Aliens,Predator and Terminator Q&A (Anything!)

[Sabres21768]

Um...ok...but they're still cool looking.

 

[Blackhole]

Chronologically speaking, could we ever come to except a T-900 in the Terminator saga?

One makes a cameo in the background in T3, and I wouldn't mind seeing them in action...

 

[EndIessRAlN]

They look cool, yes, but I see them from a believability stand point. There is no logic to them if you put T:S into real life. Giant humanoid robots with rubber masks are completely impractical for the job they were designed for. They can't sneak up on anybody. They only look human from a block away. They carry weapons too large for a real man to handle, especially with one hand. And as Hunter Killers, they are completely insufficient compared to tanks and flying machines. As depicted, their design makes no sense.

"The Terminator is an infiltration unit (humanoid design meant to allow them to get inside human hideouts)....The 600 series had rubber skin (not masks) we spotted them easy (primative version of the human disguise that still looked fake), but these (800s) are new; they look human (cyborgs)."

What Kyle was describing regarding the 600s was a rubber skinned (and therefor less refined) version of the Terminator, infiltration unit machines. The machine part and its function were essentially the same thing in the 600s and 800s.

Yes, Stan Winston made them, but it was McG's interpretation of what a more primative 600 is that messed up the believability. There is no reason for it to look human if it will never be passable as human, and that big and that strong, and especially walking around that torn up looking makes them completely counter-intuitive for their purpose.

If we were talking in person and if you had boobs I would have heard nothing and just stared at your boobs the whole time.

 

[EndIessRAlN]

Um...ok...but they're still cool looking.

Second that! LoL. I'm trying not to make too much sense of stuff. A great design is a great design. Everyone knows that T-3 and T:S or anything non-Cameron is never gonna satisfy any hardcore fan but hey the T-600 design is so damn awesome looking. Logical? I could care less at this point. I got 3 of these HT bad boys in my detolf and I couldn't be happier.

 

[tylerdurden]

i actually think the hot toys t600 looks cooler than the movie version. does that make any sense? probably not, but who cares! the figure rocks!

 

[SilentSurfer]

If we were talking in person and if you had boobs I would have heard nothing and just stared at your boobs the whole time.

*runs and hides in terror*

One makes a cameo in the background in T3, and I wouldn't mind seeing them in action...

Wow! Do you have a better picture of that? I always liked the T-X, and I've seen the game versions of the 900s, but that looks kinda cool. I'd love to see more. Interesting that it lights up blue and not red like the game.

 

[Blackhole]

Wow! Do you have a better picture of that? I always liked the T-X, and I've seen the game versions of the 900s, but that looks kinda cool. I'd love to see more. Interesting that it lights up blue and not red like the game.

They light up Yellow and Green too, but it's only a prototype...

That's not actually bigger, but that's where it is in the film...

If someone has the T3 Blu-Ray (is there one?) they can take a screen-cap...

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

I would like to see a T-900 in a film. Maybe just at the end of like T-5 in a lab complex or soemthing.

 

[FACEBOX]

Looking at this picture, this is the 1st time it occurred to me.
I wonder if the dome is the main reason why aliens can survive for an undetermined amount of time in a vacuum (or under water).

It looks just like a built in astronaut's helmet/visor.
All the alien has to do is breath the air trapped inside the dome. Meaning, what we think are it's brains are really some sort of lungs and sensory organ.

Note that the aliens born on planetoids or oxygen rich environment (ALIENS and AVP:R) did not need the dome, so they're the ones with the rigid heads.
I know this argument contradicts itself when you think of A3 and AVP.
However, we don't know if the air quality or temperature at Fury 161 and the Antarctic had something to do with them keeping their transparent domes.

What do you think?

 

[Toni Plutonij]

Sounds like a pretty good and interesting theory to me, tho we know that movies after first one removed the dome for the "coolness" factor, and just because they (mostly Cameron and Winston) liked the look of it..

 

[FACEBOX]

Sounds like a pretty good and interesting theory to me, tho we know that movies after first one removed the dome for the "coolness" factor, and just because they (mostly Cameron and Winston) liked the look of it..

That's true.
Personally, I'd like to think that there's a logical explanation for it in terms of the alien's "biology".

 

[SilentSurfer]

I fully accept and endorse that line of reasoning. I love it. Nicely done. I'm sure that's what the dome was supposed to reflect in Giger's original design, but I doubt there was any real logic to it after that.

They light up Yellow and Green too, but it's only a prototype...

Can't believe I missed that. I must have been cringing too much watching T3 to notice it. Fascinating. It really seems like they had so much potential in T3, but no story, just a two hour chase scene.

 

[Blackhole]

The best part of T3 is the end, which I think makes up for pretty much the rest of the film...

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

The best part of T3 is the end, which I think makes up for pretty much the rest of the film...

True, the ending was very T-2 reminisant! in a good way! Quite a neat clean ending

 

[EndIessRAlN]

Ohhh I really like that dome theory too. Well if you think about the domes in AVP, they didn't look like the see through clean smokey domes the original had. They were just black and round. And they bled right through it. I always just thought that they were drones compared to the warriors in Aliens and AVPR. And the eggs is Alien and the Queens in AVP have been kept in stasis for God knows how long so maybe they're a former generation or warriors?

I liked the ending to T3 also. Always room for global wide destruction in movies.

 

[MANDO]

The end was probably my favorite part of T3. I don't mean because it was over but just the way it was handled. Sort of bittersweet in that they lived but Judgement Day was coming no matter what.

I could've done without all the needless gags they kept doing with Arnold ("talk to the hand", the star glasses, etc.) and Stahl is just terrible.

 

[tylerdurden]

well, the alien dome = astronaut helmet theory would be pretty consistent with giger's concept of biomechanoids. a fusion of organic and mechanical forms.

personally, i never really liked cameron's re-interpretation of the alien head. simply because the translucent alien dome was so unique, elegant and subtle. then again, subtlety has never been cameron's defining attribute, eh...

 

[EndIessRAlN]

Stahl is just terrible.

Can't agree more. Dunno why they hired him. LoL. Get Furlong to come back. He needs the money.

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

Can't agree more. Dunno why they hired him. LoL. Get Furlong to come back. He needs the money.

Yes he does! Hmmmmm, what has he been in lately? Oh thats right, nothing

 

[EndIessRAlN]

Yes he does! Hmmmmm, what has he been in lately? Oh thats right, nothing

I know he was the 4th crow. LoL. Did anyone see that? With Tara Reid and David Boreanaz. It was pretty terrible. Maybe a bit more than pretty terrible. Like beyond terrible.