Gun collecting

[nash]

I also picked up two new toys: another VP9 in Gray, and a Benelli M4. I've been wanting an M4 for a long time, and now that I have one I don't know why I put it off for so long. The gun is nothing short of awesome.

awesome guns! where do you get the front-end counterbalance weight for the VP9?

 

[SnakeDoctor]

Damn ... this thread went dark.

CHL should be here in a few weeks. All of my sidearms are too big to conceal, particularly during the summer in Southeast Texas. So, I'm in the market for a concealable carry weapon. Went to my LGS to handle a few single-stack 9mms. I'm leaning toward Springfield XDS, Sig Sauer P938, or M&P Shield.

Any opinions? Never owned a striker-fired pistol. All of mine are hammer-fired. The Sig is hammer-fired. So is the Springfield XDE, which is similar to the XDS. I think I'd probably pick the Sig if it weren't $300 more expensive. Also looking at Walther PPS, Springfield XDE, and Glock 42. Never been big on Glocks ... but, I'm adaptable.

I'll be heading to the range to rent a few in the next couple of weeks.

Any recommendations?

SnakeDoc

 

[KoBE]

Try a VP9SK

 

[darkknight]

Some results of my Glock breeding program. The trick is to keep them out of your wife's sight.

Starting from top to bottom:

Glock 19 Gen 2
Glock 19C Gen 2
Glock 19 Gen 3
Glock 19 Gen 3 OD
Glock 19 Gen 3 FDE
Glock 19 Gen 3 RTF2 Grey Vickers
Glock 19 Gen 3 RTF2 FDE Vickers
Glock 19 Gen 3 Cutaway
Glock 19 Gen 4
Glock 19 Gen 4 Burnt Bronze
Glock 19 Gen 4 FDE
Glock 19 Gen 4 OD

Wow nice g19 collection. As for glocks, I only have a 17 and 19 in gen4. Looking on purchasing a glock 17 gen3 rtf2 with the curved seration.

 

[Sinanju]

Guess I can join the Glock 19 club too, but definitely on the lower end quantity wise

S&W M&P15
WaffenWerks AK-74
Gen 4 19.

I bought this Tavor X95 as a present for passing SERE. Did the EOTech buyback program and took the money from that & used it on the SPARC AR red dot instead.

 

[Centurion]

Love the Tavor. Very nice acquisition and congrats on becoming a SERE specialist.

 

[Luminous]

Was kind of surprised to see this thread on this forum. Might work out as I've been meaning to get other's perspective on something I've been struggling with. Looking through some of the most recent pages on here it seems there are a lot of responsible gun owners here. Maybe you guys can help me out.

I have kids. All very young and all boys. These guys have unimaginable energy and are always getting into everything. It wasn't a big concern when they were babies and toddlers, but now that they're getting older I find myself asking what the best way is to keep them away from firearms in the house. Do any of you have kids? If so what sort of safety precautions do you take to keep the curious mind of a child from hurting themselves? Is it as simple for some of you as a safe? If all I need is a safe are there certain kinds I should be looking at? Any insight would be extremely appreciated.

 

[KoBE]

Was kind of surprised to see this thread on this forum. Might work out as I've been meaning to get other's perspective on something I've been struggling with. Looking through some of the most recent pages on here it seems there are a lot of responsible gun owners here. Maybe you guys can help me out.

I have kids. All very young and all boys. These guys have unimaginable energy and are always getting into everything. It wasn't a big concern when they were babies and toddlers, but now that they're getting older I find myself asking what the best way is to keep them away from firearms in the house. Do any of you have kids? If so what sort of safety precautions do you take to keep the curious mind of a child from hurting themselves? Is it as simple for some of you as a safe? If all I need is a safe are there certain kinds I should be looking at? Any insight would be extremely appreciated.

Take the mystery out of guns as much as you can, show them all that you can, and just tell them at the end that they can always see them but that you HAVE to be around to enjoy it too. That’s what my dad did.

 

[BuddyGus]

Personally, I keep all of my guns locked up. I have a cabinet in my man cave and boxes throughout the house with code pads. Only my wife and I have access. I have a 9 year old girl who is interested in everything. I take her shooting as often as possible and teach her weapons handling and safety. Kids should be taught at a young age to respect firearms, and mine seems to be learning the lesson. That doesn't make me feel comfortable leaving open access to anything.

