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I watched all of the first season and last night's premiere and still the only character I know by name is "Strand." Not a good sign. Yeah, can't say I'm too big on teenage idiocy in an apocalypse either. The sister is done trying on dresses? Okay time to let her go. :lol
 
I watched all of the first season and last night's premiere and still the only character I know by name is "Strand." Not a good sign. Yeah, can't say I'm too big on teenage idiocy in an apocalypse either. The sister is done trying on dresses? Okay time to let her go. :lol

She's cute! :thwak
 
She's cute! :thwak


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Guys... guys.... guys...

It's a soap-opera with zombies. I've said it before, I'll say it again. If you come in to this franchise with expectations of Skakespearean tragedy/Breaking Bad type story telling, you are going to be disappointed.

I love this show. I think it's fun.

I like the show, I just don't find myself caring about any of them really. Maybe in time.

I do love that boat though....damn! :lol
 
Anyone watch The Talking Dead after this episode? The show runner was boring as hell! Didn't crack a smile once. And when Chris Hardwick said his fiancé came there on her birthday to support him, he didn't seem to even care. :lol
 
Erickson is super serial. :lol

Death and destruction aside, the firebombing of LA was one of the most powerful shots I've seen on TV in a while.

How much time has passed since the beginning of the apocalypse? There are already bands of pirates on the high seas? Damn. :lol
 
Anyone watch The Talking Dead after this episode? The show runner was boring as hell! Didn't crack a smile once. And when Chris Hardwick said his fiancé came there on her birthday to support him, he didn't seem to even care. :lol

Didn't mind Ericsson, but thought Hozier was a blabbering mess. What the hell was he even doing there? I DVR'ed it and FF through his parts.
 
Great? I found it fairly boring myself. It is unfortunate that it is going to take stupid things by the cast (like giving away your position to a total stranger and taking a swim in the middle of the ocean) for some action to happen.

They need to develop these characters so we care about them, but don't develop them to be stupid. Please. :lol

I don't think they made especially stupid decisions, given where they are in the mess. They haven't figured out that people are the real danger. It makes sense for them. But, it doesn't help the pacing of the show.

Honestly, I think The Walking Dead may have killed off the zombie genre. It's done it so well, so thorougly, and so far past the initial outbreak, that the audience can't feel for characters that aren't battle-hardened. So far, this show is pretty much a standard pre-TWD zombie movie ... couple of nameless nobodies get trapped and periodically attacked by a dead guy or two. But, the audience has changed. The audience is essentially part of Rick's crew. We've seen it all, we've been through the blood, the guts, the attacks, the Governor, the cannibals, etc. We're a solid 4-years farther into this than the characters on FTWD. Zombies aren't scary anymore -- man-up, knife 'em in the eyeball, and move on. But, this show is still trying to sell zombie jump-scares to people it's sister show has taken to hell and back. It doesn't work.

I don't think FTWD is bad. They've tread some new ground with the military safe zone, the yacht, water zombies, and potential pirates. But, it's still pretty standard Romero schlock -- with a few trapped know-nothings panicked at a couple of zombies -- rather than something with characters as far developed and battle-hardened as TWD. The difference between TWD and FTWD is, the audience isn't with the survivors anymore. We're past them.

Somebody said "there's no Rick, Daryl or Carol" in the FTWD crew. That's true. But, 7 episodes into TWD, there wasn't a Rick, Daryl or Carol in that one either. Daryl was a racist nobody. Carol was a weakling battered wife. And Rick ran off into the woods by himself chasing after a little girl ... for like 10-straight-episodes. They were no smarter, or grittier than these guys are. But, we weren't either, so we were with the characters. Now, we're smarter than the characters we're supposed to identify with. We're battle-hardened ... and they end up looking like idiots for decisions that might've seemed completely reasonable to us 8-years ago.

SnakeDoc
 
I think somebody said it earlier but...I've got zero interest in watching stupid teenagers do stupid teenager things, even with the backdrop of a zombie apocalypse.
 
Interest in this show, fading.

It did nothing for me.

I'll give it a couple more episodes before I pull the plug.

Have Talking Dead on the DVR, but I just feel no desire to watch it.
 
Guys... guys.... guys...

It's a soap-opera with zombies. I've said it before, I'll say it again. If you come in to this franchise with expectations of Skakespearean tragedy/Breaking Bad type story telling, you are going to be disappointed.

I love this show. I think it's fun.


I agree a bit. But a show with Zombies should at least be interesting which this show is not.


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God I hate those teenagers...

The scary thing is that they're actually well written. Or should I say realistically written? :lol

It wasn't a terrible episode, but not the best either. As far as the characters go, I really like Strand, but that's about it.
 
Great? I found it fairly boring myself. It is unfortunate that it is going to take stupid things by the cast (like giving away your position to a total stranger and taking a swim in the middle of the ocean) for some action to happen.

They need to develop these characters so we care about them, but don't develop them to be stupid. Please. :lol

I wouldn't say boring, but yes on the stupid. It's just so frustrating to watch these people do such incredibly stupid things.

