Best Hi-Def TV to get?
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Red
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Yeah i think i asked for a sticky before but now that the King has spoken maybe it will happen.
It's all in the eye of the beholder but generally you cant wrong with the big names Panasonic,Samsung and Sony with LG,Sharp etc producing some good teles.
Do some major research on th net,visit a few stores and try and get a feel for whether your eyes like the natural picture colour of the Plasma or the vivid eye popping colours of an LCD(LED).
shocktrooper_au
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Personally I bought the Sony Bravia, you have to be wary in-store as they usually use a setting that really makes it POP instore but not what you'd use at home. The best thing is to got to a store and just spend time looking at each TV and picking a brand you trust
Red
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So true as they will have the tele they want to sell playing BR with HDMI and set at optimum sitting next to a donkey.
I found by visiting independent web sites and getting expert opinion and user reviews helped but really we are somewhat spoilt for choice.
Just go out and buy the best tele there is a Pioneer Kuro if you've got some loose change lying about.
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Beren
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Decided to go all-out and get my honking HDTV and BluRay home theatre system and upgrade from 5.1 DVD to 7.1 and my 27" CRT.
Didn't know anything about plasma vs LCD. Looked at the TVs, many of them.
In the end, I compared a 52" LCD from Sharp to a 60" Plasma from LG. Both 1920X1080p. Both the same price. I was initially looking at 52" but then I saw the 60" in the budget range I gave myself.
As I am a movie buff and plan on watching mostly Bluray on it and don't watch much broadcast TV, I wanted to see what the image was like. The store had "I, Robot" playing on the 52" LCD. I unplugged it and put it through the 60" plasma. When you are in a store, make sure the BD player is plugged through HDMI. I was shocked how pisspoor the HDTVs were connected (component or DVI, rarely HDMI!).
I liked the BD image on the plasma better than the LCD. The LCD is 'too crisp', often shots of movies will look like video and not film.
The 52" and 60" were the same price so that was another reason to go with the plasma.
Now I bought the HDTV on Saturday.
I have now spent the last 3 days reading online. About what?
- 3D vision possible on plasma TVs? Inconclusive, with a PC possibly but there most likely will be TVs in the fall of this year (now they claim spring!) that have it built in. No one knows of course what they will cost but can't shake the feeling that I am buying a TV that will date quickly. But I guess that goes for anything electronic in the last 15 years. My TV would have cost $15K 7 years ago...
- 3D Vision tech (I was hoping I could get the Nvidia 3D vision kit and through the PC enjoy 3D on the plasma but unlikely to work)
- plasma vs LCD
- plasma tech in general
- my specific plasma TV model, forum feedback (fairly good, great price, decent quality) LG 60PS11.
- optimal viewing distance (didn't think about that, apparently it should be 7-12 ft for 60". That may be problematic!)
- craigslist for receivers and basic research on some of the ones offered
And some other things. I've decided to get a playstation 3, it's been announced a few days ago it will be able to play the 3D standard. Although I'm not 100% sure if that is really only firmware update or an upgraded PS3.
The monster (117 lbs) was supposed to be delivered Sunday evening but Future Shop cancelled due to weather, was supposed to happen today but I rescheduled for Wednesday because I am thinking of cancelling. Why?
I am thinking I can possibly still survive without the major kick ass home theatre system for now (it was supposed to be my 'reward' for having to move after 9 years in the same place) because I want the 3D capability for HDTV (because that would also be awesome for gaming and then I also wouldn't bother with a 3 monitor setup for my computer). And the new 3D standard will require a new 7.1 receiver.
Or just get the TV, enjoy it for a year and sell it then on craigslist for $1500. But then again, that would mean getting another receiver. hmmmmmmm.... choices.
I think I will cancel the TV, just set up my old DVD system for now and wait to see how this 3D thing develops in the next 3-4 months.
Any thoughts?
Beren
Didn't know anything about plasma vs LCD. Looked at the TVs, many of them.
In the end, I compared a 52" LCD from Sharp to a 60" Plasma from LG. Both 1920X1080p. Both the same price. I was initially looking at 52" but then I saw the 60" in the budget range I gave myself.
As I am a movie buff and plan on watching mostly Bluray on it and don't watch much broadcast TV, I wanted to see what the image was like. The store had "I, Robot" playing on the 52" LCD. I unplugged it and put it through the 60" plasma. When you are in a store, make sure the BD player is plugged through HDMI. I was shocked how pisspoor the HDTVs were connected (component or DVI, rarely HDMI!).
I liked the BD image on the plasma better than the LCD. The LCD is 'too crisp', often shots of movies will look like video and not film.
