Action Figure Final Fantasy VII Remake Collectibles

[Khaos]

Very well explained. There are a lot of impatient people in this hobby. It's good for them to have info like this.


On another note, man I would love to have that Body for several other figures. Namely Asmus DMC3 Dante. I wonder if GT intends to sell it separately after putting so much work into it.

I can't speak for them, but statistically, they probably will. There's a solid chance. As GT has seen 4 releases so far; namely 2 Ichigos, Cloud & Sephiroth. And 3 out of 4 of those figures had their bodies up for sale, separately.

 

[Biojex]

I can't speak for them, but statistically, they probably will. There's a solid chance. As GT has seen 4 releases so far; namely 2 Ichigos, Cloud & Sephiroth. And 3 out of 4 of those figures had their bodies up for sale, separately.

Yeah, that's why I'm hopeful. Otherwise I'll be perched like a vulture on all of the breakdown sites

 

[Khaos]

Yeah, that's why I'm hopeful. Otherwise I'll be perched like a vulture on all of the breakdown sites

I'ma need links for those breakdown sites too

 

[faker]

well，i guess some people doesn't understand the process of making figure. the preorder picture that we saw are the best version shown. what normal company do is try to make the mass production product （which is mass produced by factory- non pro figure artist）resemble the the prototype.

gametoys tend to outbest their preorder prototype figure if possible. which we can see in cloud RE. final product is better than the prototype.

below are the step of making a figure which shared by the boss
（roughly the step，sorry if some step are not correct）

outsource factory normally will said：ya，we can meet your expectation.
but in most case that we saw the final product quality is just normal.

gt built 3d file，invent new body，follow the scale proportion，build headsculpt, send to painting artist for paint，revise3-5times until the prototype is finalize.

then go discuss with factory ，whether they can mass produce it. take few sample product from factory.revise it again，until final sample are ok.

then start preorder.

during mass production，each parts require constant quality control. if some batch parts are rejected，will require revise and redo. example：cloths colour，how is the tpe body final colour when comeout from mold，headsculpt paint（which require few step of painting procedure）.
below are some screenshoot that gt boss revising the head sculpt painting with the factory，like the size of eyes retina. i believe he said that he keep revising the painting 5-6 times.

he can just approve it without caring the quality but thats just not gt style.
He just want us to get the best version figure that he could make.

This is really a simple thinking，gt could just make the final product resemble up to 80-90% compare to the prototype shown. why delay it？
To give a better QUALITY figure.

I sure every figure company dont want to delay the release date.
but as a buyer，if we can understand the flowchart of making figure，perhaps we can understand why figure release date are delayed.

if you guys are desperate enough and not willing to wait any longer，you always can sell the preorder to someone，instant sold in china. and go buy the vts zack.

oh wait ，vts zack still not released yet， and their preorder is early than gt. lol

give and take guys. quality require time.

This is why I like gametoys, the boss is more than a little crazy about quality. I don't think what you're describing is normal for any other company and it shows, remember the TIFA PAK debacle where they screwed it up so abd they had to reproduce the head and ship it out? Good times.

Still, wasn't asking to rush, just trying to figure out a date, which I figured he was pretty close to given the progress we'd seen. And I CERTAINLY wasn't looking for the VTS version lol.

 

[BladeS]

This is really a simple thinking，gt could just make the final product resemble up to 80-90% compare to the prototype shown. why delay it？
To give a better QUALITY figure.

I want to draw attention to how rare this is in the hobby and how much it's being taken for granted. This is the difference between a passion for a craft and making money.

Every company will get a look at a production line build and check it out for quality and design. For a lot of them they will see it and say, "Good enough. Run it." And you end up with figures that don't look like their prototype. And this is industry wide. How many times have you seen a prototype and then you get it in hand and it doesn't have the likeness that it should?

The decision to just push something through even if it's only "good enough" is usually because of money and lack of care. "People will buy it anyway, whatever."

That kind of mentality is rampant.

The fact that GT wants their final releases to look like or better than their prototype is unheard of and I can't respect that enough.

Thanks for the write up Walter. I don't think anyone on here was particularly upset or impatient with any kind of actual malice. I think it's just growing excitement coming across that way since we're getting close to release.

 

[shadow_wolf]

You’re making it hard to resist temptation!

Come at me brah!

Doing my best attempt as an enabler...we are one supportive group of collectors, we like to encourage one another to spend more
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So...did it work?

 

[omegaglory1]

Come at me brah!

Doing my best attempt as an enabler...we are one supportive group of collectors, we like to encourage one another to spend more
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So...did it work?

I think I’ll pass on Sephiroth but I’m staying alert for the rest of the gang when they eventually drop. I should have enough money saved up by then!

My eyes are wandering toward the Mandalorian deluxe pre order and the Mark 85 Iron Man. I could afford both but I’m making a conscious effort not to impulse buy and be as selective as I can about what collectibles I pick up. I already have the Queen Studios Joker set and Phase I Clonetrooper on pre order and I’ve been on a 6 month long project to declutter my living space. I’ve accumulated far too much over the years (collectibles, comics etc) and I’m on the path to having less stuff. Doesn’t mean I’ve given up on figures but I’m being more conscious of what I buy.

