The Penguin (The Batman) limited series | HBO Max

ironwez20 · Oct 22, 2024

I always hated when something that didn’t need to be explained gets explained in heavy detail. Just say he was scared of bats. That’s like saying Peter Parker’s great grandfather use to have spider like agility and that agility was passed onto Peter lol

Wor-Gar · Oct 22, 2024

They always seem to explain Bruce's fear of bats when he "discovers" the cave. So to have a long line of family "Bat fear" seems unnecessary.

Bleah · Oct 22, 2024

Wouldn't be surprised if Penguin kills or sacrifices Vic before the season ends.

Wor-Gar · Oct 22, 2024

Penguin's mother has to die.

Bleah · Oct 22, 2024

While for the most part I'm entertained, I'm having this one issue that the series is so grounded that if Batman shows up or if when Oswald is integrated back into the Batman sequels, either would just feel out of place.

Wor-Gar · Oct 22, 2024

Bleah said:
While for the most part I'm entertained, I'm having this one issue that the series is so grounded that if Batman shows up or if when Oswald is integrated back into the Batman sequels, either would just feel out of place.

Simple... we kill the Batman.

sj2106 · Oct 22, 2024

Wor-Gar said:
You need to have sympathy for Sofia because 1) she's going to die, and 2) Penguin IS a villain in the end.

Also, no villain starts as a villain, so its always interesting to see what corrupted them. Personally, I don't always need that -- but in a gray world, and when its done well, it can be fascinating.

Damn, I really hope not!

intothevoid · Oct 22, 2024

sj2106 said:
Damn, I really hope not!

Yeah I don’t see them killing her off anytime soon

Apparently she has a sizeable role to play in The Batman 2

Wor-Gar · Oct 22, 2024

intothevoid said:
Yeah I don’t see them killing her off anytime soon

Apparently she has a sizeable role to play in The Batman 2

Really? I thought she was created for this season. But yeah, as it develops, looks like she may represent the only other crime organization other than Penguin's so I guess they have to keep her.

Too bad. Hate to see her linger to the point of becoming uninteresting... but she will.

intothevoid · Oct 23, 2024

I think they’ll wrap her arc in the movie - and hopefully do it well.
But let’s see where the show leaves things

Wor-Gar · Oct 23, 2024

That sucks that they want to move her into a Batman movie with the Joker. Means she'll play some bit background part to the Joker and Bats.

I understand the whole "build-a-universe" nonsense but what a waste. If they have big plans for her in Season 2, OK, but I hope they don't stretch her too thin.

a-dev · Oct 23, 2024

Who knew Colin Farrell would be such a genius piece of casting as The Penguin. But he's the draw. I wouldn't have bothered watching otherwise given I've never been able to make it through the entire movie. This show is really good so far.

intothevoid · Oct 23, 2024

a-dev said:
Who knew Colin Farrell would be such a genius piece of casting as The Penguin. But he's the draw. I wouldn't have bothered watching otherwise given I've never been able to make it through the entire movie. This show is really good so far.

I rewatched The Batman before starting the series, and couldn’t remember watching the entire middle portion of the film - I guess I must have dozed off the only time I saw it at the cinema.

On the second watch I could appreciate it a lot more but still felt it was way too long and Pattison’s Batman nor Bruce Wayne characterisation doesn’t do much for me personally.

I find The Penguin way more engaging and watchable than then film was, so hopefully the sequel really ups the ante and we see a much more evolved version of Bruce / Batman

a-dev · Oct 23, 2024

intothevoid said:
I rewatched The Batman before starting the series, and couldn’t remember watching the entire middle portion of the film - I guess I must have dozed off the only time I saw it at the cinema.

On the second watch I could appreciate it a lot more but still felt it was way too long and Pattison’s Batman nor Bruce Wayne characterisation doesn’t do much for me personally.

I find The Penguin way more engaging and watchable than then film was, so hopefully the sequel really ups the ante and we see a much more evolved version of Bruce / Batman

I've never seen Batman catch the Riddler or anything after that. I tried multiple times - including about 2 months back - and just kept falling asleep. I only read that Gotham got flooded and went into this series hoping I'd gotten enough context from what I do remember seeing. I think I'm getting away with it.

chrisstbh · Oct 23, 2024

The Penguin canonically has Tiktok installed on his phone. The implications are huge.

intothevoid · Oct 23, 2024

a-dev said:
I've never seen Batman catch the Riddler or anything after that. I tried multiple times - including about 2 months back - and just kept falling asleep. I only read that Gotham got flooded and went into this series hoping I'd gotten enough context from what I do remember seeing. I think I'm getting away with it.

Batman being outthought, and outmanouvered by such a pansy ass Riddler really put me off to be honest. Pattinson Batman just comes across as an entitled angry child who hasn't put in any hard yards to train himself to undertake the magnitude of the mission he's taken on as Batman

Bleah · Oct 23, 2024

intothevoid said:
Batman being outthought, and outmanouvered by such a pansy ass Riddler really put me off to be honest. Pattinson Batman just comes across as an entitled angry child who hasn't put in any hard yards to train himself to undertake the magnitude of the mission he's taken on as Batman

It didn't portray Batman as a good detective. Riddler succeeded mostly with his plans with only 2 not going as he wanted because it directly involved Bruce/Batman which was somewhat circumstantial.

Nick D · Oct 23, 2024

intothevoid said:
Batman being outthought, and outmanouvered by such a pansy ass Riddler really put me off to be honest. Pattinson Batman just comes across as an entitled angry child who hasn't put in any hard yards to train himself to undertake the magnitude of the mission he's taken on as Batman

Exactly this.

You’re only as good as your villain, every time.
If the villain is weak, so too will the hero appear.

That version of Riddler should have never given Bruce that much of a run for his money, experienced or not.

I really hope they scrap this version of Joker for the sequel, can’t possibly see it turning out well with how bad J2 was.

Mandible · Oct 23, 2024

intothevoid said:
Batman being outthought, and outmanouvered by such a pansy ass Riddler really put me off to be honest. Pattinson Batman just comes across as an entitled angry child who hasn't put in any hard yards to train himself to undertake the magnitude of the mission he's taken on as Batman

Isn't that the whole point of the film? He starts off as "vengeance" (an angry entitled child) and realizes by the end that he has to become more, be better, lead by example.

I don't know the comics or canon or anything, but apparently this is based off his first year.

chrisstbh · Oct 23, 2024

Mandible said:
Isn't that the whole point of the film? He starts off as "vengeance" (an angry entitled child) and realizes by the end that he has to become more, be better, lead by example.

I don't know the comics or canon or anything, but apparently this is based off his first year.

That is the point of him. This is a young Batman. He’s only been doing it for 2 years and he’s still full of rage. Only at the end of the film does he understand what he needs to be for Gotham and its people going forward.

It’s as if people don’t understand the concept of character development anymore :lol

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