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Yeah I was a huge fan of those shows when they aired, but they were very much a product of their time, and I expect a Buffy sequel series to work about as well as the new X-Files revival they tried a while ago. Especially given we see that super quippy style of humor in everything now.

Plus as controversial as he's become, I still wouldn't want to to see a new Buffy or Angel series without Whedon as the main driving force behind it.
Yeah, I think so much of that humor was a product of Whedon...you can see it in his involvement in the Avenger movies as well. Dislike him as a human, but the guy understood comedic timing and the balancing act of placing it in the midst of apocalyptic drama...
 
I for one am very excited about this. I just hope it's good. SMG is a huge talent, always been an underrated actress imo, hopefully she has something decent to work with storywise. Chloe Zhao is definitely a great choice as a director, her visuals are good.

There was a reddit leaker last year who made claims of SMG retuning with Chloe directing and everyone thought they were lying. Now with this news being announced, turns out they weren't.
Storywise they claimed Buffys arc will be around her being older, and very much bitter about how much of a burden her job has become on her life, and has become somewhat checked out of the job. A new enemy shows up that forces her to face her responsibilities, it's seems like some sort of resurrections arc plays out for her. Of course that could all change/be a draft ect. but it's interesting.

Hopefully a new series can wash away those horrendous season 8 comics at least.

This could also bring a surge of new merch too!
 
Yeah, I think so much of that humor was a product of Whedon...you can see it in his involvement in the Avenger movies as well. Dislike him as a human, but the guy understood comedic timing and the balancing act of placing it in the midst of apocalyptic drama...
Yeah as good as his other writers were, you could always tell when Whedon was the main writer on a script as it had an extra something special about it. Much like with Steven Moffat scripts during his DW run.
 
Yeah, I think so much of that humor was a product of Whedon...you can see it in his involvement in the Avenger movies as well. Dislike him as a human, but the guy understood comedic timing and the balancing act of placing it in the midst of apocalyptic drama...
yeh I think one of the biggest differences between Whedon's actual writing, and what the MCU has become is that Whedon also understood that you don't just use humour unexpectedly in the midst of apocalyptic drama, but you also undercut levity with unexpected pathos - which is something modern marvel doesn't seem to get.

They ape his style, but it's like... a fascimile of a facsimile at this point. They can write 'joke-like stuff' that has the pattern of banter, but the stuff that the characters are saying has to be actually witty. Also, people give/gave Whedon **** for all his characters 'sounding alike' - in one sense that's true in that he's not naturalistic, and has an authorial style, but on a deeper sense it isn't true at all; almost always the content of what is being said is a super clear indicator of who is saying it, he was always good at delineating characters like that. That's also something that the Marvel writers aping his style don't seem to get, so it really does end up sounding like this homogenous hodgepodge of things that appear at first glance to be jokes
 
I decided to start re-watching The Thin Man series of films last night (1934-1947).

The snappy dialogue, jokes and character interaction, especially the friendly sarcasm between William Powell and Myrna Loy, feel very much like the forerunner of the 'Whedon style'.
 
I have vague memories of being terribly disappointed with the movie, for which I had high hopes due to Rutger Hauer's involvement. After that, I never even considered watching the series, and I'm afraid that now it is excruciatingly dated.
If those two scenes posted here are any indicator, it looks like I wouldn't like it one bit.
 
I have vague memories of being terribly disappointed with the movie, for which I had high hopes due to Rutger Hauer's involvement. After that, I never even considered watching the series, and I'm afraid that now it is excruciatingly dated.
If those two scenes posted here are any indicator, it looks like I wouldn't like it one bit.
I watched the movie years after completing the series. For me, the two aren't remotely the same. Found the movie quite weak.
 
I watched the movie years after completing the series. For me, the two aren't remotely the same. Found the movie quite weak.
Yeah, they only share a title. The movie is campy, dumb and if I recall, not what Whedon wanted at all. The series is magical in so many ways...and absolutely dated. I tried to get my wife to watch it recently and couldn't get her past the first season. My plea of "...just hang on until season 2 when Angel goes off the rails" fell on deaf ears. To this day, Buffy and Angel are my number one all time series though...dated or not.
 
Yeah, they only share a title. The movie is campy, dumb and if I recall, not what Whedon wanted at all. The series is magical in so many ways...and absolutely dated. I tried to get my wife to watch it recently and couldn't get her past the first season. My plea of "...just hang on until season 2 when Angel goes off the rails" fell on deaf ears. To this day, Buffy and Angel are my number one all time series though...dated or not.
I'm not sure I could watch it all again, at my age. At the time I was in my very early 20s, hanging out in Alternative bars and clubs, dating girls that looked like Drusilla :LOL: ...it would feel very nostalgic now I'm sure but I don't really want to go back there.
 
the show is really cheesy and childish ( which makes sense because of buffy being young in school ) but it's also got a lot of padding and really bad fights and bad effects.

but being cheesy and silly helped it a lot. it succeeded because of it.
if they remake it taking out all the cheesy humor and corny young energy. it's going to suck.
which is ironic. being cheesy is what made it different than other horror shows. the only good thing about a reboot would be better effects. better fights
 
I tried doing an Angel rewatch recently, and that one actually held up pretty well (although I gave up once his annoying son Conner entered the picture). But Buffy just has way too much teenage angst for me to want to ever sit through it again. And I'm not sure I really want to experience the teenage angst of the Tiktok Generation either, or whatever they call themselves now.
 
You know there will be a "monster" that parallels the fears and paranoia of 'school shootings'...
Hey.. some absurd monsters are amusing to draw!
I had one of the best times in my career drawing this cover of Buffy n Willow vs the Spaghetti monster:

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I haven't specifically rewatched either show...well...perhaps ever. I didn't need to because my mum would always have them on repeat and I actually got sick of them. But during Covid I caught some episodes on TV for the first time in years and was reminded that they were pretty good shows in their day. I think it was from Buffy season 4/Angel season 1 onwards. Conceivably I might find Buffy S1-3 harder to get through again with the highschool drama. And certainly things like the filming aspect ratios, the effects and the fight scenes will all be dated.

But damned if a Buffy, Angel and Spike wouldn't look good on the 1/6 shelf. Hot Toys probably wouldn't go near it....maybe Threezero?
 
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