The 52" and 60" were the same price so that was another reason to go with the plasma.
Now I bought the HDTV on Saturday.
I have now spent the last 3 days reading online. About what?
- 3D vision possible on plasma TVs? Inconclusive, with a PC possibly but there most likely will be TVs in the fall of this year (now they claim spring!) that have it built in. No one knows of course what they will cost but can't shake the feeling that I am buying a TV that will date quickly. But I guess that goes for anything electronic in the last 15 years. My TV would have cost $15K 7 years ago...
- 3D Vision tech (I was hoping I could get the Nvidia 3D vision kit and through the PC enjoy 3D on the plasma but unlikely to work)
- plasma vs LCD
- plasma tech in general
- my specific plasma TV model, forum feedback (fairly good, great price, decent quality) LG 60PS11.
- optimal viewing distance (didn't think about that, apparently it should be 7-12 ft for 60". That may be problematic!)
- craigslist for receivers and basic research on some of the ones offered
And some other things. I've decided to get a playstation 3, it's been announced a few days ago it will be able to play the 3D standard. Although I'm not 100% sure if that is really only firmware update or an upgraded PS3.
The monster (117 lbs) was supposed to be delivered Sunday evening but Future Shop cancelled due to weather, was supposed to happen today but I rescheduled for Wednesday because I am thinking of cancelling. Why?
I am thinking I can possibly still survive
without the major kick ass home theatre system for now (it was supposed to be my 'reward' for having to move after 9 years in the same place) because I want the 3D capability for HDTV (because that would also be awesome for gaming and then I also wouldn't bother with a 3 monitor setup for my computer). And the new 3D standard will require a new 7.1 receiver.Or just get the TV, enjoy it for a year and sell it then on craigslist for $1500. But then again, that would mean getting another receiver. hmmmmmmm.... choices.
I think I will cancel the TV, just set up my old DVD system for now and wait to see how this 3D thing develops in the next 3-4 months.
Any thoughts?
Beren
If you're happy with the set you just bought, I wouldn't worry about what's going to be out there a year from now or longer. By the time they do get this out, you'll have to wait till the price is reasonable.
Yes, never buy new technology.
Beren
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Don't really think so.... but I could be wrong. They are showcasing the TVs this week in Las Vegas and will start selling them in Q2 of 2010. Whether in North America or only Asia, don't know.
There have been major announcements in the last 2 weeks.
Today: (!)
https://hdguru3d.com/index.php?opti...tails-leaked&catid=35:hdguru3d-news&Itemid=59
LG has already opened a manufacturing plant for this purpose. And designed for 1080p 3D imagery.
Blu Ray has now a 3D standard.
It seems that the only major thing needed is for the TV to have a refresh rate of 120 Hz and the software to code the image into two fields. Shutter glasses already exist. And "HDMI 1.4" in/outs. So those are the 3 requirements for an HDTV to portray 3D.
I'm gonna decide tomorrow whether to cancel. Better than getting it lugged to my place and then returning it within 30 days...
I just don't like the idea of buying a major TV and receiver and not having that capability. And I can then also skip on the 3 LCD monitors that I wanted to get for 3D gaming.
If it meant waiting another 6 months and paying an extra, let's say $600, (right now $2000 for the TV, $500 for the receiver, $300 for PS3, I have speakers), it'd be worth it to me. 60" would prob be out of reach but I could live with a 52".
Beren
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personally I think 7.1 is overkill. I'd rather put the extra funds into getting better features on the tv than buying a new receiver and adding another speaker or 2 to the rear. Do you really think "hmm that helicopter flew over left vs rearleft?" 5.1 mix will always be available on DVD and bluray because most people will never want to install 7 speakers in their living rooms.
also, I love 3D and have thought about the technology and whether I should wait, but I think we are a good 5 years from having a catalog deep enough to really need to invest that much into it. By then, whatever TV you buy today will probably be on its last legs anyway. So don't overpay for that technology yet.
also, I love 3D and have thought about the technology and whether I should wait, but I think we are a good 5 years from having a catalog deep enough to really need to invest that much into it. By then, whatever TV you buy today will probably be on its last legs anyway. So don't overpay for that technology yet.
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Anymore, alot of this stuff only lasts about 5 or 6 years. After the warranties are off, it's cheaper to just replace it rather than sink alot of money into something that old.
Beren
Super Freak
well, my living room is already WIRED for 7.1
(all the drywall was redone, so got that in there while at it).The impression I am getting is that 3D will be an extra feature, like THX. I could be wrong but things will look a lot clearer within the next week, after CES.
