Do you like Marvel Open Edition Statues?

[devilof76]

They piss off one kind of consumer. The other kind is happy with their decision, or could care less.

It's because they're heartless. They could give a damn if Sideshow makes 30,000 Galactus PF's. Your agony is meaningless to them.

 

[pins79]

Happy? About what? They're increasing their revenue at the cost of diluted down products of inferior QC and collector value. I can't see how any collector would like that.

Agony? I don't agonize over this crap.

 

[devilof76]

Diluted quality has nothing to do with edition size.

Pick a lane.

 

[gagaliya]

i get the buy what you like and keep forever so value doesnt matter argument, most of us here buy because we like and intend to keep.

But wouldnt it be better if what we bought have retained its original price or went up in value over time just in case you need to sell it. Why would you ever wish your own collection of statues to drop in value and worth less than what you paid?

And that's not even going into the whole definition of collectible = limited edition discussion...

I just dont understand people sometimes...

 

[INFECDEAD]

i get the buy what you like and keep forever so value doesnt matter argument, most of us here buy because we like and intend to keep.

But wouldnt it be better if what we bought have retained its original price or went up in value over time just in case you need to sell it. Why would you ever wish your own collection of statues to drop in value and worth less than what you paid?

And that's not even going into the whole definition of collectible = limited edition discussion...

I just dont understand people sometimes...

People like blood sausage too. People are morons.

 

[dino76m]

i think we need 2 sepertate threads for this
1, do u like TBD Es for the 1/5 scale and 1/4 products
2.do u like open editions for overpriced Maquettes and LSF line

right now the discussion is going nowhere with people mixing it up

 

[vangeta]

Forget the collectors, they don't know what they want.

NECA under produced the initial portal gun for collectors sake and now everyone is _____ing about not being to own one. Now all the flippers are flocking around these items and screwing with demand.

If you feel like you have to break even selling your collectibles down the end of the road, you really don't have disposable income for this hobby. This isn't an endless cycle where everyone can dump their stuff for what they bought it for, some schmuck is going to eventually be on the losing end. Never invest in something that isn't productive.

If you have to think twice about buying a piece and gamble grabbing it at a discount, you didn't want it that bad anyway. Lego set 10195 was discontinued a few months ago and whatever remaining inventory retailers had left was clearance from $250 to $180. Of course it didn't last long at $180 when all the flippers hoarded it out at the price. Fast forward a few months and it's selling way above retail on ebay.

lol @ the people who miss the days of F5ing and seeing a item sell out instantly. Really?

 

[Theokan]

The problem is when a company starts selling an open edition item with the same price tag as a limited one.

The price of a limited item is usually marked up in order to meet the combine profit margin due to the smaller quantities being sold in a limited run. It's the same concept as, say, the less people are buying kites, the higher price you would need to sell them in order to stay in business. So now that SSC have established a price tag for limited items, if they start selling open ES items at the same price, they are essentially double dipping. That's why some people feel it's not worth the same price tag if something is sold with an open ES.

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[Stampe]

Yup, to piss alot of try hard wanna be elite collectors off.

 

[Awesome]

I don't understand how difficult it is for people to grasp the term " limited collectible ", they are not supposed to be a made for each order item. There is no reason for people to defend the destruction of a hobby where these statues that are LIMITED are hard to find, that is the whole point.

The only reason why Sideshow has some of their items open is because they are trying to maximize profit on these to cover losses on their other items due to their contractors that they have in China being inept and Sideshow themselves not taking care of the statues before they are boxed up.

to greatwall, so wanting to buy an item like these that are officially licensed and not wanting it to instantly have their value deflate is an " elite " collector? Some of you clearly don't make any sense at all. It's fine if you guys have no problem supporting a company that is contradicting their whole point of existing but don't think that everybody is okay with it.

 

[fuzzylojiks]

Yes, sometimes statues skyrocket in price in the secondary market but then again, sometimes statues are duds and backfire on flippers. I figure things even out and hopefully it keeps the number of flippers in check that way.

Yep, people don't take into the account the duds that can't sell well. They only look one way and get hit by the truck from the other side. But NRD already took away risk free flipping and has curtailed the numbers well enough on it's own.

Happy? About what? They're increasing their revenue at the cost of diluted down products of inferior QC and collector value. I can't see how any collector would like that.

Agony? I don't agonize over this crap.

Yep, larger edition sizes may be harder to QC well. Lots of smart people realize these are connected.

The problem is when a company starts selling an open edition item with the same price tag as a limited one.

The price of a limited item is usually marked up in order to meet the combine profit margin due to the smaller quantities being sold in a limited run. It's the same concept as, say, the less people are buying kites, the higher price you would need to sell them in order to stay in business. So now that SSC have established a price tag for limited items, if they start selling open ES items at the same price, they are essentially double dipping. That's why some people feel it's not worth the same price tag if something is sold with an open ES.

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I think you hit the nail right on the head there. Limited editions are sold at a premium as the exclusivity is factored into the price, if the edition size increases or it becomes open edition, the price should logically go down. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be trending that way.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

I don't understand how difficult it is for people to grasp the term " limited collectible ", they are not supposed to be a made for each order item. There is no reason for people to defend the destruction of a hobby where these statues that are LIMITED are hard to find, that is the whole point.

