Daredevil Born Again (Disney+) - March 4, 2025

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Episode 2 is a lot better than episode 1, just as a stand-alone narrative story. TV storytelling is a hard job, and I never envy the people that do it. Overall I like this next volume for MCU DD so far and appreciate the balance they are tying to strike. I diliked the over-use of cgi, etc in the first episode. Showing DD suddenly come from no where and make that rooftop landing would have been epic.
 
I did a rewatch of Season 3 before coming into this season. It's a bit jarring really in tone and the use of CG. I'm OK with Matt swinging around, but I was not a fan of how the first fight was edited.

The whole Fisk and Vanessa issue seems on point with what happened on Season 3. Vanessa always wanted to be "in" Fisk's world so she can be with Fisk. But the events of Hawkeye and Echo shook things up for Fisk, so I get how he would disappear and re-appear as a changed person.

Did Matt just kill that cop at the end of ep 2? I thought I heard a neck snap.
 
I did a rewatch of Season 3 before coming into this season. It's a bit jarring really in tone and the use of CG. I'm OK with Matt swinging around, but I was not a fan of how the first fight was edited.

The whole Fisk and Vanessa issue seems on point with what happened on Season 3. Vanessa always wanted to be "in" Fisk's world so she can be with Fisk. But the events of Hawkeye and Echo shook things up for Fisk, so I get how he would disappear and re-appear as a changed person.

Did Matt just kill that cop at the end of ep 2? I thought I heard a neck snap.
we aren't sure ( no one is) but it definitely looks that way.
I hope they clarify if he did
 
Episode 1 spoiler, so feel free to click if you have seen the first episode already!

People who complain about Foggy's death are the same people who complain about other shows/movies that characters have "plot armour" and that there's no stakes if nobody gets hurt or dies

I'm not sure if we are allowing open discussion about the episodes that have aired yet? ie. no spoiler tags?
 
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People who complain about Foggy's death are the same people who complain about other shows/movies that characters have "plot armour" and that there's no stakes if nobody gets hurt or dies
I feel like people can no longer handle when media gives them an emotional response. You're not supposed to be happy that he died, that's the point. :lol
 
I think they may be tackling Matt killing people this season. Why else would he seek out Frank for help?

I think this has been hinted at;

TV Spot;

Punisher - "Red, you're angry, aren't you? I can see it on you, it's all over you. You hate yourself. It's eating you up because you ain't done a damn thing about it. I don't think you came here for my help. I think you want my permission, Red. You wanna get your hands on someone, you wanna hurt them. Maybe you're a little bit scared about what that means. But it's gonna keep eating, and eating, and eating, cause you know they're breathing the same air that you're breathing."

And in the first episode;

Matt - "As you know, I've stood in this court may times. Delivered summations, called witnesses, and defended the innocent to the best of my ability. Though as I sit here, on the other side of the court, it occurs to me that justice will not be served today...*omitting spoilers*... but in the absence of justice, the court can punish this man. And I urge you to do so, to the fullest extent the law allows. Because that punishment, that is the closest any of us will ever get to justice."

Now, I understand that in the second example he is talking about punishment by the law and from the courts, ie. the imprisonment of criminals and not the killing of criminals. But, I think it shows a shift in his mindset that he now believes the law will never achieve the justice that he believes that these criminals deserve. He now views these people through the lens of "punishment", rather than "justice". By it's very definition, "punishment" is not tied into law in the same way that "justice" is. In Matt's mind, the law and "justice" now appear to be secondary to inflicting "punishment". Today, the punishment of imprisonment is the closest he thinks we can get to justice, maybe tomorrow it's the punishment of death.
 
/\NOPE NOT CLICKING LOL/\
Haha, it's a spoiler about episode 1, so you're good!

I'm not sure if we are allowing discussion about episode 1 and 2 to be free of spoiler tags yet?

*I have now edited my post to make it clear that it is an Episode 1 spoiler, nothing about a future episode :)
 
I think this has been hinted at;

TV Spot;

Punisher - "Red, you're angry, aren't you? I can see it on you, it's all over you. You hate yourself. It's eating you up because you ain't done a damn thing about it. I don't think you came here for my help. I think you want my permission, Red. You wanna get your hands on someone, you wanna hurt them. Maybe you're a little bit scared about what that means. But it's gonna keep eating, and eating, and eating, cause you know they're breathing the same air that you're breathing."

And in the first episode;

Matt - "As you know, I've stood in this court may times. Delivered summations, called witnesses, and defended the innocent to the best of my ability. Though as I sit here, on the other side of the court, it occurs to me that justice will not be served today...*omitting spoilers*... but in the absence of justice, the court can punish this man. And I urge you to do so, to the fullest extent the law allows. Because that punishment, that is the closest any of us will ever get to justice."

Now, I understand that in the second example he is talking about punishment by the law and from the courts, ie. the imprisonment of criminals and not the killing of criminals. But, I think it shows a shift in his mindset that he now believes the law will never achieve the justice that he sees these criminals deserve. He know views these people through the lens of "punishment", rather than "justice". By it's very definition, "punishment" is not tied into law in the same way that "justice" is. In Matt's mind, the law and "justice" now appear to be secondary to inflicting "punishment". Today, the punishment of imprisonment is the closest he thinks we can get to justice, maybe tomorrow it's the punishment of death.
Season 1: Matt losing his way even more so than before, becomes much darker and doesn't care about killing.

Season 2: Matt redeeming himself and finally becoming the Daredevil that the city needs.
 
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