However, I grew up in a house were guns were just left under my dads bed. I was taught the same lessons and never went near them without my dad around.

At the end of the day, their safety is our responsibility, and I don't take any chances with my child's wellbeing.

 

[Sinanju]

Love the Tavor. Very nice acquisition and congrats on becoming a SERE specialist.

Thanks. I'm just glad I don't have to redo it every 4 years or so like DUNKER / HOST.

Was kind of surprised to see this thread on this forum. Might work out as I've been meaning to get other's perspective on something I've been struggling with. Looking through some of the most recent pages on here it seems there are a lot of responsible gun owners here. Maybe you guys can help me out.

I have kids. All very young and all boys. These guys have unimaginable energy and are always getting into everything. It wasn't a big concern when they were babies and toddlers, but now that they're getting older I find myself asking what the best way is to keep them away from firearms in the house. Do any of you have kids? If so what sort of safety precautions do you take to keep the curious mind of a child from hurting themselves? Is it as simple for some of you as a safe? If all I need is a safe are there certain kinds I should be looking at? Any insight would be extremely appreciated.

I don't have kids, but right now I keep them in hard cases with locks on them. Magazines and ammo locked up in a different area as well. Roommate somewhat similar. I would like to get a safe at some point, but not in the cards right now.

Growing up guns were always in a safe. Safe was bolted to the ground and parents were the only ones with the combination. Ammo stored elsewhere out of reach. I don't think you can get much safer than that in regards to actual storage.

I do think the best course of action is getting a safe mentality in their minds at an early age. Ideally, they know the 4 rules of gun safety so well that you clear a weapon, hand it to them and they re-clear it without even thinking about it. That would be my ideal safety precaution. I also get really strict about trigger discipline, which my dad ironically doesn't. He couldn't figure out why I was getting pissed off at him barrel sweeping me even after "he cleared it". I don't care that you just showed me the safey is on, magazine out, chamber empty I will get pissed if you aim it at me; treat it as if it is always loaded.

Lastly, just remember proper hearing and eye protection especially for them. I usually just use standard issue eye protection I was given, but I have a pair of Peltor Tactical 100. I prefer the electric ones as it makes conversations on the range easier, and may help younger kids pay better attention on the range due to being able to hear you better.

My childless $0.02

 

[Patriot666]

I told my daughter never to touch my guns, just like my collectibles. She listens because she's been raised with discipline. This is a perfect example of how disciplining kids is for their safety. My Dad did it the same way and we NEVER got his gun out of his bedroom closet (where we all knew it was). We don't lock up our kitchen knives either.

 

[Luminous]

I told my daughter never to touch my guns, just like my collectibles. She listens because she's been raised with discipline. This is a perfect example of how disciplining kids is for their safety. My Dad did it the same way and we NEVER got his gun out of his bedroom closet (where we all knew it was). We don't lock up our kitchen knives either.

I don't recall kitchen knives being glorified in the movies, video games and books I consumed growing up as a kid. Guns are presented as tools of badassery and death in entertainment. So they naturally create a certain mysterious allure. I realize a knife can be dangerous, but I was never curious about them as a kid because I saw them every day and what they were used for.... chopping up fruits, vegetables and meats. Can't say the same thing about guns.

Anyway, I appreciate the responses thus far. I probably should have clarified that I am not a gun hobbyist. So some of the suggestions made won't apply in my situation. While I am still considering how to explain what a gun actually is to my kids, I currently have no plans of introducing them to my kids as a hobby. Just looking to be as safe as possible while also protecting my family.

 

[steve74]

I keep my guns in a case under my bed or in a dresser out of sight in my room. My kids are not allowed in my room unless they ask or one of the parents of the house are in there. I'm not worried about my kids going in there and getting into my stuff because I taught them what the "fear of god" is and my wife has raised some pretty good kids.

 

[Centurion]

Luminous, with children in the house I absolutely recommend getting the firearms locked away. A safe with a digital code would be optimal, but not necessarily the best.
The safe can also double up as your safety deposit box. I use mine for everything that is important (i.e. cash, documents, harddrives, jewelry, etc). Once you have a safe you'll find yourself using it for more than just firearms and ammo, especially with the better safes which provide a certain amount of fire protection too.

Kids are curious. We can't fault them for that. Educate them about firearms safety and answer their questions truthfully. You want your children to come to YOU for answers when they have questions about guns. You do NOT want them getting those answers from their friends, cousins, uncles, etc.
Basically, once you've tamed their curiosity about guns and once you've taken away the mystery surrounding them they will be less likely to "experiment" with them, thereby reducing any risk for accidents.

