Alert: Sideshow more recasts on ebay.

[toystales]

This is ridiculous! By blatantly flouting the copyright rules, they are making a joke of the Edition Size!! I guess from now on, we can all forget about the ES posted because there are definitely many more of the same figures everywhere!

As they are based in China, I seriously doubt that Sideshow can do much to stop them. China is not known to be an active supporter of copyright laws!

 

[toystales]

Sorry for the double post but to add on to my earlier post, it may also explain why during my recent trip to Hong Kong, I am seeing Sideshow's Star Wars 12-inch figures selling at around $20!

 

[LipSmack]

I think thats why Sideshow abandonned the Marvel comiquette line...its too easy to recast..while their PF is too difficult to reproduce by simple recaster.

who said they abbandoned it?
they have a rogue coming out soon

 

[carbo-fation]

who said they abbandoned it?
they have a rogue coming out soon

Rogue is part of the Adam Hughes line-up. Only six comiquettes will be produced from that line. Shai was referring to the regular Marvel comiquette line. There hasn't been a new release in good two years.

 

[LipSmack]

Rogue is part of the Adam Hughes line-up. Only six comiquettes will be produced from that line. Shai was referring to the regular Marvel comiquette line. There hasn't been a new release in good two years.

Oh ok i understand now, haha sorry for the confusion

 

[Man_of_Resin]

Try this, we just received this email yesterday

Hello sir​

We are GK studio in China.We can manufacture various resin figure and PVC figure and statues.and we can accept custom-made figure and statues. ​

Now we have some statues in stock.​

The statues detail information as below:​

1.Iron Man Sideshow Exclusive Edition wholesale price:USD285.00 the minimum order is 5pcs

2. Hulk VS Spider-Man Polystone Dioramawholesale price:USD315.00 the minimum order is 5pcs​

3. CLEAR ICEMAN VARIANT STATUE BOWEN DESIGNS ONLY 300 MADEwholesale price is USD285.00 minimum order is 5 pcs.​

4.Spider-Woman 1/1 Scale Bust Upper Deck Authenticated
wholesale price : USD 255.00the minimum order is 5pcs.
5.Halo3 master chiefwholesale price: USD 47.00 the minimum order is 5pcs

6. the resident evil tyrant statues limited edition wholesale price is USD 65.00 minimum order is 5pcs​

If you need it,please contact me as soon as possible.​

Thank you and best regards​

Kevin Yang​

Wow, is this for real? (rhetorical question)
The people who are selling these 'fakes', I cannot help but wonder, are these the factory workers that somehow got the mold of the originals or they got hold of the factory rejects and/or returns. I remember early on with the Sideshow IM comiquette, these sellers had the IM statue PLUS the full color box. As I mention in statueforum, it is a LOT to go through to 'fake' the color box with all the decals and stickers. My guess back then, was that these are the factory rejects/returns that someone at the factory got hold of one way or another. But to see the above list include the Bowen clear Iceman statue is an eye opener. Now if only they offered the Bowen Chrome Silver Surfer bust

 

[LipSmack]

I think thats why Sideshow abandonned the Marvel comiquette line...its too easy to recast..while their PF is too difficult to reproduce by simple recaster.

and its Back!, https://www.sideshowtoy.com/?page_id=5149

 

[thenammagazine]

I've reported this auction. Remember, ebay does not police itself, it is our job as buyers/sellers to report auctions and sellers.

Here's how:

Go to the auction
Go to the very bottom of the page and click "Report this Item"
Choose "Counterfeit and copyright violations"
Choose "Potential trademark infringement"
Choose "Other replica or counterfeit items"
Click "Continue"
IMPORTANT- Now you must click "Email us" under Contact Customer Support
You may need to log in to ebay here if you aren't already
The item number will already be filled in so just hit "Send"
Thats it!

Do this on every item you see that is fake and we can make a difference. The more people who do this the better chance it will be taken down.

You'll need to follow the above instructions (as posted on the 1st page of this thread - thanks Shropt) to report these items. With the amount of auctions on ebaY, it's literally impossible for them to check everything. Just do a search for 12" action figure and check out the naked models that come up. So it's up to us to report it to ebaY. They'll take the necessary steps if they get the reports in time.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

I think this guy on eBay sums up recasts rather nicely...

https://reviews.ebay.com/Identifyin...000000950749?ssPageName=BUYGD:CAT:-1:SEARCH:6

Building and painting model kits is a very fun and rewarding hobby. However, there are some people out there that are potentially ruining the hobby as we know it. "Recasting" has become more prevalent as production technology gets cheaper, and in turn, recasters are putting the companies that work hard to make the kits you enjoy out of business.

"Recasting" a model kits is essentially piracy; the recaster in question will buy a model kit or statue, and re-cast the pieces of it. They are able to offer much cheaper kits and statues, but at a severe cost to the buyer.

So if you can buy a recast model kit cheaper, why wouldn't you? Well, there are several reasons. The first is that several companies own licenses to the heroes, action stars, and other copyrighted material that we know and love. Companies pay for the licenses, and then sell the product. If they are being illegally undercut, they will cease functioning, and in turn, will not be able to produce any more model kits. Horizon is one such company. They owned several licenses, including Marvel super heroes, and have since gone out of business as recasters continue to pirate their work. Because of that, Marvel model kits are harder to find.

Another reason is quality. A large company has the funds to make the best possible casts of an item, while some guy in his basement simply does not. Have you ever made a photocopy? That's essentially what a model kit is. A master kit is made, and the models you buy are molded and cast from that. Have you ever made a copy of a copy? The quality just isn't as high, and you lose some detail from the original. The same is true with model kits. Recasters essentially make a copy of a copy, and in turn, the joints don't fit as well, and you tend to lose fine details. Also, the quality of materials is not as good, and usually more brittle and easy to break than regular kits.

Finally, its just immoral to support recasters. They do not respect the original artists who put their time, money, and effort into their sculptures. While saving a few dollars purchasing a recast, you are helping to put the sculptors out of business and prevent any future sculpts from them. You are also very possibly going to get missing/damaged pieces with no customer service to help, paying an exhorbitant amount for shipping, and basically putting money into the pockets of the people that would destroy the hobby for a few bucks.

So, how do you identify a recast? Its definitely hard at first, but once you know what to look for, you'll be able to spot them. When reading an auction, look for warning signs. Does the seller tell you the name of the PRODUCER of the kit? Does the kits come with the ORIGINAL box and/or instructions, or is the seller just putting it in a ziplock bag and shipping it? Does the seller have any actual pictures of the kit, or just a scanned picture of the front of the box? Does the material look funny (wrong color, lots of "flash" pieces hanging off the kit, air bubbles, misshapen pieces, etc)? Does the seller have a Buy It Now price well below most everybody else's? Is this model kit offered as a statuette anywhere else on Ebay? Finally, is the seller local, or overseas(while this is NOT a tell tale recast sign, many Asian countries do not have and laws protecting copyrights, and in turn, its easier to pirate things from these countries)? If the answer to any of these is "no," you should have red flags raised in your mind.

If you think you are about to bid on a recast, then do some research first. Find out the actual kit producer's name and web address, and contact him/her. Ask about the above questions (how many pieces did it come with, was the kit numbered, what color were the pieces originally, etc). Find out if anybody else is offering the same kit, and compare them. Most companies release only one version of a kit, and if one looks different, then chances are, one is a recast. Most recasters prey off of lack of knowledge. Do yourself a favor, and educate yourself, and buy original model kits only to keep the hobby growing, and piracy at bay!