Captain America: The Winter Soldier 1/6th scale Captain America (Stealth S.T.R.I.K.E. Suit) 2.0

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Inart can’t even do 5/6 figures a year without having issues.
By the time they do 80+ figures a year I’m sure they’ll get a pass every now and then as well.:)
Also you keep insisting that Inart is great at costuming and details, but they have multiple figures with missing/wrong details in the costuming.

Anyway way back to this figure, sculpt is almost there. Some shots are excellent and some less so. Close ups seem puffy, maybe focal length? Might look better in hand. HT have released some pretty great sculpts recently so I have faith.
Look, I’m only strictly talking figure design and I personally don’t compare them in terms of output since they’re at a different stage. Of course, Hot Toys have figured it out, they’ve been around for 2 decades plus.

These are just my opinions and observations: in general, overall and despite the inaccuracies INART figures have, they do get more right with each respective design and nail more details, realism, natural proportions and tailoring, etc. They would do a better job with this Cap costume design, imo. INART figures make my Hot Toys figures look like more toy-ish.

Anyhoo.

I think the current prototype leaves a lot to be desired. With the unhelmeted sculpt, the hair could’ve been sculpted better to match the film. The costume in general has a lot of room for improvement.
 
Look, I’m only strictly talking figure design and I personally don’t compare them in terms of output since they’re at a different stage. Of course, Hot Toys have figured it out, they’ve been around for 2 decades plus.

These are just my opinions and observations: in general, overall and despite the inaccuracies INART figures have, they do get more right with each respective design and nail more details, realism, natural proportions and tailoring, etc. They would do a better job with this Cap costume design, imo. INART figures make my Hot Toys figures look like more toy-ish.

Anyhoo.

I think the current prototype leaves a lot to be desired. With the unhelmeted sculpt, the hair could’ve been sculpted better to match the film. The costume in general has a lot of room for improvement.
I think you and I will never agree on this whole inart v hot toys thing. And that’s fine.
But saying inart would automatically do a better job is just wrong. Since Inart had shown to not always be perfect(proportions included) and Hot toys have shown they can produce Inart level figures.(proportions included). So who knows which would be better.

Also I feel Inart and hot toys are two different things. Hot toys gives is a ton of figures for a mostly decent price with great to premium quality. Inart gives us 5/6 figures a year( at best) with premium quality at a slightly higher price. And yes even $20/$30 difference in figure price could make a difference at production level. That’s thousands of dollars extra in funds that can be used for extra quality. Thus Inart should be expected to be higher in quality. And that’s not always the case.

Aaaand back to topic.:)

The unhelmeted sculpt has potential and I think it will turn out fine. The hair sculpt is pretty spot on. Maybe looks a bit to thick, but that’s hard to replicate sculpted.( don’t get me started on Inart sculpted quality😂)
Suit could use some more filling in some places. But I think overal the details are there. Leather parts are a bit off. But overall looks like a great figure.
 
Batroc was wearing purple...?
Was a cool little nod in my opinion.

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Hot toys getting a pass? All I see is complaining

With the volume HT puts out, and the quality, depending, don't think HT needs a pass. Of the figs I own, I'm happy with them, and some are stellar from the engineering of the Ultron Mark 1, to Doctor Strange, to Obi-Wan, to IW Bucky, to various Iron Mans, Mandalorian, Boba Fett etc. and those are just the ones I own. Plenty of quality costumes, to scale.

Who's to say anyway HT might pull an Obi and tweak the sculpt at the last minute - surprise :lol . Dunno whether to hope for that or not $$$$$ I gotta pay off an artisan SW and BW:monkey2; and the specter of an artisan Bucky/Nat looms $$$$.

Yeah, HT has had its issues from the pink panty Ironman to rotting rubber to a Batman suit oiling to cheaping out on accessories to pedestrian paint at times, but my worst HT problem is all the *&&^% batteries and light-ups. But I don't use those very often.
 
I think you and I will never agree on this whole inart v hot toys thing. And that’s fine.
But saying inart would automatically do a better job is just wrong. Since Inart had shown to not always be perfect(proportions included) and Hot toys have shown they can produce Inart level figures.(proportions included). So who knows which would be better.

Also I feel Inart and hot toys are two different things. Hot toys gives is a ton of figures for a mostly decent price with great to premium quality. Inart gives us 5/6 figures a year( at best) with premium quality at a slightly higher price. And yes even $20/$30 difference in figure price could make a difference at production level. That’s thousands of dollars extra in funds that can be used for extra quality. Thus Inart should be expected to be higher in quality. And that’s not always the case.

Aaaand back to topic.:)

The unhelmeted sculpt has potential and I think it will turn out fine. The hair sculpt is pretty spot on. Maybe looks a bit to thick, but that’s hard to replicate sculpted.( don’t get me started on Inart sculpted quality😂)
Suit could use some more filling in some places. But I think overal the details are there. Leather parts are a bit off. But overall looks like a great figure.
Tbf..while I don't agree with the way he's going about it.