I don't think they made especially stupid decisions, given where they are in the mess. They haven't figured out that people are the real danger. It makes sense for them. But, it doesn't help the pacing of the show.

Honestly, I think The Walking Dead may have killed off the zombie genre. It's done it so well, so thorougly, and so far past the initial outbreak, that the audience can't feel for characters that aren't battle-hardened. So far, this show is pretty much a standard pre-TWD zombie movie ... couple of nameless nobodies get trapped and periodically attacked by a dead guy or two. But, the audience has changed. The audience is essentially part of Rick's crew. We've seen it all, we've been through the blood, the guts, the attacks, the Governor, the cannibals, etc. We're a solid 4-years farther into this than the characters on FTWD. Zombies aren't scary anymore -- man-up, knife 'em in the eyeball, and move on. But, this show is still trying to sell zombie jump-scares to people it's sister show has taken to hell and back. It doesn't work.

I don't think FTWD is bad. They've tread some new ground with the military safe zone, the yacht, water zombies, and potential pirates. But, it's still pretty standard Romero schlock -- with a few trapped know-nothings panicked at a couple of zombies -- rather than something with characters as far developed and battle-hardened as TWD. The difference between TWD and FTWD is, the audience isn't with the survivors anymore. We're past them.

Somebody said "there's no Rick, Daryl or Carol" in the FTWD crew. That's true. But, 7 episodes into TWD, there wasn't a Rick, Daryl or Carol in that one either. Daryl was a racist nobody. Carol was a weakling battered wife. And Rick ran off into the woods by himself chasing after a little girl ... for like 10-straight-episodes. They were no smarter, or grittier than these guys are. But, we weren't either, so we were with the characters. Now, we're smarter than the characters we're supposed to identify with. We're battle-hardened ... and they end up looking like idiots for decisions that might've seemed completely reasonable to us 8-years ago.

SnakeDoc

:goodpost: Very well said. That's part of what makes this crew do stupid things all the more frustrating. The audience has already gone through all this with the previous show. Now you're asking them to do it again, to "figure out" the rules of the apocalypse again, to learn the rules of the zombies again.

I think they missed a huge opportunity by glossing over the actual breakdown of society by only focusing on the family. They could have at least shown them watching things happen on tv or listen to news reports on the radio. But instead they jumped right in to being isolated and not knowing what was happening and what the extent of the plague was.
 
I don't think they made especially stupid decisions, given where they are in the mess. They haven't figured out that people are the real danger. It makes sense for them. But, it doesn't help the pacing of the show.

Honestly, I think The Walking Dead may have killed off the zombie genre. It's done it so well, so thorougly, and so far past the initial outbreak, that the audience can't feel for characters that aren't battle-hardened. So far, this show is pretty much a standard pre-TWD zombie movie ... couple of nameless nobodies get trapped and periodically attacked by a dead guy or two. But, the audience has changed. The audience is essentially part of Rick's crew. We've seen it all, we've been through the blood, the guts, the attacks, the Governor, the cannibals, etc. We're a solid 4-years farther into this than the characters on FTWD. Zombies aren't scary anymore -- man-up, knife 'em in the eyeball, and move on. But, this show is still trying to sell zombie jump-scares to people it's sister show has taken to hell and back. It doesn't work.

I don't think FTWD is bad. They've tread some new ground with the military safe zone, the yacht, water zombies, and potential pirates. But, it's still pretty standard Romero schlock -- with a few trapped know-nothings panicked at a couple of zombies -- rather than something with characters as far developed and battle-hardened as TWD. The difference between TWD and FTWD is, the audience isn't with the survivors anymore. We're past them.

Somebody said "there's no Rick, Daryl or Carol" in the FTWD crew. That's true. But, 7 episodes into TWD, there wasn't a Rick, Daryl or Carol in that one either. Daryl was a racist nobody. Carol was a weakling battered wife. And Rick ran off into the woods by himself chasing after a little girl ... for like 10-straight-episodes. They were no smarter, or grittier than these guys are. But, we weren't either, so we were with the characters. Now, we're smarter than the characters we're supposed to identify with. We're battle-hardened ... and they end up looking like idiots for decisions that might've seemed completely reasonable to us 8-years ago.

SnakeDoc

Agreed overall, but I do think that Rick was a much more interesting character at the beginning than any of the current FTWD characters, except for Strand. Same for Daryl, the man had charisma from the beginning, even if you didn't agree with him.
 
I wouldn't say boring, but yes on the stupid. It's just so frustrating to watch these people do such incredibly stupid things.



:goodpost: Very well said. That's part of what makes this crew do stupid things all the more frustrating. The audience has already gone through all this with the previous show. Now you're asking them to do it again, to "figure out" the rules of the apocalypse again, to learn the rules of the zombies again.

I think they missed a huge opportunity by glossing over the actual breakdown of society by only focusing on the family. They could have at least shown them watching things happen on tv or listen to news reports on the radio. But instead they jumped right in to being isolated and not knowing what was happening and what the extent of the plague was.

For that reason I don't see huge longevity for this show...unless a change of setting is enough for audiences. Not sure it will be though.
 
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