Captain America: Civil War (May 6, 2016)

[spindrift]

Yep, it's too bad they felt pressure from BvS to make Civil War instead of a proper solo Cap 3.

How true- no doubt it would have been a very different Cap 3...

 

[IrishJedi]

So are we saying we are not allowed to compare two films released the same year about comic hero's who are pitted against each other??

Do whatever you want, but that **** got tired well before Civil War was even released.

These threads are often a total embarrassment.

 

[GodzillaSpawn]

How true- no doubt it would have been a very different Cap 3...

You mean like one that wasn't the excellent final product that we got?

Yeah, I'm good.

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[Deeznutz6]

My only real take away from this movie was, how hot is Emily van camp?...

 

[spindrift]

My only real take away from this movie was, how hot is Emily van camp?...

I thought she was wasted and only reason she was in it was to give Cap a love interest

 

[IrishJedi]

I thought she was wasted and only reason she was in it was to give Cap a love interest

Well, I imagine she'll be more of a focus in future films.

And, yes, she's gorgeous. Not in the league of Hayley Atwell, mind you... but still quite gorgeous.

 

[jye4ever]

I wish JLO played Sharon Carter.

 

[JAWS]

Do whatever you want, but that **** got tired well before Civil War was even released.

These threads are often a total embarrassment.

Well I for one have not compared BvS to Civil War before the film got released other than to say that WB and Snyder where doing it too fast. I liked BvS with my first viewing. Liked it less with my second. Then I saw CW and I could not help but compare. I am not friends with either filmmaker so I find no issues comparing the two and stating which one IMO pulled it off better.

 

[Deeznutz6]

Well I for one have not compared BvS to Civil War before the film got released other than to say that WB and Snyder where doing it too fast. I liked BvS with my first viewing. Liked it less with my second. Then I saw CW and I could not help but compare. I am not friends with either filmmaker so I find no issues comparing the two and stating which one IMO pulled it off better.

I'm in the same boat, as cbm fans, we will compare them, at least I did in terms of overall enjoyment. For in b vs s there were to many wtf moments an in civil war, there was nothing new. So I'm hoping SS has something different I will enjoy

 

[Darth Snoopy]

O come on man you know how these forums get over the summer when movies come out. It's a war from May til August .

Oh I know. It just gets boring reading the same old tired worn out tripe over and over again by the same usual suspects.

Do whatever you want, but that **** got tired well before Civil War was even released.

These threads are often a total embarrassment.

Agreed.

 

[Darkseed]

You mean like one that wasn't the excellent final product that we got?

Yeah, I'm good.

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I know right....

Some people just wanted it to take place at night in the rain with broody characters lots of over the top violence and plosions with Pa Stark piling rocks talking to Tony. i am glad we get two perspectives (tho I haven't caught on to Snyder's yet) otherwise, how boring would these be if both companies used the same approach.

 

[JAWS]

I'm in the same boat, as cbm fans, we will compare them, at least I did in terms of overall enjoyment. For in b vs s there were to many wtf moments an in civil war, there was nothing new. So I'm hoping SS has something different I will enjoy

Yeah that is how I feel as a film fan and as a Comic book fan. I guess I just look at it like this is a place to have a discussion.. As long as there a no insults then why is anything off limits?? I post like I talk... I have lots f friends and have yet to get decked for anything I have said..... Not yet anyways

I think I am pretty fair minded and polite to fellow members. So I guess I don't see the issue if I want to defend, dislike or compare a movie on here.

 

[JAWS]

Oh I know. It just gets boring reading the same old tired worn out tripe over and over again by the same usual suspects.



Agreed.

See if I start reading the same thing by the "usual suspects" over and over I just skip them... However I feel for you snoop since you are a Mod... You got to read all that crap

 

[chewblacca]

Comparrison between these two movies are inevitable. There's always someone who has to start stuff up. I always said you can't compare the two. That would be unfair. Civil War had 8 years of development to draw from, and Batman v Superman is a totally new interpretation of all three characters.

 

[JAWS]

Yep, it's too bad they felt pressure from BvS to make Civil War instead of a proper solo Cap 3.

MCU felt pressure to make CW because of BvS?? Well that is one thing BvS is for. I kid.

I know right....