I'm not too worried about existing content, I don't care about broadcasting content. I care about movies and games in 3D. They'll most likely encode movies that weren't shot 3D, too. I'd pick those up as well, especially because 3D will be an extra feature, you can watch 2D or 3D. If I don't like it, I stick with 2D.
The 3D will require a new receiver in any case, supposedly so that would be a double-whammy if I want to upgrade.
I'm thinking/hoping I can still get my 60" plasma for the same price 6 months down the road if the 3D doesn't pan out, although it was discounted $300 for Boxing Week. Well, still have 24 hrs - 30 days to decide (before - after delivery).
ProgMatinee
circlesendwheretheybegin
i'm positive in 6 months the tv you want will be atleast 10-20% cheaper. Also, I don't think a receiver is relevant to playing 3D. Most people probably don't even wire the visual through the receiver. I run only audio through the receiver via optical.
I think we are 5 years away from in home 3D movies being relevant, can't say about gaming.
in anycase I'd save $500 by skipping a receiver and putting it into getting a sony or samsung rather than an LG
even at a smaller size.
I think we are 5 years away from in home 3D movies being relevant, can't say about gaming.
in anycase I'd save $500 by skipping a receiver and putting it into getting a sony or samsung rather than an LG
even at a smaller size.
i'm positive in 6 months the tv you want will be atleast 10-20% cheaper. Also, I don't think a receiver is relevant to playing 3D. Most people probably don't even wire the visual through the receiver. I run only audio through the receiver via optical.
I think we are 5 years away from in home 3D movies being relevant, can't say about gaming.
in anycase I'd save $500 by skipping a receiver and putting it into getting a sony or samsung rather than an LG
A LOT of people run video through HDMI on newer receivers especially if they have Blu Ray players to take advantage of the better audio formats.
ProgMatinee
circlesendwheretheybegin
i guess. for me 5.1 DTS is plenty good.
can receivers running with HDMI inputs seperate the audio and video considering they are using one input port? my pre HDMI Denon can run a seperate audio and video input at the same time, but it involves some button pushing. so I just prefer having the audio synced seperately so I can more easily view and listen to seperate things simultaneously, like playing CDs while I am gaming or listening to a radio broadcast of a baseball game instead of the tv commentators, etc.
can receivers running with HDMI inputs seperate the audio and video considering they are using one input port? my pre HDMI Denon can run a seperate audio and video input at the same time, but it involves some button pushing. so I just prefer having the audio synced seperately so I can more easily view and listen to seperate things simultaneously, like playing CDs while I am gaming or listening to a radio broadcast of a baseball game instead of the tv commentators, etc.
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KAOSINLA
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So true as they will have the tele they want to sell playing BR with HDMI and set at optimum sitting next to a donkey.
I found by visiting independent web sites and getting expert opinion and user reviews helped but really we are somewhat spoilt for choice.
Just go out and buy the best tele there is a Pioneer Kuro if you've got some loose change lying about.
After spending months on AVS and on the Highdef forums, I decided to go to a panel shootout. There wasn't a panel really even close to the Kuro (including LED). SED and OLED are still bug-ridden. With the Kuro, you can't even tell the blacks from the bezel. And, calibration is just the icing on an already delcious cake, so to say. Out of box, it's a hands down winner.
So, Santa and I went shopping in Nov.
Bought a Pixel-Perfect, ISF Day/Night Calibrated, Pioneer KRP-500M (and some additives). I would have went with the 600M, but only the 50" had the 10g tech. Panasonic has since bought the patents.
Not sure if there are any more KRP's floating around from authorized sellers, but I'd highly recommend them.
I was checking out the Samsung UN55B8500 tv pretty hard
Its a HUGE price, but a phenomenal tv
A nice, and more affordable Samsung LN52B750
Glad to see you scored yours already....I'll pass my picks along to others. I personally avoid plasmas since I play games with my tv, so LCD was the option of choice for me.
I scored a Sony 7.1 receiver, but am happy with the 5.1 arrangement for now.....7.1 is a lot of speaker....I am currently using Polk speakers
Its a HUGE price, but a phenomenal tv
A nice, and more affordable Samsung LN52B750
Glad to see you scored yours already....I'll pass my picks along to others. I personally avoid plasmas since I play games with my tv, so LCD was the option of choice for me.
I scored a Sony 7.1 receiver, but am happy with the 5.1 arrangement for now.....7.1 is a lot of speaker....I am currently using Polk speakers
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GrueSam
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Another vote for the Sony Bravia from me.
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