Aliens,Predator and Terminator Q&A (Anything!)

[Toni Plutonij]

The Aliens without the skull are much scarier, no eyes....is more "alien" then something with eyes.

I still find it scarier to see the skull without the eyes! I find that more "freaky" then something that has no reference to it's host.

When I see alien without the dome, it basically looks like an unknown creature, while alien with the dome (and skull) appears to have that something "human-a-like" and it's simply more frightening to see and imagine that it actually evolved partially from human!

Of course, this is only my opinion! I always kinda liked original Giger Alien more then Cameron/Winston version of Alien.

 

[siquisiri]

I still find it scarier to see the skull without the eyes! I find that more "freaky" then something that has no reference to it's host.

When I see alien without the dome, it basically looks like an unknown creature, while alien with the dome (and skull) appears to have that something "human-a-like" and it's simply more frightening to see and imagine that it actually evolved partially from human!

Of course, this is only my opinion! I always kinda liked original Giger Alien more then Cameron/Winston version of Alien.

I agree. The skull under the dome gives it a sinister appearence. (the available production pics without the dome are my favorites) Iwonder what it would have looked like had they used one of Geigers ideas and put movin maggots under the dome!

 

[FACEBOX]

The Aliens without the skull are much scarier, no eyes....is more "alien" then something with eyes.

I'm with you.
No eyes evokes more insecurities IMO, because you never know where or what it's looking at. "Did it see me? It looked it this direction, but maybe it missed me."

Also, like you said....not EVERYTHING needs eyes.

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

I agree. The skull under the dome gives it a sinister appearence. (the available production pics without the dome are my favorites) Iwonder what it would have looked like had they used one of Geigers ideas and put movin maggots under the dome!

The poor actor If they had done it would have looked cool but the actor would have to be some maggot lover to go through with it.

 

[CelticPredator]

Something I just noticed by watching Predator2:

Humans now have a P2 Bio-helmet, 2 plasma casters (one from AVP-R, the other from P2), a P2 spear, a piece of the left gauntlet, and P2's left hand.

Who knows if they found anything left behind from Predator 1. (like the ship/ drop pod)

I'd say "we" sure have a lot of predator technology to experiment on and reverse engineer.
It shouldn't be too much longer before Preds don't pose a threat to humans anymore.

We do not own the Plasma Casters from AvP-R...because AvP-R doesnt exist.

 

[CelticPredator]

The Aliens without the skull are much scarier, no eyes....is more "alien" then something with eyes.

Yes, and no. Honestly, I grew up with the Alien. And I saw Alien Res when I was 7 or so....the Newborn scared the everloving ____ out of me. It was totally the eyes.

It doesnt scare me any more...but it kinda gives me the willies still.

 

[a-dev]

I already know the answer(s) to this but I just thought I'd put this out there:

Why didn't the T-1000 remove the T-800s chip and destroy it when he had the chance (in the steel mill) so as to stop his pesky interferances?

It has the same files as the T-800 and presumably would know how to do it. It could fashion a tool out of its hand, open up the hatch, 'remove the shock dampening assembly' and hasta la vista T-800s chip. T-1000 is now free to carry out its mission without having to be bothered by a rival Terminator.

 

[SilentSurfer]

You probably know this answer is coming, but here's my take.

The T-1000, like the T-800, knows it is a more advanced Terminator. It is not afraid of the 800. The 800 is really only slowing it down, as far as it's concerned.

True, it would have known about the reboot to alternate power source, but as long as the 800 was down for the 9 count, the 1000 probably figured its best chance for success was to go after the badly wounded, and slow moving Sarah or pretend to be her to lure John while it had the chance. Wasting time to remove the chip might have added up to increased likelihood of losing track of the Connors.

The other answer of course is that Cameron wanted the audiences to believe the 800 was done and the Connors were on their own to create climactic tension before revealing the heroic moment the 'champion' rises again to carry on the fight.

 

[a-dev]

Yeah thats what I was thinking. Along with the fact that if the T-1000 removed the chip then that would have finished off the T-800 and it just wouldn't have been a great end. It needed a dramatic hero finale and the whole self sacrificing scene that followed.

It just popped into my head today while looking at my NECA figures and I like talking about this stuff so...

