1/6 Hot Toys - MMS647 - Episode II: Attack of The Clones - Shiny Clone Trooper

[Fr0stbit3]

share some pictures, reference or some sources

Animated DC15 - File:Dc15a Animated.jpg - Databank

Realistic DC15 - File:DC15 rifle.jpg - Databank

The fact OP thinks the hot toys one resembles the animated blaster tells me he has no idea what he’s talking about.

 

[jaztermareal]

ok, now I am sure you are trolling!


edit: I love that you used inaccurate fan made props while completely straw-manning my argument. Hilarious!

 

[Fr0stbit3]

everything in the cartoon is hyper stylised, but that hyper stylised weapon was adapted from the unused realistic prop and that realistic prop became the default official realistic depiction Clone Wars rifle in all toys/media, distinct from the actual movie weapons.

So the basis of your argument is unused concept art of something that was never actually seen or used. Got it

 

[Fr0stbit3]

he won't, he didn't back up anything over on Reddit either. he just says " I'm 501st, I know you are wrong" then blocks you before he then gets downvoted into oblivion by everyone

I have. But you have chosen not to accept it

 

[Fr0stbit3]

ok, now I am sure you are trolling!


edit: I love that you used inaccurate fan made props while completely straw-manning my argument. Hilarious!

“Inaccurate fanmade props” that are* approved by lucasfilm to represent their characters.

Please keep it up.

 

[jaztermareal]

So the basis of your argument is unused concept art of something that was never actually seen or used. Got it

concept model wasn't unused... it is the official realistic look for clone wars weapon as used by all the toy companies including HT on their clone wars figures and was adapted to animated style for cartoons. HT just couldnt be bothered to make movie versions for their movie figures

also, you wrote: “Inaccurate fanmade props that approved by lucasfilm to represent their characters."

I used the actual LFL props/screenshots.

 

[Raleig.h]

I have provided you with evidence that says you are wrong

Well, cant argue with that.

 

[Fr0stbit3]

concept model wasn't unused... it is the official realistic look for clone wars weapon as used by all the toy companies including HT on their clone wars figures and was adapted to animated style for cartoons. HT just couldnt be bothered to make movie versions for their movie figures

also, you wrote: “Inaccurate fanmade props that approved by lucasfilm to represent their characters."

I used the actual LFL props/screenshots.

I don’t know what to tell you anymore. The weapons the hot toys clones have is clearly not the same ones used in the animated show. I don’t understand why you keep insisting they are “animated” props. It’s clear to me you have no idea what you are talking about. You think you have a “GOTCHA” with me but I’m just shaking my head at how dumb all your comments are.

You’re wrong. You can keep trying to gaslight but it ain’t gonna work. This is why I blocked you on Reddit because you became annoying.

 

[MyenShi]

I don’t know what to tell you anymore. The weapons the hot toys clones have is clearly not the same ones used in the animated show. I don’t understand why you keep insisting they are “animated” props. It’s clear to me you have no idea what you are talking about. You think you have a “GOTCHA” with me but I’m just shaking my head at how dumb all your comments are.

You’re wrong. You can keep trying to gaslight but it ain’t gonna work. This is why I blocked you on Reddit because you became annoying.

This back and forth is kind of getting out of hand. I'm not personally bothered by the blaster and I'm not taking sides, but it feels like there's a misunderstanding and you guys are arguing along two slightly different avenues.

I believe @jaztermareal is saying there are three types of rifles:

1. Film Realistic
2. Animated Stylized
3. Animated Realistic

It seems like you are saying the 1 and 2 don't look the same which of course they don't, no one is debating that.

The point is that the Hot Toys blaster is neither 1 or 2. It's not fully accurate to the film version, nor is it the heavily stylized animated version.

Hot Toys and the film realistic DC-15 from the 501st CRL:

It does seem to most closely resemble a realistic version of the animated rifle.

If you don't agree with that then that's fine. I would just agree to disagree between the two of you because it's clear it's gotten a bit more personal than it has to.

 

[Ramatuelle]

This thread is like:

 

[Ramatuelle]

But seriously, this is a super cool luchador mask, if I was a luchador I'd wear something like this.

idk if this is the Clone Wars version, may be incorrect.

 

[Fr0stbit3]

This back and forth is kind of getting out of hand. I'm not personally bothered by the blaster and I'm not taking sides, but it feels like there's a misunderstanding and you guys are arguing along two slightly different avenues.

