Clerks III - 2022

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Full circle..

JJ breaks Ford’s leg in TFA

Ford breaks his hot toys leg on latenight

Jay breaks Ford’s leg at the quickstop

Yup, Ford's body will land on the sidewalk, Silent Bob will say, "Dew it!!" and Jay will finish the job.

 

[jye4ever]

Oto is right though I was blown away in 95 watching Star Wars being discussed in such a manner I wanted to hang out with those characters from Clerks 1 lol

I hated Clerks 2

 

[GhostBeard]

He was just in the right place at the right time. He just squeaked in to Hollywood before the internet. The internet made him completely irrelevant. In 1995, Mallrats was a big deal cause we'd never seen a mainstream movie making constant references to Star Wars and Marvel comics. A few years later, he'd be just a drop in an ocean of similar pudgy bearded nerds with snarky sarcastic comments about pop culture and obsessed with raunch and sex. He basically won the lottery.

He's not that good a filmmaker, not that great a writer.....he's entertaining enough to listen to if you just wanna shoot the ****, but so is almost every nerd online.

I really liked his stuff at the time but I can't watch most of it now...just so painfully dated and amateurish. And his new stuff is even worse than his old stuff. Whoever said that the only thing he's really good for anymore is when he dishes dirt on the things he's seen in Hollywood is right.

That's as good an assessment of the man's career that I've ever read. I recall vividly watching Clerks for the 1st time w/friends and we died laughing, bad acting and all. Mallrats had moments. I watched J&SB Strike Back in the desert on deployment with a guy who'd never seen any of his stuff and he was shocked (back then) at the raunchiness, but all I remember was the only time Ben Affleck ever entertained me with his dead hooker joke. I've avoided all else at all costs. Even his Green Arrow run I recall being exceptionally wordy. His irrelevance, as you pointed out, is exacerbated by limitations.

I do remember way back when that he was being offered Green Hornet with a possible George Clooney involvement and he wrote that it wouldn't have been a good idea unless they wanted GH and Kato just hanging around talking. So he at least had some idea of all that he could do back then.

 

[a-dev]

Looking forward to it.

Aaannd Kevin Smith bashing in 3, 2, 1.......

 

[Johnny Utah]

Watching it for Dante and Randal. Clerks 2 was needlessly vulgar aside from their writing.

I mean, the horse? Or was it a donkey?

 

[jye4ever]

Looking forward to it.

Aaannd Kevin Smith bashing in 3, 2, 1.......

That looks absolutely horrible I am so embarrassed for him lol

And that’s coming from someone who thinks Clerks 1 is a masterpiece up there with the best comedies ever made!

 

[JMT1979]

That looks absolutely horrible I am so embarrassed for him lol

Yeah, I'm with you there. Hopefully it's better than the trailer, but I haven't loved anything from Kevin Smith since the 20th century.

 

[jye4ever]

If it’s as bad as Clerks 2 we are in trouble.

 

[MeatHookGekko]

And I say this as a guy that practically worshiped this dude in the 90s. He should have just quit while he was ahead after Dogma, or stuck to experimenting like he did in "Red State," cause the constant rehashes of his original movie is just tiresome and pathetic.

I read an article years ago where a celebrity was discussing the impact of when a person shifts from only being around other every day non famous people to ONLY being surrounded all day by other famous celebrities.

I suspect that's what happened to Kevin Smith. His "Evening With Kevin Smith" was fantastic. He's a great story teller. His tone then was very regular and down to Earth and he seemed like anyone you'd meet anywhere in life, just a pretty cool and interesting person. Then over time, it's clear he was a "celebrity", and like the article said, only surrounded by the total circle jerk of other wealthy powerful people with huge platforms and being told how awesome they were all the time.

I'll say this much for Kevin Smith, he clearly hooked up all his old friends. I mean he got them jobs and careers and lifestyles they probably wouldn't have otherwise.

Would you or I or anyone else here handle that kind of fame? Honesty I don't know. It's a tough question. If you are told every day that you are so awesome that the world should suck you off, then wouldn't you eventually feel entitled to have the universe just up and blow you?

