GOT MY GENERAL KENOBI!

[FQRizzo]

An exclusive interrogation droid would be cool with Vader

 

[LordAzrael]

Personally I'd like to see inclusives on troop builder type characters but after the Maul debarcle I think it shouldn't be used where a collector would only want 1 exclusive style figure.

I can definitely see myself buying multiple troops for flanking

2 x 501st for Darth Anakin,
2 x Stormtroopers for Armoured Vader,
2 x blue arc troopers for the red arc trooper captain
2 x royal guards for the emperor
2 x blue senate guards for chancellor
2 x regular clones for each for commander.
2 x Rebel Fleet troopers for Captain Antilles
2 x Hoth Troopers for Hoth Luke, Leia and Han (+ General Reiken ?)

and the list goes on

 

[Memnoch]

Personally I'd like to see inclusives on troop builder type characters but after the Maul debarcle I think it shouldn't be used where a collector would only want 1 exclusive style figure.

I can definitely see myself buying multiple troops for flanking

2 x 501st for Darth Anakin,
2 x Stormtroopers for Armoured Vader,
2 x blue arc troopers for the red arc trooper captain
2 x royal guards for the emperor
2 x blue senate guards for chancellor
2 x regular clones for each for commander.
2 x Rebel Fleet troopers for Captain Antilles
2 x Hoth Troopers for Hoth Luke, Leia and Han (+ General Reiken ?)

and the list goes on

For me, make an exclusive, then do open ended regulars with shipping and production every quarter. Take an amount from the first day of PPO (post exclusive) and run it for a week, newsletter to newsletter. That would be it for that quater. Then next quarter, 3 months later, do it again.

 

[Darth Cruel]

Nope, everyone shouldnt. The PPO/Exclusive system is in place so SS is sure they have a certain amount of orders through their site and probably to help clear production costs. I haven't missed a gold sticker yet and don't plan to. I also think the Inclusive system is a way to stick it to SS by saying "oh yea I'll get 3" and then say "no Ill only get one" and now they are left with two extra figures. I saw it happen with Maul and Jabba. Not only were SS left with extra stock but the secondary market is almost nil for some of these. Product saturation is always a bad idea and that's what Inclusive usually means.

This doesn't even make sense. If Sideshow wanted to make sure a certain number were sold through their site, they would (and I suspect, do) hold that many back from retailers to sell them via the site. Also, even in the inclusive editions, there was only one allowed per person. So screwing Sideshow by ordering three and reneging on 2 is not possible. And I HIGHLY doubt that there are enough people that want to screw Sideshow over by ordering one and then reneging on it to make any difference to Sideshow. I can easily imagine that there are plenty of people who miss out, but want one of the missed figures, to easily offset the number who cancel. Maul sold out even if it was later, and I am GUESSING that the reason Sideshow had Jabba for so long was that they made extras to cover returns...but I don't really remember anyone complaining about having to return them. It was a great piece.

And I, for one, WANT the secondary market to collapse.

Once again, I reiterate that exclusives serve no purpose that benefits collecting in general.

 

[Agent0028]

I think one of the problems with the inclusive is that the ordering window was too big. Twenty-four hours would be more than enough time I think. However I can understand the problems with it, especially that no edition size is ever announced.

 

[Darth Cruel]

I think one of the problems with the inclusive is that the ordering window was too big. Twenty-four hours would be more than enough time I think. However I can understand the problems with it, especially that no edition size is ever announced.

But, to me, it is good that no edition size is announced. It hurts the secondary market.

 

[Memnoch]

Except I remember there being no set limit on at least the Darth Maul.. unless I'm just thinking of something else . I just really dislike the idea of the Inclusive, it's redundant. Whats the point of a regular if they did an Inclusive, none. Everyone that wants one, gets one.

 

[Darth Cruel]

I am OK with that. One version and everyne gets one.

I realize that is a dream, but that would be my preferred situation.

 

[Agent0028]

If that were the case it would seriously mess with the balance between Sideshow and their dealers. Would everyone order from Sideshow, or would they order from dealers for less? What role would the rewards points play? if people ordered only from sideshow how much would it hurt our dealers? If people only ordered from dealers would sideshow have to raise prices to stay afloat?

The status quo must be maintained!

