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The Eye motif is recurring throughout the film, not exclusive to Holden. The owl, Rachel, Chu, Priss, Batty, Gaff, Tyrell... almost every character is connected to the eye motif in some way. I've never interpreted that the whole thing was Holden's dream but if that is how you choose to see it, fine. There are many different interpretations of the film open to conjecture and debate and one of the reasons why the film resonates as one of the most influential films ever.
 
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metaphorge said:
If someone who makes fabulous figures (*ahem* hot toys *ahem*) were to do a full set of the main characters of this film my collecting life would be close to being complete.

(I'm aware of the 1:6 "Android Hunter" figures. Not quite there.)


I agree. What if they were sculpts on SS bodies??

Too bad they only managed two characters.




Outlander said:
The rights holders definitely keep a tight rein on things. We're lucky we got the three sequel novels!

The game was created, developed, and tested before it was licensed. Maybe the same could be done with figures...

:)
 
I thought the eye theme was because it's a movie about memory and most of our memories are visual. Like Batty says, "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe." And Tyrell's not an easy man to "see" - then he gouges his eyes out.

Incidentally, as I mentioned elsewhere, I managed to pick up on eBay a vinyl Android Hunter v3 head that was better than the resin original!
 
I didn't know about a resin version on the original. I has the impression that all the Android Hunters had vinyl heads from the beginning.

Anyway, it is good that people can find them.

BTW, the Android Hunter head can fit on a Sideshow male body with some modification, but the Batty figure looks best on it just because of size.
 
Declaring a definative replicant v. human verdict is like looking at this picture and declaring...



This is a picture of a young woman! Anyone who sees an old woman is wrong!

:D
 
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No GDB as usual, you are wrong, there is no woman there!

:rotfl :rotfl :rotfl

More seriously though, the debate arises from RS' general incompetence and hope of salvaging something out of a bad experience.

To resolve all issues past and future I assert the 'Holden Postulate'.

That is: The story is a re-occurring dream where factual inaccuracies are meaningless as story elements and there are no production/continuity flaws. This concept even includes the wires on the Spinners! Nothing is a flaw. Everything is a dream element. The first support of this is the vision of the city thgrough Holden's eye establishing it is his vision of the city. It follows that all things seen afterward may be in his mind or a memory from the suggestion of his eye. Remember it is his eye seen first, not Chew's or an owl.

We also see the repeating motif of fans. These may be real on site, or they may be a suggestion of what Holden sees as his life's blood is draining from his body.

To help illustrate this concept: see Jacob's Ladder. Other helpful films include: Total Recall and Angel Heart.

The Holden concept even covers RS' behind and makes him a visionary rather than a clutz who takes 25 years to get a film finished. ;)

All versions are correct and Deckard is/is not a replicant based on Holden's mood.

Anyway, it is a new concept to contribute to the old film.

"whatyougot??" :)
 
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