It's interesting what some people do to keep their sanity. Daniel Day Lewis is apparently a full time cobbler when he's not acting. Chris Pratt lives a survivalist lifestyle when he's not fighting dinosaurs or Thanos.

More than likely that Smith needs the money. Make more, spend more.

 

[jye4ever]

I read an article years ago where a celebrity was discussing the impact of when a person shifts from only being around other every day non famous people to ONLY being surrounded all day by other famous celebrities.

I suspect that's what happened to Kevin Smith. His "Evening With Kevin Smith" was fantastic. He's a great story teller. His tone then was very regular and down to Earth and he seemed like anyone you'd meet anywhere in life, just a pretty cool and interesting person. Then over time, it's clear he was a "celebrity", and like the article said, only surrounded by the total circle jerk of other wealthy powerful people with huge platforms and being told how awesome they were all the time.

I'll say this much for Kevin Smith, he clearly hooked up all his old friends. I mean he got them jobs and careers and lifestyles they probably wouldn't have otherwise.

Would you or I or anyone else here handle that kind of fame? Honesty I don't know. It's a tough question. If you are told every day that you are so awesome that the world should suck you off, then wouldn't you eventually feel entitled to have the universe just up and blow you?

It's interesting what some people do to keep their sanity. Daniel Day Lewis is apparently a full time cobbler when he's not acting. Chris Pratt lives a survivalist lifestyle when he's not fighting dinosaurs or Thanos.

More than likely that Smith needs the money. Make more, spend more.

Epic post.

Lots of money for me would mean lots of girl on girl orgies, fast cars, real home cinema, tons of jazzinc, sideshow and hot toys!

I never have done cocaine but I would start if the orgies called for them lol

Lotto don’t fail me now!

 

[Otomofan]

Before social media, he used to blog, and that was also a bit ahead of its time for most celebrities. Now, they all have teams of people faking their tweets and doing pre-posed instagram shoots and product endorsements, but very few of them actually had REAL websites where they'd just communicate openly and honestly with their fans.

As I said, in the 90s the guy was like a god a to me. He was literally the first of "us" to make it big. He'd even read and respond to messages and stuff back then.

I saw him give a talk at Ohio State around '98 or so and he talked and took questions for like 4 hours, and then he stayed as long as it took to give and autograph and take a picture with every single person that wanted to see him. He must have been there til dawn. I still have the two books he signed for me.

That was a cool as hell, down to earth dude that appreciated everything that he had in life, appreciated how lucky he was to be in that position, and appreciated the people that paid money to get him to that point.

I remember reading his blog a bit later, and he was talking about his home theater in his mansion in LA, and how he was getting a manicure and pedicure that day, and that was around the time I realized he'd lost touch with us lowly normies. He was living the Hollywood lifestyle now. He no longer cared about being the guy from Jersey. He'd had a taste of the good life and it was clear he was now gonna do whatever it took to hold on to it. In other words....he sold out.

Yes, props to him for hooking up his friends in his movies and helping them financially beyond their wildest dreams. That's awesome.

Boo to him for being a sellout and yet another hang-on to the crybully politically correct Hollywood elite that wants to preach to us, rather than entertain us. His last movie about Jay and Silent Bob was such a disgusting , pandering, tone-deaf, soulless piece of trash, not to mention the blatant nepotism of giving his homely daughter her own MOVIE, that I had to turn it off.

But in the grand scheme of things, that's just a minor quibble. I have nothing against the man on a personal level. I'm very glad we didn't lose him when he had that major heart attack. While I consider myself finished with him "professionally" I still respect and admire him for what he did over two decades ago, but other than his auto-biography, I haven't enjoyed any of his work from this century with the exception of "Red State." And I didn't even LIKE Red State at all....I found it a thoroughly unpleasant viewing experience, but it was such a departure from his usual rut that I admire him for his sincere attempt to grow and develop as an artist.

Anyway.....no ill will toward the guy at all, but I prefer to remember the "cool older brother nerd that struck it rich" Kevin Smith from 1993-1998 than the soulless Hollywood sell-out "anything for a buck" Kevin Smith we have now.

I will NOT be watching Clerks III......not even for free.

