GODZILLA: KING OF THE MONSTERS - Legendary Pictures' Godzilla 2

[MaulFan]

The way I see it, the marketing team seems to have 2 goals in mind with the structure of the adds, 1 is to show the Godzilla/kaiju fans that there will be plenty of monster action and it will look spectacular so don't fear a repeat of 2014, and number 2 is to make the movie look fun to the GA who may not give such a movie consideration unless they thought it'd feature humor and such that speaks to them. I know it's making most of us cringe to hear, but again, I really think it won't be the majority of dialogue and if anything, the GA will be let down when that's not how the film is. There have been enough hints at quality drama for me.

 

[jye4ever]

So will Stranger Things girl have a telepathic connection with Mothra?

 

[darthviper107]

No, from what I understand there's a device that can call to the monsters and that gets used a number of times to draw them to different locations.

 

[Biojex]

Dont make me post the “My corns” video again!

 

[MaulFan]

So will Stranger Things girl have a telepathic connection with Mothra?

I've read rumor that she somehow has connection with Godzilla, be curious to see if they really introduced something like that in this Universe, but such a thing dominated the Heisei era so it's not un-Godzilla to do, and I actually like Miki's character a lot.

Dont make me post the “My corns” video again!

I feel like it's a mental conflict, if you were a child being first exposed to such lines like that, as you grow up you've just embraced them, but if you're an adult hearing it for the first time you're like, wtf this is garbage. Even though 5 year old me wouldn't know what gonnorea is, I'd probably have laughed at it just like the corns gag.

 

[jnmx2000]

Christ, this dialogue.

"Ghi-what?"

"Gonorrhea?"

"Is it just me or has he been working out?"

I get that these are big, dumb monster movies but the writers don't have to treat them as such to get ***** in seats. Even the first Pacific Rim had some class to it. This feels like it was written by a frat bro in a drunken, ironic stupor. I hope this is just a case of poor trailer editing, but I can't shake the feeling that this will be a trash film apart from the effects.

Yea it feels like they are going for the marvel/avengers crowd that likes quippy lines from it's characters, it's just so much different in marvel when the characters have been established for multiple films to be like this and then, Marvel has gotten better with dialing it back a little. These lines feel out of place in a film that looks like it's going to be as grim as it's going to be. Monsters are bringing about the end of the world, these people aren't powered up gods trying to get the better of the enemy, it just comes off as weird.

 

[MaulFan]

I forget for a minute that there are even humans in this movie.

 

[Wor-Gar]

These shots start to look like amazing paintings.

I wonder if the movie will look like a cartoon? Except when the humans are on... where it will sound like a cartoon.

 

[Biojex]

I've read rumor that she somehow has connection with Godzilla, be curious to see if they really introduced something like that in this Universe, but such a thing dominated the Heisei era so it's not un-Godzilla to do, and I actually like Miki's character a lot.



I feel like it's a mental conflict, if you were a child being first exposed to such lines like that, as you grow up you've just embraced them, but if you're an adult hearing it for the first time you're like, wtf this is garbage. Even though 5 year old me wouldn't know what gonnorea is, I'd probably have laughed at it just like the corns gag.

There’s also a fine line between the writer putting that line in thinking its clever and funny, or purposfully making it a dumb line that the character would say because thats what the character calls for. This guy could be Michael Scott from The Office

The trick is getting the audience to understand which one you are trying to acheive.

Or they spent all the budget on the monsters instead of a good writing team. Who knows...from what I’ve seen I think I’ll be fine with that

 

[rivera2171]

Ive never watched a Godzilla movie for the writing...

 

[MaulFan]

These shots start to look like amazing paintings.

I wonder if the movie will look like a cartoon? Except when the humans are on... where it will sound like a cartoon.

I can’t wait to get the Art book, I can only imagine what’s in there if the film imagery is on this level.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I think the stills alone ARE the Art Book.

What they need is simple a Picture Book of the movie. Remember when they used to do that long, long ago -- have those books that were basically just stills like a comic book. I have one from Alien.

 

[rjszar]

Ive never watched a Godzilla movie for the writing...

What? It's all about the story man. Pure gold, every one of them. Of course, it's easy to think that when you're in grade school.

 

[Rotfish]

Ive never watched a Godzilla movie for the writing...

Thing is, the most poorly-written Godzilla film could very well have loads of monsters or action. Doesn't change how difficult it is to get through. Final Wars, Spacegodzilla, Ghidorah '91, Terror of Mechagodzilla, Gigan, and Destroy All Monsters (yes, you read that last one correctly) are all painful to watch.

There's a reason the original is so good. There's a reason there are gems like Mechagodzilla '74, GMK, SOS, and Shin even decades into the catalog. It's because effects, rosters, and visuals don't matter as much as a decent story. None of these are Academy caliber, but there's at least something there.

 

[Biojex]

But this is a visual medium. Sometimes people focus too much on the words and miss the story that the visuals are telling. An expression. A gesture. It’s all story. Writing is a fraction of that story and maybe for movies like this, it’s not the most important component. Just because someone says “I don’t care about the writing in a movie like this” doesn’t make them a lesser being. It just means they know where to put their focus.

 

[MaulFan]

I think the stills alone ARE the Art Book.

What they need is simple a Picture Book of the movie. Remember when they used to do that long, long ago -- have those books that were basically just stills like a comic book. I have one from Alien.

I love books like that, these days the Art books and maybe special magazines are as close as we come.

 

[Biojex]

I love books like that, these days the Art books and maybe special magazines are as close as we come.

I miss those visual guides movies used to get. I always got so hyped when I got one fir a movie i was looking forward too

The artbook for the first film is still one of my favorite art books that I revisit regularly. All the various interations of the Mutos and Godzilla are a treasure. I can’t wait to see that for this movie.

 

[xipotec]

I think the stills alone ARE the Art Book.

What they need is simple a Picture Book of the movie. Remember when they used to do that long, long ago -- have those books that were basically just stills like a comic book. I have one from Alien.

My beat up ANH and ESB picture story books were a solace in the days before VHS.


Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....

 

[MaulFan]

I miss those visual guides movies used to get. I always got so hyped when I got one fir a movie i was looking forward too

The artbook for the first film is still one of my favorite art books that I revisit regularly. All the various interations of the Mutos and Godzilla are a treasure. I can’t wait to see that for this movie.

If you don’t have it yet, highly recommend the Kong Art book.

 

[Rotfish]

But this is a visual medium. Sometimes people focus too much on the words and miss the story that the visuals are telling. An expression. A gesture. It’s all story. Writing is a fraction of that story and maybe for movies like this, it’s not the most important component. Just because someone says “I don’t care about the writing in a movie like this” doesn’t make them a lesser being. It just means they know where to put their focus.

I agree that it's a visual medium. And writing doesn't just mean dialogue and narration. It's behavior, it's action, it's expression. All of those things you mentioned are and should be present in the script. It's the entire blueprint for the film. It is the story.

Let's put it this way: the films between the original Transformers and Bumblebee are all pretty lousy. They get worse as they go. They're also incredibly visual, but the visuals aren't used to do anything compelling. There's no message, there's no emotional resonance. That's because the quality of the script wasn't prioritized. You can be the biggest action junkie in the world, but you've got to admit some of the Transformers movies are better than others and not because they had more action or robots onscreen at once. And that's not to say that the writers of Bumblebee reached for the stars. They simply had standards beyond "who cares, let's just smash robots into each other and get the check."