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Is it just me, or is there a balance issue with Skyrim?

I don't know if I'm missing something, done a terrible job leveling up my character (maybe I should focus more on ranged abilities?) or what. I even tried cranking down the difficulty to the embarrassing "novice" level, and while some creatures are dying with a single hit, many of them are still incredibly frustrating to fight. I don't remember having nearly this much trouble with Oblivion.
 
Is it just me, or is there a balance issue with Skyrim?

I don't know if I'm missing something, done a terrible job leveling up my character (maybe I should focus more on ranged abilities?) or what. I even tried cranking down the difficulty to the embarrassing "novice" level, and while some creatures are dying with a single hit, many of them are still incredibly frustrating to fight. I don't remember having nearly this much trouble with Oblivion.

Hmm...what type of char are you running? Also what monsters or humanoids are you having trouble with? I play a stealth char so I kill most things including giants and mammoths in one hit, but if I botch up a sneak attack I have a hard time fighting more than one enemy at a time. If it's one on one I can still kite and use shouts.
 
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Is it just me, or is there a balance issue with Skyrim?

I don't know if I'm missing something, done a terrible job leveling up my character (maybe I should focus more on ranged abilities?) or what. I even tried cranking down the difficulty to the embarrassing "novice" level, and while some creatures are dying with a single hit, many of them are still incredibly frustrating to fight. I don't remember having nearly this much trouble with Oblivion.

It's because most of the enemies are leveling with you. Hence why Dragons turn into Blood Dragons, Dragurs into Restless, Wright, Scouge and Deathlords, Bandits into Highwaymen(i think) and such. But some don't level like the ones that hold the Bandit, or Dragur title. Those are the ones your killing with one hit/spell/arrow. The leveled ones are matched to you.
 
Is it just me, or is there a balance issue with Skyrim?

I don't know if I'm missing something, done a terrible job leveling up my character (maybe I should focus more on ranged abilities?) or what. I even tried cranking down the difficulty to the embarrassing "novice" level, and while some creatures are dying with a single hit, many of them are still incredibly frustrating to fight. I don't remember having nearly this much trouble with Oblivion.

Elder Scrolls games (and bethesda's Fallout games) typically don't have 'balance'. They allow you to create what you want, whether that means you end up with someone hugley underpowered or massively overpowered is up to you.

Oblivion was easy compared to their other games though.
 
They don't feel matched to me, they feel overmatched. In Oblivion, the trolls didn't turn up until you were reasonably prepared to face them. In Skyrim, they show up almost immediately, and they're complete juggernauts. And while the low-level dragons seemed manageable, the blood dragon is virtually unstoppable, killing me with just one or two hits. One ambushed me, and I was dead within about four seconds of its appearance.

My character is a melee-focused Nord, which I thought would be a reasonable combination. I'm too far in to bother with starting over, I just wish the game was a bit more forgiving on the novice level.
 
They don't feel matched to me, they feel overmatched. In Oblivion, the trolls didn't turn up until you were reasonably prepared to face them. In Skyrim, they show up almost immediately, and they're complete juggernauts. And while the low-level dragons seemed manageable, the blood dragon is virtually unstoppable, killing me with just one or two hits. One ambushed me, and I was dead within about four seconds of its appearance.

My character is a melee-focused Nord, which I thought would be a reasonable combination. I'm too far in to bother with starting over, I just wish the game was a bit more forgiving on the novice level.

I think you're comparing too much to Oblivion. They got it wrong in that game and have publicly admitted they got it wrong.

There implemented level scaling badly in that game and it took out all sense of danger.

You SHOULD see creatures (like trolls or blood dragons) and think 'oh crap! Run!' in the game.

I'm a melee focused Nord (heavy armor and two handed) and trust me, you'll level up enough as you play to handle those creatures.
 
Mine is two-handed as well. It just doesn't seem right that the player can initiate a mission, then get the tar kicked out of him until he decides to give up and come back later. I just got the Fire Shout, and I'm hoping that'll help with my next blood dragon encounter.
 
Mine is two-handed as well. It just doesn't seem right that the player can initiate a mission, then get the tar kicked out of him until he decides to give up and come back later. I just got the Fire Shout, and I'm hoping that'll help with my next blood dragon encounter.

