Buffy The Vampire Slayer reboot

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Given SMG's age I'm assuming this will be a present day "next chapter" in the Buffyverse. I don't see how they can do that successfully/believably without any other core characters from the original series. Buffy wouldn't just cut ties with Dawn and Willow (sister and best friend, respectfully), and fans probably won't accept a premise where they've simply died off in the ensuing years. IDK, maybe a catastrophic event where she loses everyone is how they could kick the show off, but without the chance of her pulling an Endgame type reversal I can't see that working (especially without Willow & her magic). That said, I don't think SMG would sign on to do this just for the paycheck so I'm not going to dismiss the show out of hand.

Just tell me that Buffy isn't going to erect a Slayer Temple where she teaches Potentials to build their own Scythes. :chase
 
Given SMG's age I'm assuming this will be a present day "next chapter" in the Buffyverse. I don't see how they can do that successfully/believably without any other core characters from the original series. Buffy wouldn't just cut ties with Dawn and Willow (sister and best friend, respectfully), and fans probably won't accept a premise where they've simply died off in the ensuing years. IDK, maybe a catastrophic event where she loses everyone is how they could kick the show off, but without the chance of her pulling an Endgame type reversal I can't see that working (especially without Willow & her magic). That said, I don't think SMG would sign on to do this just for the paycheck so I'm not going to dismiss the show out of hand.

Just tell me that Buffy isn't going to erect a Slayer Temple where she teaches Potentials to build their own Scythes. :chase
Well she’s not the main character so they don’t really need to have other legacy characters show up if she’s only supporting cast.

Maybe brief cameos as I doubt they’ll have the budget to de-age characters like Spike and Angel for very long.
 
Well she’s not the main character so they don’t really need to have other legacy characters show up if she’s only supporting cast.

Maybe brief cameos as I doubt they’ll have the budget to de-age characters like Spike and Angel for very long.
That article says she’s starring in it and doesn’t mention any other characters so how did you come to the conclusion that she’s merely in a supporting role?
 
I could see her taking on the mentor role.
Yes, and from what I just read it sounds like @chrisstbh is right, SMG will have more of a recurring role as Buffy and will serve as a bridge to a new slayer’s story. Although I’m curious why it will focus on just one when hundreds were created in the original series finale.
 
Given SMG's age I'm assuming this will be a present day "next chapter" in the Buffyverse. I don't see how they can do that successfully/believably without any other core characters from the original series. Buffy wouldn't just cut ties with Dawn and Willow (sister and best friend, respectfully), and fans probably won't accept a premise where they've simply died off in the ensuing years. IDK, maybe a catastrophic event where she loses everyone is how they could kick the show off, but without the chance of her pulling an Endgame type reversal I can't see that working (especially without Willow & her magic). That said, I don't think SMG would sign on to do this just for the paycheck so I'm not going to dismiss the show out of hand.

Just tell me that Buffy isn't going to erect a Slayer Temple where she teaches Potentials to build their own Scythes. :chase
The article mentioned they expect more original cast members to return. So at least the door is open for them to come back, if they do is a different manner. Plus some actors like Nicholas Brendon have had some "issues" so some of them might not get the chance to come back.
 
The article mentioned they expect more original cast members to return. So at least the door is open for them to come back, if they do is a different manner. Plus some actors like Nicholas Brendon have had some "issues" so some of them might not get the chance to come back.
I mean does anyone really want Joss Whedon’s self insert character to come back? Probably not.
 
It's a reboot in a sense that it's a fresh start but within the continuity of the original show where new viewers will be able to hop on board without experiencing the original.

From a nuts and bolts standpoint, this reboot is going to be incredibly difficult to market. The original show started back in the late 90s. The then "WB" had zero competition for younger viewership. The emergence of a "4th" major network, Fox, showed more aggressive and adult oriented content could thrive in a mainstream network environment. Back when BTVS started, the average American adult did not own a computer. When the show ended, a majority of Americans were still on dial up internet.

