Doctor Who - Spoilers!

[Magpie 7]

I heard Rupert Grint was is the running. We'd see the Doctor finally react to being ginger...

I'd rather not see Ron Weasley as the Doctor. He's too identifiable with the one role to ever be the Doctor.

Whenever the TARDIS misbehaves I'd hear him saying "Bloody Hell!"

I heard that the same day as the "official" announcement Of Smith's leaving, my first thought was

Too young, too ginger, whats needed is to go with a more mature actor...

 

[lerath666]

I heard Rupert Grint was is the running. We'd see the Doctor finally react to being ginger...

I'd rather not see Ron Weasley as the Doctor. He's too identifiable with the one role to ever be the Doctor.

Whenever the TARDIS misbehaves I'd hear him saying "Bloody Hell!"

I heard that the same day as the "official" announcement Of Smith's leaving, my first thought was

Too young, too ginger, whats needed is to go with a more mature actor...

Smith was born in 1982 ( ha, he's 31, same as me)

Gint was born in 1988, so he's 25. only a 6 year difference.

Yeah, ok, I could see that as Doctor who.


While we're looking at potter actors, how about


Ralph Fiennes

or Tom Felton

 

[Calcifer]

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[TheObsoleteMan]

I've always wanted to see the Doctor take down a Dalek with a Macho Man flying elbow. This new guy's gonna be awesome!

 

[Magpie 7]

Smith was born in 1982 ( ha, he's 31, same as me)

Gint was born in 1988, so he's 25. only a 6 year difference.

Yeah, ok, I could see that as Doctor who.

The thing is with Smith you can actually believe he's a 900 year old alien time traveler, his mannerism's alone give you a feeling of maturity. Fienes would be a decent choice but i can't see him being involved in a 'kids tv series'.

 

[Kamandi]

Take with a grain of salt but I hope this is true - Bleeding Cool is reporting a very large collection of "lost" Hartnell and Troughton episodes has been uncovered.

There's a fair amount of speculation in the story but it sounds like a decent trove. The story suggests BBC will have an announcement about the recovered episodes later this year as part of the 50th.

Ain't it Cool News and other movie site have used Bleeding Cool as a source in the past, so they do have some credibility.

I hope this turns out to be something.

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/0...e-a-very-special-surprise-for-us-in-november/

 

[pixletwin]

I shudder at the thought of THE COMPLETE HARTNELL...


But yes, I will not get excited. I will not get excited. I will not get excited.

(I'm getting excited... please at least find Power of the Daleks episode 1)

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[TheObsoleteMan]

A massive grain of salt, but yeah, any new Troughton stories would be huge. Will we finally get to see Power of the Daleks or The Abominable Snowmen?

 

[Kamandi]

It's a lot to hope for and other websites have made such announcements before. But Bleeding Cool would really be trashing their name if this turns out to be crap so I'm hoping this is solid.

I have always wanted to see The Dalek's Master Plan and The Evil of the Daleks. To think it might be possible is almost too much to hope for.

 

[pixletwin]

The Daleks Master Plan is one of my favorite Hartnell stories. I would love to see Sarah Kingdom's death scene finally.

 

[JonWes]

Oh man. I want this to be true.
I would dearly love more Troughton. He's pretty shafted as far as Doctor's go for existing episodes.

 

[drdandalek]

Oh man. I want this to be true.
I would dearly love more Troughton. He's pretty shafted as far as Doctor's go for existing episodes.

I agree. Troughton is definitely in my top 3 Doctors(right behind Tom and Jon). If I see Power of the Daleks, I'll be ecstatic. I love my Loose Cannon recons nut nothing takes the place of the real thing. To me, Pat was actually the first heroic Doctor as Hartnell was kind of old to play the swashbuckling hero. That's why he had Ian and then Ben. Don't get me wrong as I love Hartnells Doctor but he just wasn't active I guess you'd say. Lol.

 

[Magpie 7]

I'd love to see them colorise the episodes too.

 

[Kamandi]

Well, this is pretty damn depressing... This is from Bleeding Cool, the source I quoted last week. The author opens up with more details and then says there's a chance the BBC was conned.

Source: https://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/06/17/more-on-those-missing-doctor-who-episodes-or-less/

Today I feel I have entered into, however briefly, a Doctor Who cabal made up of superfans, Doctor Who writers past and present, producers, managers and executive types. And then been kicked to the kerb.

A few months ago, I came across rumours that there were a huge amount of the missing Doctor Who episodes about to be returned to the BBC. Then I heard it again. And then I heard it from someone who really should know one way or another. So last week, I ran the rumours on Bleeding Cool, stating that’s exactly what they were.

