Gravity

[hoodonit00]

So Battlestar Galactica isn't science fiction because it takes place in the past?

Ugh, you guys make this **** too difficult. Forget it.

 

[darthviper107]

I'm just messing with you, 'cause it's hilarious

 

[krec9]

Why so concerned about how a movie is classified? Why does it have to be classified at all? It's just a great film.

 

[JonWes]

Only click if you've seen the movie:
https://movies.yahoo.com/news/did-gravity-really-end-seemed-alternate-theory-spoilers-195959701.html

What do you guys think of this theory? I think it is reaching myself, and sort of goes against what the director was leading up to, but it's still interesting to ponder.

 

[Adolfo]

I was hoping GL or SM would show up at the end to save the day but nooooooooo...................lol

 

[marker2037]

That theory is a reach but I can see someone wanting to discuss it. Personally I think it works better that her journey and triumph of coming back from the brink was real not spiritual.

 

[clockwork463]

I'm certain this wasn't one of those "was it a dream endings" movies.

 

[JonWes]

That theory is a reach but I can see someone wanting to discuss it. Personally I think it works better that her journey and triumph of coming back from the brink was real not spiritual.

Agreed. I think it's a better movie for NOT doing that, too.

 

[CelticPredator]

It was real. But it was a metaphor for rebirth, or just birth.

 

[darthviper107]

https://www.fxguide.com/featured/gravity/#!

It's crazy that the interior of the ISS was entirely CG, and then they filmed Sandra on a wire rig and put her in there.

 

[Maglor]

If Armageddon or Space Camp are Science Fiction, this would probably make the cut too. MGM seems to think Space Camp is Sci Fi ...

The Space Camp Solution. Sounds like a Big Bang Theory Episode.

SnakeDoc

Wikipedia calls Space Camp a "space adventure film", which sounds about right to me, and would be a good way to describe Gravity as well. However, it has a sentient robot so it definitely fits into the Fictional Science - thus Science Fiction category.

Armageddon is clearly Science Fiction. The solution for getting rid of the astroid is definitely speculative science at this point.

Why would 127 Hours, and The Grey be science fiction? Please show me the point where those movies had space in them.

Dafuq?!

That’s more out of left field than fosing thinking I would believe Ironman is NOT Science Fiction.

I’m going to loose interest in this soon as it seems that the actual content of my posts is not being addressed, let alone read correctly.

But let me repeat:

It seems that some are claiming that anything that happens to be a fictional story while also having some scientific aspect to it fits into the genre of science fiction. I disagree with that definition as it's so broad that it looses all meaning.

Personally I think this should be considered part of the Survival Film genre, just like Apollo 13, The Grey, 127 Hours, and Cast Away. Is The Grey Science Fiction? Surely it has science in it. Are not climate, meteorology, and zoology all the study of many scientists? I would argue that The Grey strains credulity every bit as much as Gravity, if not more, but no one is calling The Grey "Science Fiction", and it clearly is not (neither are the others I just mentioned). I honestly think people see space and they think Sci-Fi, without actually thinking it through. I just see it as another setting. The Grey took place in Alaska. Cast Away took place on an island. Gravity takes place in space.

Because it's set in space, and deals with science. It's as simple as that. It couldn't get any more simpler if you wanted it too.

Any movie set in space that isn't a documentary or based off a true story, Science Fiction.

Bull****.

Setting is NOT a factor for determining that a movie is Science Fiction unless it's a setting that humans cannot actually go at the time the fiction is made, or science knows that the setting is unlike what the fiction portrays.

Journey to the center of the earth is Science Fiction because it presents fictional science regarding the nature of the center and the means of getting there.

Sunshine is Science Fiction, not because it takes place in space, but because it takes place in a part of space that humans cannot go, and portrays non-existent technology as a means to get there.

Gravity? It takes place in a part of space that humans have gone countless times. Servicing the Hubble telescope is a perfectly mundane mission, and not Science Fiction-y in the slightest. The ISS, the Chinese station? All real locations and there is nothing unusual about going to them if you are an astronaut. The inclusion of the Space Shuttle actually puts this in the past, and makes the technology outdated in a way as the Shuttle program is no more.

This is a movie about extraordinary circumstances in a relatively ordinary setting. I say "relatively" because admittedly not everyone goes into near orbit. But not many go into the uninhabited part of Alaska (The Grey), or a deserted island (Cast Away). All these areas are interesting settings for a Survival Film, but all of them are relatively mundane. Near orbit is interesting, but definitely ordinary.

I think I have figured out why I feel so strongly about this: I cant think of another fictional movie that takes place in space while not being Science Fiction. That's one of the main things that makes this movie special. It's something we have never seen before. A realistic portrayal of what it would be like in space during a major disaster. To lump this movie in with Science Fiction (or worse, "Sci-Fi") is both misleading and marginalizing. Science Fiction can be great, but this movie is a different kind of special.

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Dang it, what did I miss?

 

[CelticPredator]

We already solved this on the last page. Your time was wasted

 

[Batty]

This? Still?

 

[CelticPredator]

I know. ...

 

[Gruson]

It was ok but I liked Armageddon much more than it...

 

[CelticPredator]

It was ok but I liked Armageddon much more than it...

 

[Maglor]

We already solved this on the last page. Your time was wasted

Was it deleted?

 

[slipknotpredator]

From space.com

Astronaut Leroy Chiao: 'Gravity' Works, If You Don't Focus on the Physics (Op-Ed)

Spoiler

First, the orbital debris "chain reaction" that causes all of the problems is not credible. China shot down a satellite in 2007, causing a debris cloud. There was no chain reaction. In 2009, a defunct Russian satellite struck an active Iridium satellite in the first confirmed orbital debris destruction of a spacecraft. No chain reaction occurred then, either.

Second, the orbits and orbital mechanics are totally wrong in most of the scenarios that the movie depicts. The Hubble Space Telescope (HST) and the International Space Station (ISS) are in totally different orbital inclinations. China's anticipated Tiangong station is planned to be in yet a third orbital inclination. No existing or anticipated spacecraft would have nearly enough fuel to fly between those three vehicles.

Third, the MMU does not carry anywhere near the fuel, or have anywhere near the thrust, required to do the things that the movie depicts. The unit, never recertified after the Challenger accident, was mostly an experiment. It had only a limited operational capability.

Fourth, the astronauts would not be able to see the other spacecraft, the orbital debris or each other after such an accident — especially if they were tumbling out of control.

Fifth, existing spacecraft are depicted with hatches and other controls that are in the wrong places.

And finally, there is no way to enter an airlock from the outside, unless it had already been prepared for such an entry. The inner hatch would have to already be sealed.

So that`s it? That`s all a real astronaut will complain about?

I`m totally cool with that. It´s a movie. They need to change some stuff to make it work.

Full article:

https://www.space.com/23105-gravity-film-review-astronaut-leroy-chiao.html?cmpid=51463012868454

 

[CelticPredator]

Was it deleted?

****ing deleted.( But it really said what the definition of Sci-Fi was)

Alright, so call it Space-Fi. . Sp-Fi

The end.....

 

[Maglor]

The end.....

So what was the magical thing that he said that convinced you when all my ranting did nothing?