 

[Patriot666]

Taking your kids to the range with you is also a good idea. They'll find out how extremely loud gunshots are as opposed to Hollywood's depiction. It'll deter them from doing it at home and gives them more respect for guns...again just my opinion.

 

[Luminous]

Luminous, with children in the house I absolutely recommend getting the firearms locked away. A safe with a digital code would be optimal, but not necessarily the best.
The safe can also double up as your safety deposit box. I use mine for everything that is important (i.e. cash, documents, harddrives, jewelry, etc). Once you have a safe you'll find yourself using it for more than just firearms and ammo, especially with the better safes which provide a certain amount of fire protection too.

Kids are curious. We can't fault them for that. Educate them about firearms safety and answer their questions truthfully. You want your children to come to YOU for answers when they have questions about guns. You do NOT want them getting those answers from their friends, cousins, uncles, etc.
Basically, once you've tamed their curiosity about guns and once you've taken away the mystery surrounding them they will be less likely to "experiment" with them, thereby reducing any risk for accidents.

This was the sort of safe I was leaning towards but wanted to see if there were other suggestions before purchasing. I agree that we as the parents should make sure they are as educated as possible on this sort of thing instead of anyone else. Thanks for your feedback.

Taking your kids to the range with you is also a good idea. They'll find out how extremely loud gunshots are as opposed to Hollywood's depiction. It'll deter them from doing it at home and gives them more respect for guns...again just my opinion.

This is something I've been considering as well. Hearing a gun in person is a lot different what they've been hearing and seeing in the movies. Again, thanks for the input.

 

[xipotec]

Was kind of surprised to see this thread on this forum. Might work out as I've been meaning to get other's perspective on something I've been struggling with. Looking through some of the most recent pages on here it seems there are a lot of responsible gun owners here. Maybe you guys can help me out.

I have kids. All very young and all boys. These guys have unimaginable energy and are always getting into everything. It wasn't a big concern when they were babies and toddlers, but now that they're getting older I find myself asking what the best way is to keep them away from firearms in the house. Do any of you have kids? If so what sort of safety precautions do you take to keep the curious mind of a child from hurting themselves? Is it as simple for some of you as a safe? If all I need is a safe are there certain kinds I should be looking at? Any insight would be extremely appreciated.

Well agree to expose kids to weapons is a parents choice. Here in the south I think many parent do it way to young, the result is a bunch of guys who feel guns are a toy and not the weapon they are. Watch YouTube and all the dopes playing with them.....with little respect.

Guns deserve respect before understanding.....the other way around is disaster.

We have had 2 safes. One cabinet , bolted to the beams, the other it's a coded lock box , that can only be opened with a Code entered in a splayed hand , which must be adult size to work. The code must be entered correctly in 3 tries or the box locks it self out and emits an alarm to tell you someone has tried to access it. They you must use a key to open it and reset the code. The key is stored without any labels in a locked key box in a secure location not accessible to children.

Best we could come up with. My son just turned 15 and will likely start his firearm training this year with a BB gun then moved up to .22....depending on how he handles the guns at each stage.


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[Luminous]

Well agree to expose kids to weapons is a parents choice. Here in the south I think many parent do it way to young, the result is a bunch of guys who feel guns are a toy and not the weapon they are. Watch YouTube and all the dopes playing with them.....with little respect.

Guns deserve respect before understanding.....the other way around is disaster.

We have had 2 safes. One cabinet , bolted to the beams, the other it's a coded lock box , that can only be opened with a Code entered in a splayed hand , which must be adult size to work. The code must be entered correctly in 3 tries or the box locks it self out and emits an alarm to tell you someone has tried to access it. They you must use a key to open it and reset the code. The key is stored without any labels in a locked key box in a secure location not accessible to children.

Best we could come up with. My son just turned 15 and will likely start his firearm training this year with a BB gun then moved up to .22....depending on how he handles the guns at each stage.


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Whoa, that sounds hard core. But damn if that doesn't sound child proof. Thanks, man. Something I will definitely look into.

 

[xipotec]

Whoa, that sounds hard core. But damn if that doesn't sound child proof. Thanks, man. Something I will definitely look into.

Yup...called Gun Vault.

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[Luminous]

Sweet. Thanks!