Don't get me wrong, I understand the time line practicality of a "reboot" If you were 15 when this showed aired in it's mid run, now you are in your 30s and still in your prime earning years. You are still in the most desirable marketing demographics. But the swell of original content now has made audience capture quite fierce. Also part of BTVS success was it covered a certain complexity of "coming of age" The dynamic was "meta" level engagement, but for groups. Now in modern times, it's isolated to the individual. Much of that is based on an entire generation socialized and normalized to "retro enforcement" of the Cancel Culture that pushes people into isolation. When someone wants to hunt you down now, they are going to go back 5 years ago to something you said back then, and try to grind you with a purity test solely on that. One wrinkle of a forum like this that has survived this long, is that there are things that you could normally say and talk about in these SSF forums back in 2009 that would get you banned immediately today. ( It's not that simple, that's a distinction, not a broad scale criticism, these forums are now monetized and it's not so simple to hold member retention in this format)

If one parses down the structure in what makes someone like Mr. Beast successful ( engagement optimized for appealing to budding narcissists) , it's in stark contrast to what made BTVS so beloved in it's original run in it's time and place. I'm not saying a reboot can't technically find a large viewership, that pleases new fans and old ones alike, but what will appeal to a younger audience, in how engagement works more optimally for them today, will likely naturally alienate the legacy fanbase. What is the value of "coming of age" tropes when the average young person has Jordan Peterson or other resources at their fingertips at any time? I've always held Joss Whedon to be a phenomenal screen writer, but he had a crap ton of luck to break through when he did. He had good timing on his side. A "reboot" will not have good timing on it's side.

One of the reasons that shows like Severance and Squid Game hit so hard and become runaway hits is they have cross over appeal to an entire generation of young people, who lived their lives as true "digital natives", all entering the practical timeline of entering the full time workforce together. Most of us here are 40-60, about that range at this point. We can appreciate Squid Game because some of it's themes are universal. But for someone who is 22 years old and in Japan or South Korea, some of the core tone encapsulates a staggering amount of their day to day lived experience. Severance hits hard because I can market "a dying empire led by bad people" or late stage capitalism at full grind. For an entirely different generation from us, it's their more hard edged version of Mike Judge's Office Space. I'm not sure I could market, in current times, quippy humor and vampirism as a proxy for social activism the way Alan Ball, Ryan Murphy and Anne Rice have warped it.

The Blair Witch Project only really can generate steam in the era/timeline in which it was released. I really can't blame a 17 year old today who would watch it and not understand how it became such a huge hit. During the original BTVS run, I like many elements of it. There were fun things and cool characters at times and some pretty good dialogue for it's era, but it's just going to be really hard to translate for both older legacy fans and newer young fans together in 2025 and forward.

Like I said, I'll hope for the best and give it a chance, but there are some big hurdles here. These kind of reboots are driven more by bean counters and actuaries than practical high level creatives. Nostalgia cannot be used as a fix all shortcut for logistics, current zeitgeist and functional nuance. But when people see dollars signs, I guess they are going to try anyway. Let's hope for the best.
 
These kind of reboots are driven more by bean counters and actuaries than practical high level creatives. Nostalgia cannot be used as a fix all shortcut for logistics, current zeitgeist and functional nuance. But when people see dollars signs, I guess they are going to try anyway. Let's hope for the best.

Not sure if it means anything but there are a bunch of Tik Tokers who are watching for the first time and reviewing these older WB shows. Some have gotten quite a large audience because of it. I wonder if that has something to do with it.
 
Not sure if it means anything but there are a bunch of Tik Tokers who are watching for the first time and reviewing these older WB shows. Some have gotten quite a large audience because of it. I wonder if that has something to do with it.
Yeah a lot of older shows have had a resurgence due to social media. Dexter is another example, and look at how many spinoffs that’s getting after all this time.
 
Facebook is always showing me posts from a BTVS fanpage. It's mostly women who seem to utterly despise the majority of the male characters and are always trying to highlight controversial things about them. It's a wonder they can enjoy the show at all.

By my understanding Giles is the least hated. His only sin was going back to England in season 6 when it is argued that Buffy most needed him. Then maybe Oz - he left Willow. He wasn't in the show long enough to do anything worse so for that reason he's relatively less hated.

The top most hated characters seem to be Xander and Angel. Xander because he's Joss Whedon. And because Nicholas Brendon has apparently been an abusive drunk in real life. Angel because he pursued Buffy when she was a teenager and while all the girls loved that when they were themselves teenagers or at least early twenties, now notsomuch when they're in the their 40s looking back at it. I dunno, my late mum was a huge fan and she was already in her late 40s and 50s at the time - she didn't seem to have any issue with it. Perhaps she just accepted it as a piece of fantasy television in which it's alright for an eternally young looking Vampire to do that.
 
i enjoyed the series but it ran its course & every angle has been done to death since so i would prefer no remake.
 
Reaching the end of a rewatch of the Buffy and Angel series always feels sad. By way of avoiding that being the end I got digital copies of all the comics telling the continuing seasons, and in the process I think I got every single Buffyverse comic.

However, when I started on Buffy Season 8 it just wasn't the same, and coupled with the daunting prospect of so much reading I gave up the mission.

