Call of Duty: Black Ops

[Starkiller]

There is that at times, but I'm talking about the hit detection. This game has real issues with that. No game has got it perfect yet and might never get it perfect, but BO has the most inconsistent hit detection I've probably ever dealt with. Some games, I'm smoking guys even when I'm missing and other games, I can't seem to even get hit markers. The last game to be this iffy was WaW. Can't be a coincidence.

I've played games with worse hit detection. Killzone 3 springs to mind as the most recent one I played and a few matches in Crysis 2 have been rather poor. I've never really had a problem in Black Ops, maybe a few games here and there with poor connection issues and serious lag. Otherwise I'm usually spot on.

 

[nash]

Whatever, I'm not gonna waste any more time debating with you.

In case you've forgotten, the COD series started out as a PC game, without it's success on PC, you won't even have a chance to play it on a console.

yep and it says a lot when a game like Counter Strike still owns something like Black Ops or even COD4. FPS is meant for PC.

 

[nash]

Fine by me. I'm passionate about those series I enjoy, and when people not only don't appreciate them but totally generalize those who play it and how it's played.

If you don't like the series, your lost, but don't come in the COD thread expecting to win a debate about how you think COD iz r the suxxorz!

So why do you go to the BF threads and talk about how YOU don't like it so it must suck. Get over yourself *********.


Fact of the matter is, black ops is good compared to MW2 but as a whole it is a mediocre and poor quality game. everything from the graphics to the netcode to maps were rushed out. Comparing it to the BF series makes it look like crap.

 

[Starkiller]

So why do you go to the BF threads and talk about how YOU don't like it so it must suck. Get over yourself *********.


Fact of the matter is, black ops is good compared to MW2 but as a whole it is a mediocre and poor quality game. everything from the graphics to the netcode to maps were rushed out. Comparing it to the BF series makes it look like crap.

You live in a delusional fantasy world, one in which you actually make sense and one where BF2 is actually better than COD. Unfortunately that world doesn't exists.

 

[snappahead]

I've played games with worse hit detection. Killzone 3 springs to mind as the most recent one I played and a few matches in Crysis 2 have been rather poor. I've never really had a problem in Black Ops, maybe a few games here and there with poor connection issues and serious lag. Otherwise I'm usually spot on.

I guess we see things differently. Killzone has MUCH better hit detection than BO based on my time with them. In my experience, almost every game does. I see that you're not bothered by it and I envy that. I'd have a lot more fun with BO if I didn't notice the problem too. I've recently been playing MW2 again and I've been enjoying it for the most part. For all it's faults, the hit detection is at least passable.

 

[Balsquat]

I have been loving this game. Playing for over a month on the PS3. No lag issues for me and it is really easy for the casual gamer to jump right in...I don't see how people can hate on this game.

 

[snappahead]

I have been loving this game. Playing for over a month on the PS3. No lag issues for me and it is really easy for the casual gamer to jump right in...I don't see how people can hate on this game.

Give it time.

 

[KitFisto]

I still don't see why people fight over what's "better". Better is in the eye of the beholder. If you like it...play it. If you don't like it...don't play it.

 

[NASEDO]

yep and it says a lot when a game like Counter Strike still owns something like Black Ops or even COD4. FPS is meant for PC.

Counter Strike does own COD.

 

[NASEDO]

I love the COD games, but I do think they're the "Disney" Version of FPS, made for the kiddies.

 

[Starkiller]

I guess we see things differently. Killzone has MUCH better hit detection than BO based on my time with them. In my experience, almost every game does. I see that you're not bothered by it and I envy that. I'd have a lot more fun with BO if I didn't notice the problem too. I've recently been playing MW2 again and I've been enjoying it for the most part. For all it's faults, the hit detection is at least passable.

I think MW2's hit detection is worse than BO. MW2 is my least favorite COD game post COD4. COD4 was the best but going back to it now it feels like it's missing some of the progression of the newer ones. I played the other day with friends from work just some private matches, and I forgot you can't even move once you pull out a claymore. I like what the newer games have done for the series...despite what MW2 did.

It's over reliance on killstreaks killed it for me. BO brought back some much needed balance. An despite being the same engine they almost manage to look slightly better than the last one. And it works. The visuals may not be jaw dropping but they are good. The gameplay is fun and totally makes up for it, and it's the bar and staple for every modern shooter now. Thanks to COD4.

COD4 deserves the praise it got/gets. I feel MW2 was overrated, and that WAW and BO are underrated.

 

[Legendary Hunter]

One of my friends had an online party with a few friends and when you go to dashboard/friends, you see him and his party and one member is all white like a silohuette with no face and the name is all question marks. Some people said it was because he was cheating, which makes sense because when he plays by himself his K/D ratio is like .35 or lower, but when he plays with his party, his ratio is a 3 or higher. Now if this is cheating, what kind is it? Sorry if this is off topic, but the game played was Black Ops.