 

[Darth Cruel]

If that were the case it would seriously mess with the balance between Sideshow and their dealers. Would everyone order from Sideshow, or would they order from dealers for less? What role would the rewards points play? if people ordered only from sideshow how much would it hurt our dealers? If people only ordered from dealers would sideshow have to raise prices to stay afloat?

The status quo must be maintained!

I disagree. Sideshow will make their money even if it is by selling ALL of the figures to retailers. They make money from that too. And if they want more money, they can just sell to retailers at a higher mark-up.

Edit - Hell, that would benefit us. We would get the figures 5-10 dollars cheaper.

 

[DCFett]

Yeah, I order from SS for the customer service should there be any "mishaps". I would hope that SS wouldnt care about the secondary market and that the exclusives arent meant to hold it up in any way. I dont think Maul or Jabba was an opern free for all. It was only one per household just like the exclusive and the regular edition. So that argument doesnt hold water. Perhaps a smaller window would work as well. Besides, SS cant stop any one from ordering and cancelling. Matter of fact, they dont discourage it b/c they offer the wait list option, so arguing that the inclusive leave SS with overstock doesnt hold water either. The only reason I can think folks WANT ES and exclusives is to sell on the secondary market. And we KNOW there are folks here who order more than one of whatever to sell, regardless of the ES and the exclusive natrue. Soem speculators even do so and cancel one or both if their CCs get over taxed by the time they can get the product and resell it. Again, dont mean to keep debating, just discussing, but I did/do think that Obi would have made a great INCLUSIVE. Considering.

 

[Memnoch]

Only reason I get the exclusive is because I am OCD about not having all the bits. If I know there is a figure out there with an extra gun or something I want that figure. I only sell when its unavoidable sooo I don't care about secondary market. I just think the PPO is the best way to go and that Inclusive serve no point. If you are there at 10 and have a good connection you get it.

 

[DCFett]

I dont sell, but that's not saying I havent ever sold anything. But I am with you, I am OCD about that as well. But, I wouldnt care if everyone got all the little bits if they wanted them.

 

[Agent0028]

I like having the exclusives because I never know when that exclusive item might come in handy.

 

[DarthNeil]

I was OCD until my CC went DOA but seriously it costs an arm and a leg to send it direct from SS to me up here in the Great White North, add custom fees to it and collecting the way I was going was not making sense. I cancelled almost ALL of the 1/6 Exc. SW, LOTR, and others that I had on pre-order and instead got the regular ones ordered from a friendly Canadian supplier that'll save me a ton on shipping (almost an entire figure per order) and that makes sense. Of course I'll occasionally pre-order a certain fig exc...cough cough...General Obi... but the days of me being an Exc. completist are gone...

Just like Luke's protective eye pieces and Han's Greedo blaster.

 

[Memnoch]

I dont sell, but that's not saying I havent ever sold anything. But I am with you, I am OCD about that as well. But, I wouldnt care if everyone got all the little bits if they wanted them.

But then where's the fun? Where's the wow factor? To look at Kenobi and say "only 1499" other people have this is pretty cool. Plus the rush for PPO is always fun. It's part of the hunt. I think in collectibles someone will always be left out, I'm sure someday it will be me, and when that happens I'll suck it up and find it some other way. Sure it sucks but that's what goes on with collectibles.

 

[The Craw]

i used to really care about getting exclusives until i noticed that i hardly ever use the exclusive accessory for my poses. so if i cant get an exc. now and the accessory is boring then im perfectly happy with the regular. but it is nice to know that only a small number of collectors in the world can ever have a true complete set of these. so i think they should stick with the exclusives but can make the edition sizes vary a little. they'd better have a few more vaders just because of how popular he is.

 

[Agent0028]

I do love the excitement of a PPO. This is the first one I've gotten to participate in since Plo Koon I think.

 

[Memnoch]

For Vader I hope they make about 2,500 if he is ROTS, ESB or ROTJ but if he is from ANH he better be 1977

 

[DCFett]

I love the "hunt" of the PPO, but when Im done, I sit back and think "with all the stress in my life, I hope one day this wont be a part of it" It's just toys and everyone should have all the toys they ever want. I collect to connect with something I love from my childhood, therefore, I do hope that everyone can get what they want. I guess it just doesnt matter to me if Im one of 1500, but I do care if I dont have all the exclusive parts. It is a bit of a conundrum (sp?), but that's just how I feel about it.