Aliens Movie Question

[buzzybean]

I was watching ALIENS last night on FCM and saw something I hadn't noticed before. When Ripley, Gordon and Burke were helping navigate the marines through the processing station via closed circuit television, the marines come upon the cocoon formations. Someone asks Ripley what it is and she says, "I don't know". She hadn't seen these coccoon walls before in the original ALIEN so she had no idea, right? But with the inclusion of the special footage added to ALIEN where she roasts the entombed Dallas, she would have later recognized these right? Just wondering...It sure took me a long time to notice this!

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[Zoolander]

yeh but the extra footage is not canon as it never took place in the final released movie

 

[laudel7]

What zoolander said.

 

[-Super Hans-]

What zoolander said.

what laudel said

 

[Rugby1970]

yeh but the extra footage is not canon as it never took place in the final released movie

Yep. The reproduction cycle of the Alien in the deleted scene is different from the rest of the series. It's not canon so in the "Aliens" world Ripley never saw the cocoon process.

 

[BadMoon]

what laudel said

what slimeyslug said

 

[buzzybean]

Yep. The reproduction cycle of the Alien in the deleted scene is different from the rest of the series. It's not canon so in the "Aliens" world Ripley never saw the cocoon process.

I'll have to watch the deleted scene again. All I remember is Dallas getting fried. What is this "reproduction cycle" discrepancy you speak of?

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[nicky]

The Alien turned Brett into an egg and Dallas into a host for the facehugger from that egg. That kinda fooks up the idea of an Alien Queen generating an egg herself instead of an alien making an egg out of a person (Brett).

 

[Reinhardt]

what everyone said. if the scene WAS cannon, then there would be no alien Queen!

oh wait... what nicky said.

 

[abake]

Actually...

Well, I don't hold the Alien DC to be canon, but!
1. In her anxious state I doubt Ripley would have payed much attention to the environment surrounding her other than what she could see of Dallas and what he tells her. Besides, it was dark. Besides, 57 years in hypersleep could've screwed her memory a bit.
2. The stuff built in the alien's lair within the Nostromo was quite different from the hive built in the atmosphere processor.

 

[buzzybean]

Of course!

What they all said!

 

[uscmhicks]

Of course!

What they all said!

what he said.

 

[furystorm]

Well, personally...

I always thought (once I discovered the deleted footage in Alien) that the singular Alien was simply attempting to carry on its species by creating the egg host situation with Brett and Dallas. I think a queen reproduction cycle can be augmented by the ability of worker drones, if you will, to be able to continue the life cycle in the absence of a queen, thereby creating new hives. I've seen similar life cycles on Discovery Channel or Nat Geo, and the like pertaining to bees, ants, and other insect type creatures. Sounds totally plausible to me anyway.

my two cents...

 

[Lord Aykroyd]

Well, personally...

I always thought (once I discovered the deleted footage in Alien) that the singular Alien was simply attempting to carry on its species by creating the egg host situation with Brett and Dallas. I think a queen reproduction cycle can be augmented by the ability of worker drones, if you will, to be able to continue the life cycle in the absence of a queen, thereby creating new hives. I've seen similar life cycles on Discovery Channel or Nat Geo, and the like pertaining to bees, ants, and other insect type creatures. Sounds totally plausible to me anyway.

my two cents...

What he said

 

[nicky]

What they said.

 

[furystorm]

What I said...

:emperor

 

[-Super Hans-]

Well, personally...

I always thought (once I discovered the deleted footage in Alien) that the singular Alien was simply attempting to carry on its species by creating the egg host situation with Brett and Dallas. I think a queen reproduction cycle can be augmented by the ability of worker drones, if you will, to be able to continue the life cycle in the absence of a queen, thereby creating new hives. I've seen similar life cycles on Discovery Channel or Nat Geo, and the like pertaining to bees, ants, and other insect type creatures. Sounds totally plausible to me anyway.

my two cents...

i believe ants and bees are indeed capable of doing this.

 

[Zoolander]

What I originally said

 

[CelticPredator]

I count all Special editions canon. They ARE the movies after all. Besides, it totally makes sense. Alien caccones a person into a queen, and whallah! Not vomiting babies down pregger woman's throats. blah.

And the Egg cacoon is very different then the Aliens Caccon....so...

 

[Nekita]

i believe ants and bees are indeed capable of doing this.

Interesting, I didn't know that. That would make the Alien species even more deadly/resistant.