Avengers: Age of Ultron (May 1st, 2015)

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I think if you start a franchise called Avengers and not have the main cast and characters in what could be the end of this particular Avengers trilogy, is absolutely ridiculous. I believe most of the regulars are already signed on anyway as part of their existing contract, so I doubt not having them in the third film will occur. Furthermore I do think a crossover movie will happen at some point. It's the only logical step for making a cohesive cinematic and televised universe in my opinion.
 
You kind of answered your own question.
Yeah, and the massive success of Guardians of the Galaxy, with really no A- or even B-list characters involved demonstrates that the executive strategy here--with associated marketing, association with previous hits, and decisions on whom to hire as writers, directors, and cast--is what matters more than recognizability of certain characters, teams, or stories. I'm sure many of us geeks would like to think that the success of comic films is largely due to our coming out en masse to support well made films of the characters and stories we've loved since kids, but that's not the case. I think instead, that these comic stories (or at least the well made ones. . .*glares at WB*) tap into something universal, that are fun, fantastic, and appeal to our inner child. It just so happens that Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, Ditko, and a handful of others figured out that formula 50 years ago.

So in other words, assuming Feige doesn't lose sight of what really matters here, I don't think RDJ, Evans, Hemsworth, or anyone else leaving would mean the end of successful Marvel comic films. But on the other hand, nothing lasts forever, and chances are folks making decisions will start to lose sight, will stop being innovative or will stop being as fun, and things will move on. But I don't see any evidence that this is starting to happen yet.
 
Anyone ever hear of this supposed plot line? I found it on SHH a couple months ago. Likely fake:

• Leaked reported info from Unit Producer John M. is as follows:
The entire story has to do with time. Strucker is trying to go back to the days of Hydra and prevent things from happening so it can still be in command. He is in possession of not Loki's staff, because Loki had it at the end of Thor and he doesn't work with the humans. Strucker has the Time Gem. He tests it on QS and SW resulting in their powers. (Speed=aka slowing down time around him, and probability manipulation)
The film opens like Cap 2 with them on a mission successively stopping Strucker and "rescuing" the twins to bring them to the good side. The person who commands this is Tony by deploying a robot team. This is when it goes to the party at the Avengers tower. Ultron is in the back room, where the scenes cut back and forth as he becomes aware of the constant destruction Tony is causing with robots like himself so he commands a few of them and attacks and escapes.
Tony is forced to reveal to the team everything. The Vision he'd been working on and the dealings with Fury he has on the side to not consistently put them at risk.
The race is on to find Ultron resulting in the globe spanning battles seen in the teaser from Comic-Con. Ultimately at the beginning of the Third Act Widow, QS, Thor, Hawkeye, Rhodes, and Cap are all killed by Ultron's robots. The Hulk is the most upset by this as he had a budding relationship with Widow. The Hulk blames Iron Man and the fight it out big time. Iron Man is saved by Vision and SW-where we first get a glimpse of their "relationship" on screen as a trust/tandem.
• As Hulk is confused and sent away by SW to the snowy field. The last consisting of Iron Man, Vision, SW, Nick Fury, and Maria Hill decide to send Vision back in time with the power of the orb to stop the creation of a key A.I element installed in Jarvis. Effectively eliminating Vision but maintaining Jarvis. As things go back to "normal" and everyone is alive the Time Gem is taken to the Collector by Thor not knowing the Collectors intention/master. Hulk and Widow reconcile although Hulk and Iron Man do not. SW gets her brother back. Rhodes and Hawkeye have no clue. Fury is aware. Cap questions everything and has a hunch as he has been throughout time already and has memories of back when Stark Sr. was doing things.
The key that ties this film into the others is the age of Hank Pym. We see him as a younger scientist when Vision goes back. He becomes the actual "creator" of Ultron in this new reality but is "stopped" from having it come to life by the AI element implanted by Vision. (Technically a virus, like the book) But Pym, being Pym, wants to solve this problem so, as he gets older and unable to, he hires a young gun to do his thievery for him looking for a specific item. (Paul Rudd's character)
The movie is reported to end with Thanos actually visiting Loki to retrieve the gauntlet accompanied by the Collector. (Ending in yet another "bad guy" end credits scene)
The other mention is Dr. Strange witnessing the recorded powers of SW while in the Hospital with bandages on his hands. Supposedly from the wreckage and ends with a slight smile as he will actively seek out other-worldly abilities. *slight change but makes sense)
PS I’m sure a lot of this will change but I challenge anybody to screenshot this and wait for more trailers/the movie. The source who provided this info is at LEAST 70% reliable.

Sounds interesting at least.
 
Yeah, and the massive success of Guardians of the Galaxy, with really no A- or even B-list characters involved demonstrates that the executive strategy here--with associated marketing, association with previous hits, and decisions on whom to hire as writers, directors, and cast--is what matters more than recognizability of certain characters, teams, or stories. I'm sure many of us geeks would like to think that the success of comic films is largely due to our coming out en masse to support well made films of the characters and stories we've loved since kids, but that's not the case. I think instead, that these comic stories (or at least the well made ones. . .*glares at WB*) tap into something universal, that are fun, fantastic, and appeal to our inner child. It just so happens that Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, Ditko, and a handful of others figured out that formula 50 years ago.

So in other words, assuming Feige doesn't lose sight of what really matters here, I don't think RDJ, Evans, Hemsworth, or anyone else leaving would mean the end of successful Marvel comic films. But on the other hand, nothing lasts forever, and chances are folks making decisions will start to lose sight, will stop being innovative or will stop being as fun, and things will move on. But I don't see any evidence that this is starting to happen yet.