Thats kind of the point man :D

Long time Elder Scrolls fans HATED how Oblivion was set up in that you could do anything at any time - including becoming the ultimate champion of the arena at level 1 and finishing the game by level 2. It completely defeated the purpose of leveling.

Enjoy the satisfaction of coming back to those 'too hard' missions later on when you're more powerful and can suddenly decapitate and impale the creatures you once ran from. :rock
 
I realized after stupidly hurling fireballs with my mage and getting owned by anything, that I needed to focus on Conjuration, Illusion, Alteration, and not so much Destruction. Holy crap. Getting Conjuration to level 100 and summoning two Dremora Lords to watch your back and then hurling Ice Storm while being encased in Ironflesh from a distance is insane.

Also, a cheap but effective way to level Conjuration up is to use Soul Trap on Shadowmere (Dark Brotherhood horse) over and over. Takes a while but well worth it for getting the dual Dremora Lords. I love what people say to me while walking around town with two bad ass Dremora Lords.
 
They don't feel matched to me, they feel overmatched. In Oblivion, the trolls didn't turn up until you were reasonably prepared to face them. In Skyrim, they show up almost immediately, and they're complete juggernauts. And while the low-level dragons seemed manageable, the blood dragon is virtually unstoppable, killing me with just one or two hits. One ambushed me, and I was dead within about four seconds of its appearance.

My character is a melee-focused Nord, which I thought would be a reasonable combination. I'm too far in to bother with starting over, I just wish the game was a bit more forgiving on the novice level.


Yes, the trolls showed up earlier than I thought they would. They were a bit pesky, but not too bad. If you're having problems with Blood Dragons then I wouldn't look forward to my first Frost Dragon if I were you...
 
I realized after stupidly hurling fireballs with my mage and getting owned by anything, that I needed to focus on Conjuration, Illusion, Alteration, and not so much Destruction. Holy crap. Getting Conjuration to level 100 and summoning two Dremora Lords to watch your back and then hurling Ice Storm while being encased in Ironflesh from a distance is insane.

Also, a cheap but effective way to level Conjuration up is to use Soul Trap on Shadowmere (Dark Brotherhood horse) over and over. Takes a while but well worth it for getting the dual Dremora Lords. I love what people say to me while walking around town with two bad ass Dremora Lords.

Or instead of wasting skill points you could just get the Sanguine Rose staff that summons a Dremora lord.
 
Mine is two-handed as well. It just doesn't seem right that the player can initiate a mission, then get the tar kicked out of him until he decides to give up and come back later. I just got the Fire Shout, and I'm hoping that'll help with my next blood dragon encounter.

Do you have a companion? If not, sounds like you need one.
 
Any tips on how to level enchanting?

It's costly, but just keep enchanting as much crap as possible. Preferably all of the jewelry you find. Mine's fairly high now, but unfortunately your enchantments don't become too powerful until you start climbing the perk tree, and I've been distracted with all of the other crap.
 
Any of you guys do the fortune telling quest for the Dark Brotherhood? I think I sold the little token you have to have so I'm SOL. Really wanted that Ancient Brotherhood armor too.
 
^^^I was under the assumption you couldn't sell or drop quest items so I'm not sure what's going on with your quest.

I'm working on smithing. I've made a bajillion iron daggers. It's not very profitable.

Any tips on how to level enchanting?

If you're still smithing daggers, enchant them with the most expensive enchant you can. You can check the price of the item before enchanting. I used paralyzing strike. I also picked up any dagger on my adventures to enchant since they weigh little.
 
Thanks for clearing it up for me, guys. My substantially beefier level 14 character can now topple the standard dragons with ease - not at a shameful difficulty level, either - and even the trolls seem surmountable. I still think they should provide better tutorial info in a game of this size and complexity, to at least let the player know, it's okay to run away sometimes.
 
lvl 20 now !

you guys know those 2 giants near whiterun up on that hill .. well went up there and kicked there asses. those guys are crazy.
about to go buy a house.
this game rocks !
 
Or instead of wasting skill points you could just get the Sanguine Rose staff that summons a Dremora lord.

True but the awesomeness of being able to summon 2 creatures at once is awesome. Having a Storm Thrall (which doesn't disappear after X seconds) and a Dremora Lord at the same time will take down a Blood Dragon with ease.
 
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