Hot Toys DX 03 speculation...

[karamazov80]

At least with MJ, he's got drastically different looks because he physically changed so much over the years. He started out as a black child, and slowly mutated into a bizarre-looking white woman. Not even Joker could do that!

 

[Annika]

Much as our own "pet" choices would have been nice to see (except for those who wanted Avatar--I'm hoping HT will decide not produce any of those eyesores at all), this is a good business move. They need to capitalize on the MJ interest now, because as his death slowly fades from memory, interest in toy versions of him is going to go down.

I'm going to have to politely disagree with that. Sure, the general public's interest will fade in the coming months and years, but they're not the ones buying the figures anyway. MJ fans are pretty rabid (and I say this as one of them) and have been through far worse things than a little thing like death. He's pretty much been dead to the world for the last five years anyway, and they're all still there!

 

[galactiboy]

We didn't need that many Jokers either....and people are still asking for nurse Joker too.

True, but how many people bought the V1 Joker even though the head looked like ____? Then bought the Bank robber to replace the V1 head. Then bought the DX as it fixed the problems of the V1, and had a better head than the Bank Robber?

HT knows how to make money, this will sell like gang busters. Its a great looking figure, I have no interest in him; but no surprise he's getting a DX treatment.

 

[bouncew]

pricetag for DX MJ?

 

[Preshea]

Much as our own "pet" choices would have been nice to see (except for those who wanted Avatar--I'm hoping HT will decide not produce any of those eyesores at all), this is a good business move. They need to capitalize on the MJ interest now, because as his death slowly fades from memory, interest in toy versions of him is going to go down.

Rambo, Terminator, and others aren't in the same boat. They are probably going to be just as popular in 6 months or a year as they are right now, so why should Hot Toys rush things?

I have to say... can we speed that process up? Look the man made Thriller, yes, one of the greatest albums of all time. BUT that doesn't change that fact that soon after he eventually became a troubled, decreased talent, self mutilated wack job who I also still believe was doing something he definately shouldnt have been doing with kids that he had no business with in a private setting. I for one am tired of hearing about him.... I want the media to let him die. Sad yea, but a fact of life.

 

[karamazov80]

I'm going to have to politely disagree with that. Sure, the general public's interest will fade in the coming months and years, but they're not the ones buying the figures anyway. MJ fans are pretty rabid (and I say this as one of them) and have been through far worse things than a little thing like death. He's pretty much been dead to the world for the last five years anyway, and they're all still there!

I understand that, but I think fans like you are similar to some of the hardcore Rambo fans we've seen here. Yeah, lots of people will buy MJ no matter when his figure is made, but some of the more casual fans won't (and I do think relatively casual fans will be buying now because he is in the public consciousness). And I think HT is trying to capitalize on that. I think the Heath Ledger Joker is the same. If HT would have waited until now to release his figure, I don't think he would have been the blockbuster success of a figure that he was.

 

[thenammagazine]

I have to say... can we speed that process up? Look the man made Thriller, yes, one of the greatest albums of all time. BUT that doesn't change that fact that soon after he eventually became a troubled, decreased talent, self mutilated wack job who I also still believe was doing something he definately shouldnt have been doing with kids that he had no business with in a private setting. I for one am tired of hearing about him.... I want the media to let him die. Sad yea, but a fact of life.

Get over it. People are still talking about Elvis despite the fact that he was a pill-popping hedonist. Bottom line is Michael Jackson did more good than "suspected" bad and like Elvis, will still be as popular 10 years from now as he was 20 years ago.

 

[Annika]

I have to say... can we speed that process up? Look the man made Thriller, yes, one of the greatest albums of all time. BUT that doesn't change that fact that soon after he eventually became a troubled, decreased talent, self mutilated wack job who I also still believe was doing something he definately shouldnt have been doing with kids that he had no business with in a private setting. I for one am tired of hearing about him.... I want the media to let him die. Sad yea, but a fact of life.

Feel free to leave the thread, don't let the door hit you on the way out!

 

[jediknight120]

Nice looking figure. No interest in MJ though, so easy pass.

 

[Annika]

I understand that, but I think fans like you are similar to some of the hardcore Rambo fans we've seen here. Yeah, lots of people will buy MJ no matter when his figure is made, but some of the more casual fans won't. And I think HT is trying to capitalize on that. I think the Heath Ledger Joker is the same. If HT would have waited until now to release his figure, I don't think he would have been the blockbuster success of a figure that he was.

Honestly, though, the majority of casual MJ fans won't buy it even now. In the greater scheme of things, they tend to be music fans and not so much figure collecting. Of course there are some, but they tend to be in the minority. Just look at the Billie Jean figure, which did perfectly well in spite of the fact that MJ had done bugger all in the years prior to its release. And that one's not even a good likeness.

 

[thenammagazine]

Honestly, though, the majority of casual MJ fans won't buy it even now. In the greater scheme of things, they tend to be music fans and not so much figure collecting. Of course there are some, but they tend to be in the minority. Just look at the Billie Jean figure, which did perfectly well in spite of the fact that MJ had done bugger all in the years prior to its release. And that one's not even a good likeness.

He certainly did well enough for HT to consider a DX. If the Thriller sales hadn't been there, I think they would've canned it. So somebody's buying them. I gotta agree with everyone's consensus of the time frame though. Like Ledger's Joker, the timing is perfect. MJ fans have a hole now and they're filling it with little Michael.

 

[karamazov80]

You may be right, but I recall the Billy Jean tribute MJ sitting at BBTS for ages with no one buying. And those were produced in such low numbers that the supply couldn't approach demand after MJ's death. Now they sell for absurd, $700+ prices on eBay.

 

[pixletwin]

MJ fans have a hole now and they're filling it with little Michael.

Ewwwwwwwww.

 

[Annika]

You may be right, but I recall the Billy Jean tribute MJ sitting at BBTS for ages with no one buying. And those were produced in such low numbers that the supply couldn't approach demand after MJ's death. Now they sell for absurd, $700+ prices on eBay.

True enough. I can't say I haven't been tempted to sell mine and then buy it back when the furor dies down, but I'm just too attached to the little guy.

 

[thenammagazine]

Ewwwwwwwww.

Double entendres FTW!

 

[Johnny Utah]

Stop justifying what the majority of fans see as a mistake. I want official confirmation that this is DX03. A lot of people are pissed off that this figure snuck into the DX line.

 

[karamazov80]

Stop justifying what the majority of fans see as a mistake. I want official confirmation that this is DX03. A lot of people are pissed off that this figure snuck into the DX line.

Well, maybe we'll get Ted next time. Sorry your guy didn't make it.

 

[Preshea]

Get over it. People are still talking about Elvis despite the fact that he was a pill-popping hedonist. Bottom line is Michael Jackson did more good than "suspected" bad and like Elvis, will still be as popular 10 years from now as he was 20 years ago.

Yea your right. I know thats how it will be and can't do much to change it, I was just speaking my mind. I wouldnt really compare Elvis to MJ though, drug use?... I can care less.But we're taking kids into consideration, not once but twice. Yea its all "suspected" but still the kind of behavior that was factual is FAR to questionable to be dimissed just because a jury said so.

 

[Annika]

Stop justifying what the majority of fans see as a mistake. I want official confirmation that this is DX03. A lot of people are pissed off that this figure snuck into the DX line.

Errr, what? There have been rumours that the next MJ would be a DX for ages. Relax dude, there will be other DXs, don't worry.

 

[Kuzeh]

Re: Hot Toys want you to guess what the DX03 is.

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Told you guys!!!
Awesome news!!!
Looks amazing!!! Great job HT!!!!