I believe @jaztermareal is saying there are three types of rifles:

1. Film Realistic
2. Animated Stylized
3. Animated Realistic

It seems like you are saying the 1 and 2 don't look the same which of course they don't, no one is debating that.

The point is that the Hot Toys blaster is neither 1 or 2. It's not fully accurate to the film version, nor is it the heavily stylized animated version.

Hot Toys and the film realistic DC-15 from the 501st CRL:

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It does seem to most closely resemble a realistic version of the animated rifle.

If you don't agree with that then that's fine. I would just agree to disagree between the two of you because it's clear it's gotten a bit more personal than it has to.

This whole concept that the blaster are “realistic versions of the animated blasters” is utterly ridiculous to begin with.

It’s either animated, or realistic.

 

[fatmarco]

It's a real shame they didn't fix the mouth on the Phase 1. It's made more annoying by the fact that the Clone Pilot sculpt has it correct too (or at least, more correct).

 

[jaztermareal]

This back and forth is kind of getting out of hand. I'm not personally bothered by the blaster and I'm not taking sides, but it feels like there's a misunderstanding and you guys are arguing along two slightly different avenues.

I believe @jaztermareal is saying there are three types of rifles:

1. Film Realistic
2. Animated Stylized
3. Animated Realistic

It seems like you are saying the 1 and 2 don't look the same which of course they don't, no one is debating that.

The point is that the Hot Toys blaster is neither 1 or 2. It's not fully accurate to the film version, nor is it the heavily stylized animated version.

Hot Toys and the film realistic DC-15 from the 501st CRL:

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View attachment 626005

It does seem to most closely resemble a realistic version of the animated rifle.

If you don't agree with that then that's fine. I would just agree to disagree between the two of you because it's clear it's gotten a bit more personal than it has to.

Thanks for weighing in with a neutral response. I did actually make such a breakdown back on Reddit clearly defining the 3 versions and my argument and then his argument.glad you did it here as I really didn't want to make such a post again

 

[Fr0stbit3]

This back and forth is kind of getting out of hand. I'm not personally bothered by the blaster and I'm not taking sides, but it feels like there's a misunderstanding and you guys are arguing along two slightly different avenues.

I believe @jaztermareal is saying there are three types of rifles:

1. Film Realistic
2. Animated Stylized
3. Animated Realistic

It seems like you are saying the 1 and 2 don't look the same which of course they don't, no one is debating that.

The point is that the Hot Toys blaster is neither 1 or 2. It's not fully accurate to the film version, nor is it the heavily stylized animated version.

Hot Toys and the film realistic DC-15 from the 501st CRL:

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View attachment 626005

The Hot Toys version is not accurate to the realistic film version. I think we can agree on that visually.

It does seem to resemble a realistic version of the animated rifle. If you don't agree with that then that's fine.

I would just agree to disagree between the two of you because it's clear it's gotten a bit more personal than it has to.

Is this blaster that Deviss is holding an “animated realistic” blaster?

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/CT-65/91-6210?file=CC-1.jpg
It strongly resembles the ones that Hot Toys, Sideshow, Gentle Giant etc use with their figures.

 

[jaztermareal]

It's a real shame they didn't fix the mouth on the Phase 1. It's made more annoying by the fact that the Clone Pilot sculpt has it correct too (or at least, more correct).

The Clone pilot helmet looks good, as does the General Obiwan helmet.

 

[jaztermareal]

Is this blaster that Deviss is holding an “animated realistic” blaster?

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/CT-65/91-6210?file=CC-1.jpg
It strongly resembles the ones that Hot Toys, Sideshow, Gentle Giant etc use with their figures.

That would be this:


Edit: official prop of movie rifle (same sculpt/design)

 

[Fr0stbit3]

Thanks for weighing in with a neutral response. I did actually make such a breakdown back on Reddit clearly defining the 3 versions and my argument and then his argument.glad you did it here as I really didn't want to make such a post again

I tried to have a discussion with you on Reddit about this. I have provided evidence to support my side that you have elected to ignore. And now you have this cocky attitude “hahaha you got downvoted hurrr durr” as if that makes you right when you’re wrong.

At the end of the day you are wrong. Doesn’t matter how many people agree with you because those people are wrong too. Simple as that.

Have a good night

 

[Fr0stbit3]

That would be this:

That would be this:

“You can’t use a fan made prop”

 

[jaztermareal]

You have a good night too