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

Bit late to the party on this one Thread resurrected though!

A question:

If the Resistance can reprogramme T-800's, can they reprogramme T-600's? I mean they would make good guards!

Also, what about HK's? Can they be hijacked and reprogrammed?

 

[SilentSurfer]

I suppose they could reprogram anything. And somewhere along the line it's entirely possible that they have done so to other machines. Connor did it to a Moto-HK.

I'd actually like to see a T-600 used as a guard. It'd be kinda like the ABC Robot from Judge Dredd.

All in all though, I think a Terminator would not allow itself to be taken in one piece, and capturing one would leave it in less than useful condition. My impression of the T2 T-800 was that it was taken from the factory, and the chip was reprogrammed before insertion.

The T-850 though is another matter. We know it was already active and had killed John in some future time, so it must have been captured, but maybe repaired and reskinned after it was brought down, which would not have been an option in the field.

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

The T-850 though is another matter. We know it was already active and had killed John in some future time, so it must have been captured, but maybe repaired and reskinned after it was brought down, which would not have been an option in the field.

A possible reason for his "changed" apperance in T-3 even though he was a T-101

I reckon there is a zip at the back

 

[Blackhole]

According to the books and comics that surround T3, it was wearing the 101 skin because of the emotional attachment John had to that particular model, although they may have made the skin look cleaner and more pristine, the same thing that happens to Marcus when he goes to the factory...

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

According to the books and comics that surround T3, it was wearing the 101 skin because of the emotional attachment John had to that particular model, although they may have made the skin look cleaner and more pristine, the same thing that happens to Marcus when he goes to the factory...

I know but my zip theory just makes more sense

 

[Blackhole]

I know but my zip theory just makes more sense

Yeah, maybe you should write the next film...sounds better than McG's idea...

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

Yeah, maybe you should write the next film...sounds better than McG's idea...

I don't think there is a budget big enough for my Terminator Movie idea

 

[EndoSickness]

So, here we go:

It's not implied. You can see in the ending sequence. Six is...

Spoiler

a Praetorian. You can see from the head shape in these pics. It's a very distinct head shape and matches the Praetorians we meet in the single player game. Head splits and molts to the Queen which is a totally different head shape. You can also tell from the size compared to the cocooned Doctor. Bigger than a normal Alien/not as big as the Queen.

(copy and paste to get the pics)
https://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f291/sabres21768/AlienArt/AvP2010-02-2207-09-27-85.jpg

https://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f291/sabres21768/AlienArt/AvP2010-02-2207-09-29-85.jpg

What is implied is that Six went into molting mode once the Queen died. The Combat Synths and Weyland didn't realize that.
That's why everyone was dead on the Dropship and spaceship during that last scene.
Six had molted into a Praetorian, killed everyone and we were witness to the change to the Queen.

Alright, now that you say that...totally reasonable, but I read elsewhere that he "tricked" Weyland, but the pose and the fact that the queen died just moments before...

This makes it look like the strongest warrior automatically becomes a praetorian to secure the hive and when it´s secure starts to molt into a queen.

Does that sound like a good interpretation?

 

[Sabres21768]

So, here we go:



Alright, now that you say that...totally reasonable, but I read elsewhere that he "tricked" Weyland, but the pose and the fact that the queen died just moments before...

This makes it look like the strongest warrior automatically becomes a praetorian to secure the hive and when it´s secure starts to molt into a queen.

Does that sound like a good interpretation?

Thanks for continuing this here. I find it a fun discussion and didn't want to continue to spam the Pred figure thread.

I see where you're coming from and I guess I can see how some people see it as Six tricking everyone. Personally, I don't think it was a trick.
Six was the last and need to continue the hive.
I think that Weyland thought that Six was weak or beaten by the Elite Pred. But, that wasn't the case.

 

[EndoSickness]

Nope, that wasn´t the case at all.
So it was that what I thought all along: the molting process.
Thx for that.
Your quite fond of AvP in all it´s facettes, to call it that way, right?
What do you say about the differences between the warriors of the movies and now the new game and the newest incarnation of the predalien?

 

[Matt13]

Sorry if I missed it but does anyone have a nice clear pic of the new predalien?