He's not necessarily wrong. This Cap is very good imo. But it isn't what it should be, it is not a 10/10, that shouldn't be acceptable considering this is their 3rd attempt at doing this exact look. But we all (well most..) actively chooses to ignore them because we don't care enough. The obvious EG Chris Evans sculpt with adjusted TWS hair, to the improved but not great fitting/proportions of the costume. These are all things they are capable of doing better just as he pointed out.

I do think that if InArt did this, it would be better. Probably not by a significant margin, but it will definitely be better at certain aspects because so far IA seems to aim for 9/10 attention to detail rather than volume...whereas HT airms for 6-7/10 attention to detail (just right) and also volume.
 
I really don't get the EG sculpt conspiracy. We can argue the likeness, but it's very clearly a new sculpt. It looks similar because it's the same actor and the same character, nothing more.
 
Tbf..while I don't agree with the way he's going about it.

He's not necessarily wrong. This Cap is very good imo. But it isn't what it should be, it is not a 10/10, that shouldn't be acceptable considering this is their 3rd attempt at doing this exact look. But we all (well most..) actively chooses to ignore them because we don't care enough. The obvious EG Chris Evans sculpt with adjusted TWS hair, to the improved but not great fitting/proportions of the costume. These are all things they are capable of doing better just as he pointed out.

I do think that if InArt did this, it would be better. Probably not by a significant margin, but it will definitely be better at certain aspects because so far IA seems to aim for 9/10 attention to detail rather than volume...whereas HT airms for 6-7/10 attention to detail (just right) and also volume.
I’m not saying this is a perfect figure. Looks like a solid 8 for me. But that’s subjective.
But there is no guarantee that Inart nails this. And acting like it is, that’s what gets me. Other than Gandalf their sculpts, while very good, aren’t perfect in likeness. Who says they can do a Chris Evans sculpt better. Even customs struggle with his likeness. Just like with Keanu and a few others. And like I said Inart costumes have wrong/missing details as well. So maybe they get it wrong. Just saying it’s definitely not certain they do better.

And yes I agree on the quality and quantity argument. But some hot toys figures are 9 or 10 and some Inart figures are a 8 or 9. So where does that leave us. It’s a never ending discussion and they both have the potential to create better figures than the other.

I don’t want to keep this going on longer then needed so let’s get back to talking about the subject at hand. I would love a 2.0 first avenger suit if they do go back into this line. I love beginning, middle and ending displays for my favorite movie properties. So tfa, winter soldier and endgame cap would be a great line up for me.
 
I really don't get the EG sculpt conspiracy. We can argue the likeness, but it's very clearly a new sculpt. It looks similar because it's the same actor and the same character, nothing more.
EG sculpt here meaning they sculpted and based it off of his appearance in Endgame, where Evans was older and a bit more bloated around his face. The likeness itself is not accurate to The Winter Soldier(other than the hair). But anyone saying this doesn't look like Chris Evans at all is just blasphemy.
 
I think you and I will never agree on this whole inart v hot toys thing. And that’s fine.
But saying inart would automatically do a better job is just wrong. Since Inart had shown to not always be perfect(proportions included) and Hot toys have shown they can produce Inart level figures.(proportions included). So who knows which would be better.
Lol, yes we’ll agree to disagree. But INART > Hot Toys imo. I never said INART is perfect btw. I said they get things more right.
Also I feel Inart and hot toys are two different things. Hot toys gives is a ton of figures for a mostly decent price with great to premium quality. Inart gives us 5/6 figures a year( at best) with premium quality at a slightly higher price. And yes even $20/$30 difference in figure price could make a difference at production level. That’s thousands of dollars extra in funds that can be used for extra quality. Thus Inart should be expected to be higher in quality. And that’s not always the case.
Yes, they’re completely different and they need to streamline their QC. They’re 3 years in. But if I can add an analogy, It’s like a new small chain steakhouse on the block working out the kinks vs a behemoth in McDonald’s….lol. And McDonald’s is incredibly successful btw.
Aaaand back to topic.:)
I imagine we’ll keep going in circles.
The unhelmeted sculpt has potential and I think it will turn out fine. The hair sculpt is pretty spot on. Maybe looks a bit to thick, but that’s hard to replicate sculpted.( don’t get me started on Inart sculpted quality😂)
Suit could use some more filling in some places. But I think overal the details are there. Leather parts are a bit off. But overall looks like a great figure.
It looks good for a typical Hot Toys standard figure, yes, but it could’ve been better – all I’m saying... the hair isn’t spot on, imo with reference to source material. Lots of excess material around the biceps and he has no neck. Belt can be adjusted since Hot Toys positioned it way too high. Overall, what we see is what we’ll get and it’s whatever. I’ve come to accept that Hot Toys figures. I’ll still enjoy it if I end up getting it. What I really want is a Civil War Cap 2.0. They can lazily reuse the sculpt which would work best for that since the sculpt is aged up.

Goes without saying, but I enjoy my Hot Toys, love them. Some of my favorite figures are Hot Toys. But INART is better. IMO
 
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I don't know man..some angles I see him but most of it I don't...perhaps bad lighting?

 
I think it's safe to say that if you're not sold on the sculpt, ideal conditions aren't gonna change your opinion much... but yeah, that lighting is pretty bad. Look at the way it completely washes out the left half of the face, while casting deep shadows in the recesses on the right.
 
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