HBO's Game of Thrones

[Mister Ski]

Spoiler

Tyrion didn’t kill Joffrey — it was a setup. The real killer is Olenna Tyrell, or, more accurately, Littlefinger, by way of Olenna Tyrell. You didn’t forget about Littlefinger, did you?

Joffrey’s murder was an elaborate plan that began in the Season 4 premiere, when Ser Dontos reappears to give Sansa a necklace. Unbeknownst to Sansa, one of the jewels on the necklace is actually a vial of poison. No one knows this... except for Olenna Tyrell (and maybe Margaery, since she does not take a sip after Joffrey hands her the goblet).

During the wedding, Olenna approaches Sansa to apologize for the death of her family at the Red Wedding. During the scene, Olenna fondles Sansa’s necklace and discreetly palms one of the jewels, and in the next scene the jewel is missing from Sansa’s necklac. It’s subtle, but it’s definitely there (or, rather, not there). Olenna even foreshadows what she’s about to do, saying, “Killing a man at a wedding... horrid. What kind of monster would do something like that?” She’s a sly old bird.

Then, while Joffrey is choking, Ser Dontos approaches Sansa and tells her to come with him if she wants to live, knowing that her necklace could implicate her. In the books, Dontos takes Sansa to a boat, where Littlefinger is waiting for her. He explains to her that he hired Dontos to give her the necklace with the poison, which was then taken by Olenna to poison Joffrey. Littlefinger then kills Dontos in order to tie up loose ends before heading off to the Vale with Sansa.

So why did Olenna murder Joffrey? Because he’s awful, and would have abused her granddaughter. But why did Littlefinger set it up? Well, because he’s Littlefinger, and who knows why Littlefinger does anything?

^^^

Great recap!

Anyone who wants to know exactly what happened at the Purple Wedding needs to read this post.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

^^^

Great recap!

Anyone who wants to know exactly what happened at the Purple Wedding needs to read this post.

Or just read the book

 

[Darth Waller]

Joffrey has a little brother, remember? He is next in line for the throne.

Oh, yeah. That kid. I forgot about him.

 

[Rambler]

I'm still reading thru the 3rd book and just got passed the red wedding. Now I need to go back and rewatch the wedding scene again to see how it all happened again. So subtle that I missed it.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Or just read the book

Why get the little answer you're looking for when you can dig through 800+ pages of a book for it! Solid logic.

 

[Commander Cody]

Or just read the book

Lol this! The books are worth the time!

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[devilof76]

So obviously the wine/cup wasn't poisoned until after Margery sat it down at the end of the table, near Olenna.

Also, looks like it's the same cup, so I don't think anyone switched it with another...

What makes you think it was the wine?

 

[Commander Cody]

What makes you think it was the wine?

It is known.

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[devilof76]

I heard otherwise.

 

[Kibagami]

I heard otherwise.

They're wrong.

 

[devilof76]

If you say so.

 

[Kibagami]

If you say so.

Small chance they may be right, since they are changing things in the show from the book. Last episode has a change.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Thanks for the infraction Josh, I'm sure you enjoyed that.

What makes you think it was the wine?

To be clear, I don't think it was the wine itself, but I think Olenna put something in his wine after he went to go cut open the pie. If it wasn't the wine I bet it was something laced on the cup. I'm not 100% sure but I believe we saw more than one plate of pie being handed out, so if the pie was poisoned, surely the other people who ate it would have shown symptoms or died as well.

Joffrey drank wine from his cup, handed it to Margery, Margery sat it down near Olenna, Joffrey goes to cut open the pie, comes back, takes a drink from (what I assume is) the same cup, starts choking/convulsing within a matter of seconds.

He could have been poisoned in a much more obscure and unsuspecting way, but I just think based on everything we know and everything we've seen, it all points to the cup/wine.

 

[bruhkis]

I did innitially think it had to do with the pie..Joffrey made a face after eating the piece then proclaimed how dry it was and almost chugged the wine

 

[devilof76]

Small chance they may be right, since they are changing things in the show from the book. Last episode has a change.

I have no clue. The person who told me wouldn't know anything about the show that the rest of us don't.

 

[bruhkis]

They also showed the dead doves in the pie....which I just chalked up to him killing with the sword....but....

 

[SwedishHeat]

I'd heard something big happens at the wedding, I figured Joffrey'd have Shae's head in the pie or something. . . wasn't expecting Joffrey to go out that soon (relatively), I figured the writers would torture us with more sadistic Joffrey. . . but eh, see ya later, little buddy.

 

[devilof76]

I was waiting for bad things to happen to Shae the whole time. Bad things happening to Joffrey instead was a nice surprise.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Yeah, I was surprised Shae didn't get killed off. I was so sure Cersei or Joffrey would have her killed, and Tyrion would retaliate by killing Joffrey which is why we saw him chained up in a dungeon in the S4 trailers.

 

[devilof76]

I did innitially think it had to do with the pie..Joffrey made a face after eating the piece then proclaimed how dry it was and almost chugged the wine

They also showed the dead doves in the pie....which I just chalked up to him killing with the sword....but....

Yes, and yes. He was already reacting to the poison, and the dead dove was symbolic.

Or, not.