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Oil rose Thursday in part on comments by OPEC officials; the organization's president predicted prices will rise further, and a top Libyan oil official suggested his nation may cut production.

https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080627/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_prices

predictions and suggestions? we're getting screwed people. how can the powers that be allow this to continue?

one important question that i have yet to hear asked to the two presidential candidates. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT GAS PRICES!!!???
 
Thx for the info captain yahoo. BTW "the powers that be" own you. And don't give a ^^^^ about you.

So yeah, were screwed and it's only the beginning.
Have a nice day! :)
 
Thx for the info captain yahoo. BTW "the powers that be" own you. And don't give a ^^^^ about you.

So yeah, were screwed and it's only the beginning.
Have a nice day! :)

and acceptance as you have just displayed is part of the problem. i don't have any answers however think of it this way, if a rape victim doesn't confront her/his attacker, they will continue to get raped. if you don't like what you're paying at the pump, be vocal. if you're happy getting screwed, accept it, captain compliant.

have a nice screwing. :whip :monkey2
 
You are feeling quite political this morning tylerdiak. What do plan on doing to combat this injustice?
 
You are feeling quite political this morning tylerdiak. What do plan on doing to combat this injustice?

complain to washington, complain to your local congressman, complain, complain complain. and what's with the name poke dicksel-twink? :D
 
Dick Morris, who used to work for Bill Clinton, addresses this in a recent article.
"They argue that oil prices are, indeed, determined by supply and demand — not only the supply and demand for oil, but also the supply and demand for oil futures. (Oil futures are a commitment to buy 1,000 barrels of oil at a certain date at a certain price.)

Formerly, most of the investments in oil futures came from energy companies. The federal Commodities Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) sharply limited investments by those outside the business, to prevent precisely the kind of speculation now gripping the market.

But when the stock market slowed down in 2000–2002, outside investors decided to speculate in oil futures.

The new players were institutional investors like corporate and government pension funds, sovereign wealth funds, university endowments and other investors, guided by brokerage firms like Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs.

To avoid the CFTC caps, these investors moved their operations to London, setting up the International Commodities Exchange. Now they can buy all the oil futures they want.

Michael W. Masters, of Masters Capital Management, told Congress that the volume of investment in commodities futures soared from $13 billion at the end of 2003 to $260 billion by March of 2008.

After a while, the CFTC rescinded its limits on how much speculators could buy as long as they went through special “swap” desks at the major brokerage houses.

You can buy oil futures for only 5 percent down on margin, a bargain considering the 50 percent margin requirement for stock market equity investments. Because the margin requirement on oil futures rises as the due date approaches, few investors actually end up buying the oil; they just roll over their investments.

So the willingness of sellers to unload their oil futures, and of buyers to acquire them, sets up its own market of supply and demand that has more to do with determining the actual price of oil than even the global demand and supply for the product itself.

On May 20 of this year, Masters told Congress: “Commodities futures prices are the benchmark for the prices of actual physical commodities, so when index speculators drive futures prices higher, the effects are felt immediately in spot prices and the real economy. So there is a direct link between commodities futures prices and the prices your constituents are paying for essential goods.”
 
Gas has gone down 9 cents in the last week here. Of course now that I need to get some today it will have shot back up 25 cents.
 
one important question that i have yet to hear asked to the two presidential candidates. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT GAS PRICES!!!???

They've been asked and here are their answers:

McCain: Nothing substantial. But still a couple of things: He plans to institute a gas tax holiday to shave off a couple cents for a short time. During that time gas companies will just increase prices. It's already been tried in Illinois by Barack Obama.

He'll stop filling the strategic petroleum reserve which will somehow magically increase supply enough to reduce prices. I didn't work when it was tried in May, I'm not sure how it's supposed to work again.

End federally funded subsidies for ethanol. Again, not sure what this will do to lower gas cost. It frees up tax dollars that will quickly be spent on something else (I suspect war).

Obama: Nothing at all short term. Long term, we'd see substantial increases in the funding of research for renewable fuels.

All in all, be ready to take it in the shorts.

edit: added "of research for renewable fuels"
 
Yeah, its the oil speculators who are driving the price up so bad. Thems is who we should be a-hangin'.
 
They've been asked and here are their answers:

McCain: Nothing substantial. But still a couple of things: He plans to institute a gas tax holiday to shave off a couple cents for a short time. During that time gas companies will just increase prices. It's already been tried in Illinois by Barack Obama.

He'll stop filling the strategic petroleum reserve which will somehow magically increase supply enough to reduce prices. I didn't work when it was tried in May, I'm not sure how it's supposed to work again.

End federally funded subsidies for ethanol. Again, not sure what this will do to lower gas cost. It frees up tax dollars that will quickly be spent on something else (I suspect war).

Obama: Nothing at all short term. Long term, we'd see substantial increases in the funding of research for renewable fuels.

All in all, be ready to take it in the shorts.

edit: added "of research for renewable fuels"

ouch. so basically they're going to do nothing. :monkey4
 
Didn't the Saudis increase production?? That doesn't really mean anything because their is no shortage of fuel. If there was a true shortage we'd be waiting in long lines to get gas. I agree with tylerd, we're just getting screwed. Whatever extra money that my wife and I had left for the week is now going to gas, this was money that we would spend having lunch, shopping, going to the movies, etc. These places of business aren't getting my money anymore, and I'm sure they are starting to get hurt as well.
 
What can our government do to lessen the oil prices? Bomb someone? Stop using oil?

Plus most of the highest ranking officials right now own large shares of oil companies and oil profiteering companies.

Who do you want us to complain to?
 
As the talk of off shore drilling sprung up the Saudis increased production. More supply less beholden to the Middle East will reduce speculation costs, AND we need improved batteries for hybrid cars.
More hybrids and nuclear power will decrease oil dependency. The price won't drop but you get more mileage out of what you buy.
 
Bush could release some of the 700 million barrels of oil in our emergency reserve. Clinton did it and oil prices dropped 18%. I seriously doubt he cares though.
 
AND we need improved batteries for hybrid cars.
More hybrids and nuclear power will decrease oil dependency. The price won't drop but you get more mileage out of what you buy.

Of course making and throwing those batteries away will contaminate the earth but who cares about that. :)
 
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