Some people just wanted it to take place at night in the rain with broody characters lots of over the top violence and plosions with Pa Stark piling rocks talking to Tony. i am glad we get two perspectives (tho I haven't caught on to Snyder's yet) otherwise, how boring would these be if both companies used the same approach.

There is truth to this... I don't want another Marvel Universe in the DC films... I just wish DC took a bit more time building it's Universe. Keep the look and feel of BvS but give us more character depth and a better Universe. Hopefully the JL films can start to bring this together. I do wish there would be a Superman comes back from the grave movie before JL.. I don't know if I want to watch a JL film were half of it I waiting for Superman to come back and waste valuable story time on all of that.

 

[JAWS]

Comparrison between these two movies are inevitable. There's always someone who has to start stuff up. I always said you can't compare the two. That would be unfair. Civil War had 8 years of development to draw from, and Batman v Superman is a totally new interpretation of all three characters.

I may be misunderstanding you but this, to me, reads like ''BvS rushed it's universe-building and crammed everything into one film with no build-up'' and because of that it should be...excused from comparison to Civil War? That feels like moving the goal-posts to me so no one comes down hard on BvS.

The year has had 2 superhero movies that pit good guys against good guys - the comparison is inevitable, preferences are inevitable. Marvel and DC both chose their respective paths to this kind of scenario. IMO one of those paths is quite simply the better one and from what I'm hearing has resulted in a far more satisfying film.

Now perhaps that is not what you mean but the reason you posted is exactly why comparisons are going to be made.

Personally I watch CW and I see what BvS could have been had WB/DC just took a little more time.

 

[Darkseed]

Yeah naturally folks will gravitate towards one style vs the other neither right nor wrong. It really boils down to what you want in a film. While I like good action and a story if I relate to the character and their purpose the other two can be lacking or absent and I'll find something to enjoy. I love how Evans & co. portray Cap on screen as I can relate to 90% of his actions, thoughts etc. making it easy to fall into his adventures.

Cavill / Supes on the other hand, I cannot find a single thing yet to connect me to his character. Thankfully Batman was bad ass or it'd been another crap feast for me.

 

[Deeznutz6]

Yeah naturally folks will gravitate towards one style vs the other neither right nor wrong. It really boils down to what you want in a film. While I like good action and a story if I relate to the character and their purpose the other two can be lacking or absent and I'll find something to enjoy. I love how Evans & co. portray Cap on screen as I can relate to 90% of his actions, thoughts etc. making it easy to fall into his adventures.

Cavill / Supes on the other hand, I cannot find a single thing yet to connect me to his character. Thankfully Batman was bad ass or it'd been another crap feast for me.

I'm indifferent to the styles, think they can both work for each universe and deliver a good final product, personally BvS failed at that as the execution was terrible, leaving a bad cinematic experience, like I said to many wtf moments

 

[karamazov80]

Not necessarily. It wasn't Tony who wrote the letter seeking peace and it was Tony who was angry, not Capt. It's in character for Capt to apologize ...especially with a letter since he's a soldier from a different era. I'm glad it wasn't an email Still, that letter does't change much.

I do think Tony should have burnt the letter after reading it, but that might have been too similar to Alfred burning the letter at the end of TDK.

Maybe throwing the letter in the trashcan might have worked too, and that way they can always bring back the letter in the next film.

Yeah, I don't see the letter as a cop out at all. This was Cap's doing, not Tony's. And Cap wasn't even mad at Tony at the end. Just doing what he had to to protect his best friend. He's not the kind of guy who would let something like that get in the way of his doing the right thing to serve mankind. Tony told Cap to give up the shield, and seemed to really write off their friendship, and Cap obliged. But that's about as far as it went.

I thought she was wasted and only reason she was in it was to give Cap a love interest

Agreed. I was hoping she would develop into more of a player here, but just more of the same we saw in Winter Soldier. Another forgettable supporting female character like Maria Hill.

 

[Darkseed]

I'm indifferent to the styles, think they can both work for each universe and deliver a good final product, personally BvS failed at that as the execution was terrible, leaving a bad cinematic experience, like I said to many wtf moments

Differing styles is a good thing IMO ... it provides each co. a different medium to tell their story. I am not one to say the execution was bad for BvS....reading comments it is full of easter eggs for comic fans to enjoy and piece together. I haven't read comics forever therefore a lot of the easter eggs left me baffled and confused. I do agree the editing was disjointed that along with the confusion around the easter eggs made it less enjoyable for me.