That is a very impressive figure, though

 

[chrisstbh]

I think I’ll pass on Sephiroth

You'll regret that

 

[Bleah]

You'll regret that

What's there to pass up on? It's been sold out from retail for quite some time.

 

[chrisstbh]

What's there to pass up on? It's been sold out from retail for quite some time.

Still able to purchase elsewhere at a higher price and it's not gonna get any lower.

 

[Khaos]

You'll regret that

I'd be kicking myself if I missed him too, but now there's another problem at hand. It appears like GT is going to make another Sephiroth, based solely on photos we've gotten here (or they were merely displaying their new seamless body, kinda hard to say). It would be either CC Sephiroth or Shirtless Sephiroth, most likely the latter.

Which arises another problem...
... that would mean I have to get two Sephiroths!

But good news, that means there would be an affordable Sephiroth release for the folks who weren't aware of GT at the time. I hope they do this, honestly. We have 2 Clouds already, why not 2 Sephiroth as well?

 

[walter88]

This is why I like gametoys, the boss is more than a little crazy about quality. I don't think what you're describing is normal for any other company and it shows, remember the TIFA PAK debacle where they screwed it up so abd they had to reproduce the head and ship it out? Good times.

Still, wasn't asking to rush, just trying to figure out a date, which I figured he was pretty close to given the progress we'd seen. And I CERTAINLY wasn't looking for the VTS version lol.

personally i wont compare pak product with 1/6 figure，the targeted market are completely different. but yes i do agree with you，is the way of a company handle their product.

gt boss will update the progress，but there are more unseen details/problems that we wont know about unless we work in the line.

the more figure maker company in the market，those company will do the best to improve. let me give some example.
ht 1/6 new batman，early on the preorder，the figure is just ok-ish.because they have 0 competitor. once qs announced 1/6 series new batman too，with better head sculpt ，hair design etc. ht counter it with the same things. se pak series have no competitor. thats why with the take it or leave it attitude.

do gt have competitor？yes.
do gt have weakness or quality problem？yes
in 1/6 scale figure，only one thing that will define the figure ，the headsculpt. even with the best weapon，body，cloth. slightly off from the headsculpt itself ruined the figure worth.

do we agree gt have catch the likeness of the character on their figure？
yes.
do gt received any complaint regarding the headsculpt ？
none ，at least i myself never heard about it.

different between gt and the other company are gt boss is a collector himself. he know what we wanted.，just like us. and he is super ocd regarding the figure he sell.

and if you ask me， how to define a good product？
not the bestsculpt（because there will alway someone that not satisfy）not the best weapons etc.
but the picture took by each collector for the figure.
each picture took with different angle，different camera，different smartphone.
but dam all looking so great. making you want to buy it.
now thats a good quality product.

and yes i do understand some guys might be impatient regarding release date.

think this way
1，product with ongoing process/explaination，multiply revised. then release.
2. product open for preorder, totally no news until release. delayed without reason. only redo if received mass complaint.

now choose.

 

[thatonenerdlord]

Just as an aside, the (I’m assuming) newest shots of Cloud’s semi-seamless body look really good. I wasn’t planning on keeping the one I preordered, since I didn’t like the initial look of it, but now I’m like……dangit, guess I might lol

 

[Khaos]

personally i wont compare pak product with 1/6 figure，the targeted market are completely different. but yes i do agree with you，is the way of a company handle their product.

gt boss will update the progress，but there are more unseen details/problems that we wont know about unless we work in the line.

the more figure maker company in the market，those company will do the best to improve. let me give some example.
ht 1/6 new batman，early on the preorder，the figure is just ok-ish.because they have 0 competitor. once qs announced 1/6 series new batman too，with better head sculpt ，hair design etc. ht counter it with the same things. se pak series have no competitor. thats why with the take it or leave it attitude.

do gt have competitor？yes.
do gt have weakness or quality problem？yes
in 1/6 scale figure，only one thing that will define the figure ，the headsculpt. even with the best weapon，body，cloth. slightly off from the headsculpt itself ruined the figure worth.

do we agree gt have catch the likeness of the character on their figure？
yes.
do gt received any complaint regarding the headsculpt ？
none ，at least i myself never heard about it.

different between gt and the other company are gt boss is a collector himself. he know what we wanted.，just like us. and he is super ocd regarding the figure he sell.

and if you ask me， how to define a good product？
not the bestsculpt（because there will alway someone that not satisfy）not the best weapons etc.
but the picture took by each collector for the figure.
each picture took with different angle，different camera，different smartphone.
but dam all looking so great. making you want to buy it.
now thats a good quality product.

and yes i do understand some guys might be impatient regarding release date.

think this way
1，product with ongoing process/explaination，multiply revised. then release.
2. product open for preorder, totally no news until release. delayed without reason. only redo if received mass complaint.

now choose.

I'm just happy waiting for the release, so long as I have the pre-order secured, there's no problem there- HOLD UP IS THAT A VINCENT PROTOTYPE!!?!?!??!