 

[jye4ever]

Before social media, he used to blog, and that was also a bit ahead of its time for most celebrities. Now, they all have teams of people faking their tweets and doing pre-posed instagram shoots and product endorsements, but very few of them actually had REAL websites where they'd just communicate openly and honestly with their fans.

As I said, in the 90s the guy was like a god a to me. He was literally the first of "us" to make it big. He'd even read and respond to messages and stuff back then.

I saw him give a talk at Ohio State around '98 or so and he talked and took questions for like 4 hours, and then he stayed as long as it took to give and autograph and take a picture with every single person that wanted to see him. He must have been there til dawn. I still have the two books he signed for me.

That was a cool as hell, down to earth dude that appreciated everything that he had in life, appreciated how lucky he was to be in that position, and appreciated the people that paid money to get him to that point.

I remember reading his blog a bit later, and he was talking about his home theater in his mansion in LA, and how he was getting a manicure and pedicure that day, and that was around the time I realized he'd lost touch with us lowly normies. He was living the Hollywood lifestyle now. He no longer cared about being the guy from Jersey. He'd had a taste of the good life and it was clear he was now gonna do whatever it took to hold on to it. In other words....he sold out.

Yes, props to him for hooking up his friends in his movies and helping them financially beyond their wildest dreams. That's awesome.

Boo to him for being a sellout and yet another hang-on to the crybully politically correct Hollywood elite that wants to preach to us, rather than entertain us. His last movie about Jay and Silent Bob was such a disgusting , pandering, tone-deaf, soulless piece of trash, not to mention the blatant nepotism of giving his homely daughter her own MOVIE, that I had to turn it off.

But in the grand scheme of things, that's just a minor quibble. I have nothing against the man on a personal level. I'm very glad we didn't lose him when he had that major heart attack. While I consider myself finished with him "professionally" I still respect and admire him for what he did over two decades ago, but other than his auto-biography, I haven't enjoyed any of his work from this century with the exception of "Red State." And I didn't even LIKE Red State at all....I found it a thoroughly unpleasant viewing experience, but it was such a departure from his usual rut that I admire him for his sincere attempt to grow and develop as an artist.

Anyway.....no ill will toward the guy at all, but I prefer to remember the "cool older brother nerd that struck it rich" Kevin Smith from 1993-1998 than the soulless Hollywood sell-out "anything for a buck" Kevin Smith we have now.

I will NOT be watching Clerks III......not even for free.

Savage lol

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I won't watch this in theaters, but I will watch it eventually to see them recreate scenes from the first Clerks film. I curious to see how close they can get.

 

[Johnny Utah]

We need more of Jason Lee as Brodie if anything. He was always the best thing in those movies.

 

[Otomofan]

Well the fact that this is officially out and all of us old school comic book/toy/movie nerds haven't even talked about it speaks volumes, doesn't it?

I'm staying true to my word about not watching it, even for free, but I did read some spoilery reviews.

Spoiler

Apparently Rosario Dawson's character married Dante and they had a kid, and then she and the kid are killed in a car crash. Brutal. So she's not even in the movie. And then at the end Dante dies too. Super brutal. It's supposed to be super depressing and morbid throughout. Doesn't sound like fun.

Personally, I don't find the "remake the original 30 years later" gimmick interesting at all. If I ever felt like re-living Clerks, I'd just watch Clerks again. I do like seeing casts reunited after a long time, but not if they're just gonna recite the same material. I skimmed through that last movie just to see Ben Affleck and Jason Lee and everyone again, but I don't think I can do it again for this one. I think I'm super done with Kevin Smith.

 

[a-dev]

Regarding that spoiler

 

[Wor-Gar]

in the 90s the guy was like a god a to me. He was literally the first of "us" to make it big. He'd even read and respond to messages and stuff back then.

Sad. For the "us". Kevin Smith was always an untalented schlub who lucked out with some friends who became important. And he used them. He had a moderate talent for "small talk"... mostly famous because he plugged in funny Star Wars discussions. Wow -- a God.

I'll admit, he can tell a good story on his tours, and make Hollywood seem like an insane place (like his Giant Spider/Superman story)... but if he had genuine talent he would not have been dismissed from every studio in town considering who he was friends with. And he's still trying to push his old wares like everyone else.