While I'm definitely interested in seeing the series continue in live action, after so much time it isn't going to be the same either. What might come from it in terms of 1/6 figures due to renewed interest is more intriguing than the new series itself.
 
If I'm reading it correctly, it's a continuation rather than a reboot. Or maybe that's a distinction without a difference, I guess I'm just thinking more of a remake, and it doesn't sound like this will be that.

Obviously they're going to run into issues right off the bat since Angel saw the world being overrun by demons in its finale, so it will be interesting to see them tackle the ramifications of that. Presumably, Buffy unleashing more slayers into the world will help. Fingers crossed.
The comics did some continuation of both Buffy post season seven and angel post season five. Decent but they turned Gunn into a vampire right out of the alley fight so that was disappointing…
 
What might come from it in terms of 1/6 figures due to renewed interest is more intriguing than the new series itself.








BTVS might be more successful in 1/12th scale. In a series of small multi-packs, over actual single 1/6th releases. The innovation and technological leaps in our hobby, plus improvements and rollout of facial scanning ( What Marvel Legends does in 1/12th with most of their headsculpts is actually pretty amazing ) creates IMHO a more practical product balance. At pure 1/6th, you'll get Buffy, Angel and Spike. And that's probably it. In 1/12th, you'll have a chance at Cordelia, Oz, Giles, etc, etc. The IP has been dormant for a while now. The huge risk factor for hard core fans is if 1/6th versions come out, but they are focused on finding the cheapest baselines possible. Like sticking a Spike head onto a BBI G1 Buck body underneath because the preexisting tooling already exists for a raw cheaper 12 inch body like that.
 
Spoilers ahead if anyone cares about the comics.

From what I remember Wesley comes back as a Ghost, Gunn becomes a Vampire. Angel goes kind of evil or something and is this masked flying guy trying to stop Buffy from bringing all the Slayers together. Giles and Faith break off from the Scoobs to look for Slayers. Dawn and Xander become a thing.

Comics wise I thought the recent reboot from Boom had some interesting differences from the show, like Xander becoming a vampire.
I had a great time drawing the covers for BUFFY the Last Vampire Slayer for BOOM! studios.. She is now old (still bad ass!) and she has an apprentice, a new slayer.
If that is the route they are taking, then I'm in for the ride!
 
BTVS might be more successful in 1/12th scale. In a series of small multi-packs, over actual single 1/6th releases. The innovation and technological leaps in our hobby, plus improvements and rollout of facial scanning ( What Marvel Legends does in 1/12th with most of their headsculpts is actually pretty amazing ) creates IMHO a more practical product balance. At pure 1/6th, you'll get Buffy, Angel and Spike. And that's probably it. In 1/12th, you'll have a chance at Cordelia, Oz, Giles, etc, etc. The IP has been dormant for a while now. The huge risk factor for hard core fans is if 1/6th versions come out, but they are focused on finding the cheapest baselines possible. Like sticking a Spike head onto a BBI G1 Buck body underneath because the preexisting tooling already exists for a raw cheaper 12 inch body like that.
At today's prices, I'd probably only care to have those 3 at 1/6th anyway.

In smaller scale I'd consider a deeper line.
 






BTVS might be more successful in 1/12th scale. In a series of small multi-packs, over actual single 1/6th releases. The innovation and technological leaps in our hobby, plus improvements and rollout of facial scanning ( What Marvel Legends does in 1/12th with most of their headsculpts is actually pretty amazing ) creates IMHO a more practical product balance. At pure 1/6th, you'll get Buffy, Angel and Spike. And that's probably it. In 1/12th, you'll have a chance at Cordelia, Oz, Giles, etc, etc. The IP has been dormant for a while now. The huge risk factor for hard core fans is if 1/6th versions come out, but they are focused on finding the cheapest baselines possible. Like sticking a Spike head onto a BBI G1 Buck body underneath because the preexisting tooling already exists for a raw cheaper 12 inch body like that.


I only have interest in 1/6. I got rid of most of everything that wasn't 1/6, including all the Buffy and Angel figures.

I got the original Sideshow Buffy when she came out, and a few years later found another boxed one for £5 at a car boot sale.

I think she was outdated at the time of release with her skinny body and tiny feet, but I could still see enough SMG in the sculpt to transplant it onto a modern body with better clothing so I'd at least have a representation of Buffy for the horror collection. The sculpt looks okay from a distance, but doesn't warrant close inspection or photography because the paintwork is so retro by today's standards.

She does have such a sad expression though!

I had to shrink this photo down to 25% so she wouldn't look quite so bad. :lol

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