar for their Homelander. They applied hard plastic ab pieces to the M34 muscle body they used to help them show through the costume. Obviously Star Ace is not the shining example of exemplary 1/6 figure making but it's the only current example that utilizes that sort of idea that I can think of.

Cap'n Cook said:

This thread is ******* hilarious.

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Don't worry, they'll do a 2.0 Soopormen right after their 2.0 JOKOR

DioramaMaker said:

Don't worry, they'll do a 2.0 Soopormen right after their 2.0 JOKOR

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Someone needs to make Man of Steel 2.0 while BvS movie appearance is great I think hairstyle doesn’t transfer well on the dolls.