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The taxes you pay don't go to SS tho do they. It's not their problem.

I live on the other side of the world and will pay $140 shipping for the upcoming Batman PF. Would I rather pay less? Of course! But it's part of collecting, as is the exchange rate, currently I'm paying 10% extra as the Oz dollar took a dip - I could complain to SS but that would be totally misplaced.
 
The taxes you pay don't go to SS tho do they. It's not their problem.

I live on the other side of the world and will pay $140 shipping for the upcoming Batman PF. Would I rather pay less? Of course! But it's part of collecting, as is the exchange rate, currently I'm paying 10% extra as the Oz dollar took a dip - I could complain to SS but that would be totally misplaced.

That's exactly why selling Exclusives in Europe at a higher price would be a good idea for them imho. Those taxes are wasted money.
 
Well whats the difference? You either have SS charge you a higher price and ship from a European warehouse or you buy from SS in California and pay more in taxes :dunno either way you're paying more.
 
Well whats the difference? You either have SS charge you a higher price and ship from a European warehouse or you buy from SS in California and pay more in taxes :dunno either way you're paying more.

Do you even read? It's the difference between paying, say, $450 directly to SS and paying $500 with the taxes. Its' still LESS, is it so hard to understand? I haven't written half a wall of text with some math just to let people skip it and give random replies.
 
The taxes you pay don't go to SS tho do they.

:lol:rotfl:lol

First of all - don't be disrepectful, no need for it. I'm talking to devilof, seriously, you don't see european people pop into threads to laugh of US customers that whine and cry 'cause their shipping cost went from $15 to $25, so don't flame over here with that attitude please.

Why are your taxes so high?
 
That's cause the customs still exist for goods that come from extra european countries, those goods need to be inspected an so on, and VAT is applied. I don't remember the exact taxes but there is like a 10% fee for something, then another 11-13% fee for something else, plus something like $15 for "the service", 'cause the couriers that import those goods anticipate that 20-23% to the customs offices and then apply this $15 additional fee when they deliver at home.
It's not a fair procedure, for example some countries only pay these fees for goods that worth over $300 or $400, here in Italy there's the customs fee even for goods that worth $25 and over. And it's very subjective, you never get to know exactly which % they apply and they can keep you packet for weeks, a friend collector of mine purchased an item with free shipping so on the packet shipping was placed as $0 - the customs office decided that it was wrong and considered as if shipping was $100, so added $100 to the packet value and places the 20-24% fee on the total price. And he never got to talk with someone of these offices, they only have help numbers that are no more active, they don't answer to e-mails and you just get lost in a sea of burocracy. They dodge any question or problem you raise.

And, as stated in the previous page by another user, there are a good amount of ways to avoid this useless taxes, for example Switzerland and Ireland give much lower taxes for import and so on.
That's why I'd prefer to give more money to Sideshow instead to random people that only watch your packet, open it, throw things away and treat your goods -for which you pay lots of money- like horse ****.
 
I don't know for sure, but how would Sideshow avoid those taxes and fees if they were shipping to a warehouse they owned within the EU? If they opened one in Ireland or Switzerland, wouldn't you still have to pay Italian taxes to get it?

I'm guessing that they closed their EU warehouse for exactly that reason. They couldn't afford the import penalties.
 
I don't know for sure, but how would Sideshow avoid those taxes and fees if they were shipping to a warehouse they owned within the EU? If they opened one in Ireland or Switzerland, wouldn't you still have to pay Italian taxes to get it?

I'm guessing that they closed their EU warehouse for exactly that reason. They couldn't afford the import penalties.

No. If a good is already in Europe (precisely, in the European Union) we don't have to pay any tax. If I (italian) buy from a german, spanish, french, danish and so on, I don't pay any additional tax. And there is a difference between selling directly from the US to an european customer, and importing in Europe an amount of goods from the US warehouse to the EU warehouse. That's why we have import groups (like Cosmic): they have agevolated taxes. Not only, there are, in fact, a few countries (like the one I mentioned) that grant even more agevolated import fees, and these countries are in the European Union - meaning that once the goods are in one of these countries, all european customers don't have to pay any additional fee to receive them.

And this is even without considering more sneaky ways (but 100% legal), for example here in Italy we have an indipendent republic named San Marino, it's a republic in our republic with his own taxes - and it's known to apply ultra low VATs on imports.
 
Had you considered the possibility that even those low penalties are more trouble than it's worth for them?

Of course I have. I don't know how SS handles its business but they, for sure, have considered something and probably came to the conclusion that it's not worth it.
But I would really love to hear someone from SS getting here and give an explanation -even a simple one, like 'lol we're note interested in EU market, k thx bye' - instead of getting just NO consideration, by any mean.

Also, there are two options: there are enough collectors in EU but somehow SS is not interested in expanding in europe, and I'd want to know why; OR there aren't enough collectors in EU and thus I'd really REALLY like to get some consideration from time to time, I mean, maybe hand us a $50 discount to buy directly from them, it would greatly help, or give free ship to europe once in a while... I mean, if we european collectors are so few, it can't really hurt them and could attract more customers.
I'm not asking SS to bend over and give us statues for free, I just want a few answers and some consideration of something that by EU collectors is felt as a growing problem.
 
I just want a few answers and some consideration of something that by EU collectors is felt as a growing problem.

There used to be a thread about this in which they answered a ****-ton of questions. I just manually searched through 35 pages of this section and couldn't find it. Not sure what else to say, other than VAT is evil, and EU fiscal reform is in your best interest.

EDIT: it's too bad the search function depends on people knowing how to spell. :duh

Here's it is...https://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67934&highlight=european

Here's another...https://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74129&highlight=european

And, one more, just because...https://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15304&highlight=european
 
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Sounds like you guys want to have your cake and eat it too. Or are you opposed to the taxes you pay? If you benefit from the expropriations you suffer, doesn't it strike you as disingenuous to ask for discounts from a company that does not benefit from your system?
 
To some extent, maybe. The fact of the matter is that SSC provided a European distributor in the past, they no longer do that. This has an impact on the European consumer's wallet, and I guess the OP is interested in learning the reason for this, and also would like to know how much thought SSC gives to European collectors now that circumstances have changed.
 
The reason is definitely money, which I am sure was already said in this thread. The market in Europe was not big enough to maintain a distribution center over there.
 
So your argument is;

SS please open an EU warehouse so I can save $50.

:rotfl

$50 per statue would be a good deal, for example. So, either you're stupid, or you're trolling, seriously, keep crying 'cause your PFs had a price bump of $10 or the shipping increased of $5 :wave
 
Please, keep it civil.

I'm trying, but after a whole page of sarcastic answers I'll just ignore him after my last post. I think I gave a good amount of reasons of why I'm posting here which isn't exactly just "omg I'm crying for VATs", I hoped in a more constructive dialogue, in particular considering how in the last year the american customers are having some trouble with price hikes - correct me if I'm wrong.
 
I am pretty sure I gave you the only answer you need. There is not a big enough market in Europe to justify the cost of distribution center.
 
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