The only reason why Sideshow has some of their items open is because they are trying to maximize profit on these to cover losses on their other items due to their contractors that they have in China being inept and Sideshow themselves not taking care of the statues before they are boxed up.

to greatwall, so wanting to buy an item like these that are officially licensed and not wanting it to instantly have their value deflate is an " elite " collector? Some of you clearly don't make any sense at all. It's fine if you guys have no problem supporting a company that is contradicting their whole point of existing but don't think that everybody is okay with it.

What makes no sense is people not understanding that the
LE items are made to order. If 10 are ordered in a batch, 10 are produced. The factory has to stop & start constantly. Molds have to be remade, paint has to be remixed. Boxes have to be remade

Sideshow isn't making thousands of these and sitting on them. The run will be retired at some point. There won't be a ____ ton made I can tell you that

 

[Ramatuelle]

The only reason why Sideshow has some of their items open is because they are trying to maximize profit on these to cover losses on their other items due to their contractors that they have in China being inept and Sideshow themselves not taking care of the statues before they are boxed up.

1. How dare Sideshow try to maximize profit?!!! They are not a business, they are a charitable organization whose sole purpose is to provide ultra-die-hard collectors fantabulous special editions in an edition no larger than 10.

2. The statues are made and boxed in China. They're not made, shipped over to CA and then boxed; they are boxed in China.

Since the average Chinese worker makes in a whole day whan you or I make in five minutes, of course they don't care about kid-gloving these collectibles. If I were getting paid that little I would not care either. However the outsourcing of jobs that belong here in the US is an entirely other issue.

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

What makes no sense is people not understanding that the
LE items are made to order. If 10 are ordered in a batch, 10 are produced. The factory has to stop & start constantly. Molds have to be remade, paint has to be remixed. Boxes have to be remade

Sideshow isn't making thousands of these and sitting on them. The run will be retired at some point. There won't be a ____ ton made I can tell you that

1. How dare Sideshow try to maximize profit?!!! They are not a business, they are a charitable organization whose sole purpose is to provide ultra-die-hard collectors fantabulous special editions in an edition no larger than 10.

2. The statues are made and boxed in China. They're not made, shipped over to CA and then boxed; they are boxed in China.

Since the average Chinese worker makes in a whole day whan you or I make in five minutes, of course they don't care about kid-gloving these collectibles. If I were getting paid that little I would not care either. However the outsourcing of jobs that belong here in the US is an entirely other issue.

 

[Awesome]

What makes no sense is people not understanding that the
LE items are made to order. If 10 are ordered in a batch, 10 are produced. The factory has to stop & start constantly. Molds have to be remade, paint has to be remixed. Boxes have to be remade

Sideshow isn't making thousands of these and sitting on them. The run will be retired at some point. There won't be a ____ ton made I can tell you that

How do you know for sure that they will ever stop production on a piece if it keeps on selling? That makes no sense.

 

[Awesome]

1. How dare Sideshow try to maximize profit?!!! They are not a business, they are a charitable organization whose sole purpose is to provide ultra-die-hard collectors fantabulous special editions in an edition no larger than 10.

2. The statues are made and boxed in China. They're not made, shipped over to CA and then boxed; they are boxed in China.

Since the average Chinese worker makes in a whole day whan you or I make in five minutes, of course they don't care about kid-gloving these collectibles. If I were getting paid that little I would not care either. However the outsourcing of jobs that belong here in the US is an entirely other issue.

You quoted one paragraph out of the three I posted and disregarded the other two because what I wrote was correct and you have no argument against it. It's pretty clear what you did.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

How do you know for sure that they will ever stop production on a piece if it keeps on selling? That makes no sense.

I give up. I think I'd rather talk to a wall

 

[pins79]

1. How dare Sideshow try to maximize profit?!!! They are not a business, they are a charitable organization whose sole purpose is to provide ultra-die-hard collectors fantabulous special editions in an edition no larger than 10.

2. The statues are made and boxed in China. They're not made, shipped over to CA and then boxed; they are boxed in China.

Since the average Chinese worker makes in a whole day whan you or I make in five minutes, of course they don't care about kid-gloving these collectibles. If I were getting paid that little I would not care either. However the outsourcing of jobs that belong here in the US is an entirely other issue.

Jesus Christ. Of course SSC is a business. And yes, businesses can only remain open so long as they are profitable. In fact, the name of the game really is to maximize profits. Yes, we all understand this basic principle.

The problem, as others have pointed out, is that Sideshow is a collectibles company. And thus, a big part of their business model that allows them to remain successful and to charge a premium for an item is the collector value of a limited edition product. Yes, there's something to be said about the value of statues as pieces of art as well...but when the statues are mass produced by someone thousands of miles away making a few dollars a day, it loses some of that value as well.

The statues are cool, but they're not as cool when they're mass produced with QC issues (which is already a HUGE problem) and when we are still paying 300% over the actual cost to make the product.

 

[electroshock]

 

[Awesome]

I give up. I think I'd rather talk to a wall

Go ahead, you didn't need to tell me that.