 

[snappahead]

I think MW2's hit detection is worse than BO. MW2 is my least favorite COD game post COD4. COD4 was the best but going back to it now it feels like it's missing some of the progression of the newer ones. I played the other day with friends from work just some private matches, and I forgot you can't even move once you pull out a claymore. I like what the newer games have done for the series...despite what MW2 did.

It's over reliance on killstreaks killed it for me. BO brought back some much needed balance. An despite being the same engine they almost manage to look slightly better than the last one. And it works. The visuals may not be jaw dropping but they are good. The gameplay is fun and totally makes up for it, and it's the bar and staple for every modern shooter now. Thanks to COD4.

COD4 deserves the praise it got/gets. I feel MW2 was overrated, and that WAW and BO are underrated.

I don't disagree with your thoughts on these games. I just know the hit detection in BO is terrible. Type in "Black Ops hit detection" on youtube and watch the horror. It's not just me. As I said..they all have the same issue, but BO seems the worst to me.

My only real beef with MW2 is the kill streak stacking. The explosives were over powered, the commando perk was lame and quick scoping was too easy, but the killstreaks are the worst. I can still have fun with the game though. Unfortunately, BO always feels off. Lag, Hit detection..whatever is causing it, it's just too inconsistent for my liking. I rarely play BO these days because of it.

 

[Starkiller]

One of my friends had an online party with a few friends and when you go to dashboard/friends, you see him and his party and one member is all white like a silohuette with no face and the name is all question marks. Some people said it was because he was cheating, which makes sense because when he plays by himself his K/D ratio is like .35 or lower, but when he plays with his party, his ratio is a 3 or higher. Now if this is cheating, what kind is it? Sorry if this is off topic, but the game played was Black Ops.

No I'm pretty sure that's an xbox live setting where only friends can view him and his profile...nothing to do with the game and cheating.

I don't disagree with your thoughts on these games. I just know the hit detection in BO is terrible. Type in "Black Ops hit detection" on youtube and watch the horror. It's not just me. As I said..they all have the same issue, but BO seems the worst to me.

My only real beef with MW2 is the kill streak stacking. The explosives were over powered, the commando perk was lame and quick scoping was too easy, but the killstreaks are the worst. I can still have fun with the game though. Unfortunately, BO always feels off. Lag, Hit detection..whatever is causing it, it's just too inconsistent for my liking. I rarely play BO these days because of it.

That's fine. I like the weapons and maps better on BO and loosing some of those extreme killstreaks, a nuke really? Give me break.

 

[Legendary Hunter]

No I'm pretty sure that's an xbox live setting where only friends can view him and his profile...nothing to do with the game and cheating.



That's fine. I like the weapons and maps better on BO and loosing some of those extreme killstreaks, a nuke really? Give me break.

Thanks for clearing that up for me Starkiller and I must agree that I enjoy BO better, the killstreaks are more reasonable, the nuke was just over doing it in MW2.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

the nuke was just over doing it in MW2.

No kidding. The first time I got nuked I entered a game about 30 seconds before the guy got the killstreak. My team was getting crushed, and I think I got maybe one kill in before the guy called in the nuke.

 

[snappahead]

Yeah, the nuke was cheese, but it wouldn't have been that bad if the killstreaks didn't stack. Try getting 25 kills with just your guns...not nearly as easy to accomplish. I played last night for about 2 hours and saw at least 10 nukes. No way that would happen without killstreak stacking.

 

[NASEDO]

One of my friends had an online party with a few friends and when you go to dashboard/friends, you see him and his party and one member is all white like a silohuette with no face and the name is all question marks. Some people said it was because he was cheating, which makes sense because when he plays by himself his K/D ratio is like .35 or lower, but when he plays with his party, his ratio is a 3 or higher. Now if this is cheating, what kind is it? Sorry if this is off topic, but the game played was Black Ops.

There's alot of ways to "cheat". Lag Switch is popular, I haven't used one since socom. But my friend is a COD cheater. His K/D/R is in the 3's. Lag Switches and Mod Controllers are the most popular. Also watch playing 1 v 1. Host can change alot of game settings and "own" you.

 

[Starkiller]

That still the excuse you're using for me beating you 3 rounds ina row?

 

[Macularius]

The lag has been killing this for me lately... It's absolutely rediculous; I'll run around a corner and start shooting someone and my body will just drop to the ground, I'll watch the killcam and they put 5 rounds into me while I was already around the corner for a second and not doing anything, and even though on my screen I started to shoot at them watching their killcam I didn't even raise my weapon apparently.

The hit detection is crap too... For whatever reason my sights will be DIRECTLY on someone for about 3 seconds of shooting time and I only get 1-2 hit markers, yet you can use a FAMAS fired from the hip and still own people halfway across the map?

Honestly those are my only problems with this game... But they are some of the most important ones relating to gameplay that I hardly ever play this anymore (less than 4 hours in the last week, compared to my normal 7-10 hours per week).
However... Zombies is still awesome. If they have map packs that include maps as epic as Ascension, I'll keep buying them just for that reason alone even if the multiplayer stays buggy.

Who knows... It might just be that a lot of people are playing this so the servers or whatever can't support it, in which case it will be more fun to play after the next cod comes out and less people play it.