I'm loving these prototype sneak peak pics next to Cloud - it's soo exciting!!!!!

 

[James M]

Loving the Vincent tease.

 

[BladeS]

God I want a 1/6 Vincent so bad.

I say, as if I don't want all of the characters.

 

[Shadow Ranger]

personally i wont compare pak product with 1/6 figure，the targeted market are completely different. but yes i do agree with you，is the way of a company handle their product.

gt boss will update the progress，but there are more unseen details/problems that we wont know about unless we work in the line.

the more figure maker company in the market，those company will do the best to improve. let me give some example.
ht 1/6 new batman，early on the preorder，the figure is just ok-ish.because they have 0 competitor. once qs announced 1/6 series new batman too，with better head sculpt ，hair design etc. ht counter it with the same things. se pak series have no competitor. thats why with the take it or leave it attitude.

do gt have competitor？yes.
do gt have weakness or quality problem？yes
in 1/6 scale figure，only one thing that will define the figure ，the headsculpt. even with the best weapon，body，cloth. slightly off from the headsculpt itself ruined the figure worth.

do we agree gt have catch the likeness of the character on their figure？
yes.
do gt received any complaint regarding the headsculpt ？
none ，at least i myself never heard about it.

different between gt and the other company are gt boss is a collector himself. he know what we wanted.，just like us. and he is super ocd regarding the figure he sell.

and if you ask me， how to define a good product？
not the bestsculpt（because there will alway someone that not satisfy）not the best weapons etc.
but the picture took by each collector for the figure.
each picture took with different angle，different camera，different smartphone.
but dam all looking so great. making you want to buy it.
now thats a good quality product.

and yes i do understand some guys might be impatient regarding release date.

think this way
1，product with ongoing process/explaination，multiply revised. then release.
2. product open for preorder, totally no news until release. delayed without reason. only redo if received mass complaint.

now choose.

GT have delivered twice. 3/4 times if folks have been collecting Bleach, so I'm not worried. Would I like Zack now? Yes. Can I wait for a perfect product? Yep. Happy to wait until it's just right.

 

[faker]

personally i wont compare pak product with 1/6 figure，the targeted market are completely different. but yes i do agree with you，is the way of a company handle their product.

gt boss will update the progress，but there are more unseen details/problems that we wont know about unless we work in the line.

the more figure maker company in the market，those company will do the best to improve. let me give some example.
ht 1/6 new batman，early on the preorder，the figure is just ok-ish.because they have 0 competitor. once qs announced 1/6 series new batman too，with better head sculpt ，hair design etc. ht counter it with the same things. se pak series have no competitor. thats why with the take it or leave it attitude.

do gt have competitor？yes.
do gt have weakness or quality problem？yes
in 1/6 scale figure，only one thing that will define the figure ，the headsculpt. even with the best weapon，body，cloth. slightly off from the headsculpt itself ruined the figure worth.

do we agree gt have catch the likeness of the character on their figure？
yes.
do gt received any complaint regarding the headsculpt ？
none ，at least i myself never heard about it.

different between gt and the other company are gt boss is a collector himself. he know what we wanted.，just like us. and he is super ocd regarding the figure he sell.

and if you ask me， how to define a good product？
not the bestsculpt（because there will alway someone that not satisfy）not the best weapons etc.
but the picture took by each collector for the figure.
each picture took with different angle，different camera，different smartphone.
but dam all looking so great. making you want to buy it.
now thats a good quality product.

and yes i do understand some guys might be impatient regarding release date.

think this way
1，product with ongoing process/explaination，multiply revised. then release.
2. product open for preorder, totally no news until release. delayed without reason. only redo if received mass complaint.

now choose.

Again, I would say gametoys is a different beast, one of the reasons I waited so long to get Cloud is that the promo pics just weren't good enough, but then GT held it back and improved virtually all aspects of it. Which is why as soon as they announced a Zack and I saw their promo I didn't hesitate to pay in full. You're right when a company has no competition they don't have to try as hard, but being that the price of everything including figures is going up, I don't settle for low quality trash or stuff that is **almost** good, if I'm dropping good money I want a good product.

To me, square enix now has a competitor in gametoys wether they want it or not, and it's good because they're far too complacent with their products and it shows. Personally I'd rather give my money to GT than SE. I don't know who they could make from ff7 that I'd still want to get, but I basically recommend them to anybody asking about ff figures.

 

[AlejandroDLF]

Yeah, that's why I'm hopeful. Otherwise I'll be perched like a vulture on all of the breakdown sites

What break down sites are there ? I wanna do the same this time for Zack to get as many spare arms as possible

 

[faker]

What break down sites are there ? I wanna do the same this time for Zack to get as many spare arms as possible

I wish Gametoys would sell limited replacement arms in a pack for their figures. I had to put in a lot of legwork to get a replacement arm for my Cloud, and I'd hate to do it again for Zack. I also wish they could sell these bodies seperate because they're some of my favorite in the hobby right now and it'd be nice to have bodies like these become a bit more common.