Basically, all of this. :clap
 
So in other words, assuming Feige doesn't lose sight of what really matters here, I don't think RDJ, Evans, Hemsworth, or anyone else leaving would mean the end of successful Marvel comic films. But on the other hand, nothing lasts forever, and chances are folks making decisions will start to lose sight, will stop being innovative or will stop being as fun, and things will move on. But I don't see any evidence that this is starting to happen yet.

True, but this is all ultimately Disney now, and even when they have a run of several mediocre or unsuccessful movies they always bounce back. I think if Feige burns out or starts going crazy they'll replace him with someone who does have that spark of fun and innovation still burning brightly inside.
 
Its coming boys and girls. :lol

Published October 07, 2014 by Devin Faraci

Rumor: Spider-Man To Cross Over With The Avengers?


Our take: Sony has no clue what to do with the Wall-crawler.


Yesterday HitFix's Drew McWeeny dropped a little bombshell:


While I can't get the confirmations I need to verify the story, I'm hearing that there are some very cool "Spider-Man" plans being discussed that would help Sony refocus their enormously important franchise while also opening up some connections in the onscreen Marvel movie universe that would blow fandom's minds. Will it work out? I don't know. I would love to be able to state for sure that it's happening. What seems clear from what I've heard is that Marvel wants to be able to play with all of their characters, and if they can make that work creatively and on a corporate level, they will, and that means the world gets bigger again.


Spider-Man coming into the Marvel Cinematic Universe? That's a big deal. But get this: it's the THIRD DIFFERENT Spider-Man plan I've heard in the last week. Other things I've heard from insiders:


- Sony is going to soft reboot Spider-Man with The Sinister Six, having a new actor playing a Spidey who works with the villains The Dirty Dozen style to take down a larger threat.


- Sony is going to put Spider-Man on the shelf for four or five years and see if they can develop any of the side characters into their own franchises.


I've also heard that Venom is functionally dead again.


These are three wildly divergent stories, and I'm not sure if any of them are true or if all of them are true. I actually lean towards 'all of them' because that fits into the larger narrative of 'Sony has no clue what to do next.' I think that plans for Spider-Man change as the wind blows in Culver City, and that Marvel Studios could be taking advantage of this fact - as well as the fact that Sony is not doing so great in the movie business these days.


How did it get this far? It's crazy to imagine that the spectre of a new Spider-Man movie makes us unhappy. I remember frothing at the mouth for a quality Spidey film, and now all I want is for Peter Parker to quietly slink off someplace for a few years and leave us be.


If Marvel does work out a deal to reclaim Spider-Man I hope Andrew Garfield comes along; I like the actor in the role, even if I don't like the way the role is written. It will be interesting to see how Marvel Studios brings Spidey in - will they simply accept the reboot movies as canon, or will they reintroduce Spider-Man for the third time in 20 years?
 
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ROBERT DOWNEY JR. CONFIRMS IRON MAN 4




BY: LUCY O'BRIEN
OCTOBER 7, 2014
In the never-ending will it/won't it narrative led by actor Robert Downey Jr, it looks like Iron Man 4 could be happening after all.




In a recent appearance on the Ellen Show, the Iron Man actor admitted as much to host Ellen DeGeneres.
"I know there's gonna be a bunch more Marvel movies and...they have big ideas of how to do it best, and we're in the middle of negotiations, and blah blah blah..." RDJ said, before trailing off.


"So...'yes'" said DeGeneres.


"Okay, yes," replied the actor.

This comes a month after RDJ stated that "there's nothing in the pipe," and "there’s no plan for a fourth Iron Man". More recently, he said he would only appear in Iron Man 4 if his friend Mel Gibson was to direct the film, which he later revealed in his Reddit AMA to be "an offhanded remark to a journalist and friend."

"I have other projects in mind for Mel and I - sooner than later the Marvel Roster will be made public and all questions will be answered."

Well, thank Marvel's many gods for that.
 
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I think this just means Marvel would like more RDJ. Not necessarily that they've agreed to terms.
 
I think this just means Marvel would like more RDJ. Not necessarily that they've agreed to terms.

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He's now said on Letterman, just after being on Ellen, saying that there are no plans for IM4, that there is no script, but Marvel has a plan and may release news about it all soon. He goes on to say that he will still be part of Marvel and do things with Marvel, but maybe not specifically a full movie.

Basically, after Avengers 3, because everyone including Marvel and Downey himself, love him as Stark, he's going to reduce his time to just cameos. That's what it sounds like to me anyway. I have no problem with this. However, if this is true, it means no more Iron Man films, unless Rhodey takes the lead.
 
He's now said on Letterman, just after being on Ellen, saying that there are no plans for IM4, that there is no script, but Marvel has a plan and may release news about it all soon. He goes on to say that he will still be part of Marvel and do things with Marvel, but maybe not specifically a full movie.

Basically, after Avengers 3, because everyone including Marvel and Downey himself, love him as Stark, he's going to reduce his time to just cameos. That's what it sounds like to me anyway. I have no problem with this. However, if this is true, it means no more Iron Man films, unless Rhodey takes the lead.

ah ha! That just proves that everything about Ellen is complete trash, stupid show
 
I find it hard to believe that RDJ would leave $75 million or $100 million on the table for IM4. Don't believe anything that he tells the talking heads - all of the parties involved are simply feeling each other out.
 
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