And all hell broke loose. Some were confirming the stories, some were denying it. But what was clear was that I’d broken the dam on a huge pent up amount of hope, fear and despair that had remained on message boards, in pub meetups, some behind private member forums and firewalls since late last year.

I’m now going to give you more details on the rumoured missing episodes that are reported to have been found.

Of the one hundred and six missing episodes, they comprise ninety of them. The only ones not included are nine episodes of The Dalek Master Plan, plus Mission To The Unknown, two episodes of The Invasion, two episodes of The Ice Warriors, and two episodes of The Wheel In Space.

So that’s not quite The Full Hartnell, but it’s pretty close. And that’s an awful lot more Troughton than I was expecting.

And that the BBC have been negotiating their safe return. That Steven Moffat, Russell T Davies, Mark Gatiss, Caroline Skinner, all the main players, the Cardiff production office, Doctor Who Magazine are aware of what’s happening.

But this is bigger than Doctor Who. This is eight thousand recovered films including the likes of missing Dad’s Army, Out Of The Unknown, Morecambe And Wise, The Sky At Night and more. Including ninety missing Doctor Who films and potentially better quality prints of already recovered shows. Such as three separate sets of Doctor Who: Marco Polo – one poor quality, two in excellent nick.

And I was told, and by a member of the cloth, no less, that at a convention a few weeks ago, ex-Who producer Andrew Cartmel told a small group of 15-20 people in Atlanta to expect news about returned episodes very soon. Though now he tweets:


@DreadSinister Sorry, I don’t have any special knowledge about this. I hope they find all of them, though.

— Andrew Cartmel (@andrewcartmel) June 15, 2013


But – and here is where it goes all sour – there is an increasing belief by people involved in this that it is a massive hoax perpetrated against the BBC, by a man playing up his own eccentricities for negotiation purposes, but at no point giving any real evidence that he had copies of the episodes in question.

And that huge amounts of time, effort and money have been spent on something that just isn’t there. That so many senior people were conned, partly through offering them wish fulfilment, partly by them not wanting to give up the hope that these episodes could exist somewhere.

With that knowledge ringing in my ears, I was kicked out of the TARDIS, deposited on Earth in the 21st century and was left, with Vworp Vworp ringing in my ears. Now I know how Tegan felt.

All I’m left is with ex-Who script consultant and a man responsible for us having as many episodes as we do, Ian Levine, tweeting:


“There will always be 106 Doctor Who episodes missing”. And yes you can quote me on that.

— Ian Levine (@IanLevine) June 15, 2013



My previous tweet was not ironic. I too wanted to believe ninety episodes had been found. I now believe none have been found. A massive hoax

— Ian Levine (@IanLevine) June 15, 2013


I can’t give up like that however. Lots of people have been imvolved with this story, in a avariety of degrees, I find it hard to believe all could have been fooled. Also, there is such a coverup around these episodes, such an official silence, that it feels in my gut that there has to be something to justify it.

And even if it is all just a hoax, remember, those episodes were transmitted fifty years ago. However faint, distorted and diluted, those signals have travelled fifty light years from Earth now, passing all manner of solar systems. One of them may host sentient life with interstellar flight technology, and may have the skills to capture and enhance those signals. And a spacecraft might be currently heading towards us ready to drop them off.

I mean, any contact with an alien race would be amazing. But even more so if they brought back old episodes of Doctor Who with them, yes?

Bleeding Cool reports rumours and news. These are most definitely rumours repeated at the highest levels, and we now have more details. But they remain rumours.

And those repeating them, like us, all want to believe...

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

Whenever rumors of a big cache of lost episodes being found pop up, I just automatically assume it's bs. It would be nice, but I think it's pretty much a pipe dream at this point.

 

[pixletwin]

Doesn't mean a thing. Why would anyone want to tell him anything after he forced their hand with the Matt Smith announcement? Besides which, until I hear something official from the BBC either way I will neither be too excited nor too disappointed.

 

[JonWes]

It was always a huge longshot, but this is just more ruminating on things they've heard. Nothing definitive yet.

 

[Kamandi]

I figured I would post the good and bad so nobody thinks I'm just trying to blow sunshine.

I will freely admit I had been hoping the recovered lost episodes were real but it's difficult to believe at this point.

 

[Magpie 7]

Why not just remake all the lost episodes with new people playing the roles, surely the DVD revenues would recover the costs?

 

[JonWes]

So... maybe this lost episode thing IS real?!?!?

The Doctor Who Missing Episodes Rumour Gains A Little More Weight. Three Tons Worth.

What a roller coaster.