Hot Toys Justice League Cyborg

[Hoody999]

Can't even wait another week to see what the SS Con has to show.

Yeah, really hope there are a few more new Hot Toys.

Imagine they drop a ZSJL Darkseid prototype !! Never going to happen I know, but damn that would be killer !!

Wouldn't be that hard using a Thanos body with ankle extenders in the boots for some extra height.

 

[TheDucky]

Nah, skepticism is understandable, but NO company, no matter how little they care about their customers, would have the stones to post “we heard you” and then not release a long delayed and highly anticipated figure.
It will go up for preorder.

Let me introduce you to Hot Toys then.

 

[sj2106]

If Secret Base are unveiling it in August I assume he won't be at the Sideshow con next week.

 

[Johnny Utah]

It is exciting to see what they will have at their event and at Sideshow Con.

The brain starts fantasising but realistically it'll be extensions of existing lines.

Personally I would love to see a Riddler and Two-Face from Batman Forever.

 

[WolfBoy]

There’s a few missing for now, they showed King Shark but no other SS figs? You know 100% they’re doing Harley and that wasn’t shown either.
We’ll see more unveiling as the month rolls on.
I’d say when it comes to Cyborg HT will drag the reveal out to create hype.

 

[jal76]

Let me introduce you to Hot Toys then.

Crossbones, Valkyrie, Romero Joker, Shazam, Valerian, and Yellow Jacket would all agree with you…but this would be a new low for them.

 

[matticus]

Crossbones, Valkyrie, Romero Joker, Shazam, Valerian, and Yellow Jacket would all agree with you…but this would be a new low for them.

Hot Toys have learned their lesson. All teased figures and prototypes will be up for PO from now on.

 

[Hoody999]

Hot Toys have learned their lesson. All teased figures and prototypes will be up for PO from now on.

I really hope you're right on that one Matticus.

It was a ridiculous idea to begin with.

 

[Alatar]

Hot Toys have learned their lesson. All teased figures and prototypes will be up for PO from now on.

Hot Toys still dominates the industry in terms of quality, and they have the licenses for the hottest IPs, e.g., SW, Marvel, DC. But even so, other companies are making headway. I’ve spent about as much on my Asmus LotR collection as my Snyderverse collection. And I’m spending an absurd amount on even just my first figure in a series of Baldur’s Gate game kitbashes. There’s more fish in the sea than just Star Wars, MCU, and DC. For example, Threezero’s Game of Thrones line and Damtoys Assassin’s Creed lines look very impressive. In other words Hot Toys ain’t the only game in town if the market keeps expanding and 1/6 collecting increasingly becomes a pop culture trend, i.e., more of a mainstream thing. But sure enough, HT does still maintain a stranglehold on the most popular IP licenses, there’s no denying that. It’s only if enough customers start looking to other lines for their collections that HT would be forced to show more consideration to the customers.

Still it’s interesting that HT even added the hashtag #weheardyou. Have they ever done anything like that before? (I’ve only been collecting since 2019.) Like perhaps they’re realizing that they can’t take the customer too much for granted if the landscape is perhaps beginning to change to gradually include more competition?

 

[Johnny Utah]

Whoever posted that felt like throwing a dig in at the people that line their pockets.

If they just produced stuff they show, they wouldn't get so much **** on their social media.

 

[matticus]

I really hope you're right on that one Matticus.

It was a ridiculous idea to begin with.

Well I was really being facetious, but I hope it is true. Nothing to think that they wouldn't continue that type of behavior, making a proto, getting someone's hopes up, then not producing it. You see figures go right to PO without having it out on display before, so how do you really know it will sell good? Do they scour social media? People say they will buy something and might end up not buying it. We know there is certain characters that sell like IM, SM, DP, BM, but how will they determine say a Nightwing? You're telling me another Bespin Luke or a Padme wouldn't sell well over a Kuill? Just seems like right now, HT goes with what is hot now, then mixes in the big name characters. Bespin Luke will sell the same either now or in 3 years. DC is so empty right now, you are getting DC VG figures from a game 5 years old.

The game I've seen played is like a Bespin Han tease to sell the Bespin Leia reveal. It is a complimentary figure to sell the current one. That might be a bad sign for say a Red Guardian to sell Black Widow figures. I guess the only thing we can do is voice our opinions and hope they are heard. Give me Batman XE, Nighting, King Shark and Bespin Luke!!!

 

[Hoody999]

Well I was really being facetious, but I hope it is true. Nothing to think that they wouldn't continue that type of behavior, making a proto, getting someone's hopes up, then not producing it. You see figures go right to PO without having it out on display before, so how do you really know it will sell good? Do they scour social media? People say they will buy something and might end up not buying it. We know there is certain characters that sell like IM, SM, DP, BM, but how will they determine say a Nightwing? You're telling me another Bespin Luke or a Padme wouldn't sell well over a Kuill? Just seems like right now, HT goes with what is hot now, then mixes in the big name characters. Bespin Luke will sell the same either now or in 3 years. DC is so empty right now, you are getting DC VG figures from a game 5 years old.

The game I've seen played is like a Bespin Han tease to sell the Bespin Leia reveal. It is a complimentary figure to sell the current one. That might be a bad sign for say a Red Guardian to sell Black Widow figures. I guess the only thing we can do is voice our opinions and hope they are heard. Give me Batman XE, Nighting, King Shark and Bespin Luke!!!

In all reality I'm sure it is essentially still what Howard Chan likes = what gets made. Mixed into that is certainly business sense as to what sells. But these random figures which show up that no one asked for have to be things he likes, or simply them trying to break into new markets and expand their customer base.

That said I still have no idea why they would sink so much money into figures like Venom Deadpool. I guess they know the market better than us ? Asian tastes can be totally different to western ones I suppose.

 

[Hoody999]

Hot Toys still dominates the industry in terms of quality, and they have the licenses for the hottest IPs, e.g., SW, Marvel, DC. But even so, other companies are making headway. I’ve spent about as much on my Asmus LotR collection as my Snyderverse collection. And I’m spending an absurd amount on even just my first figure in a series of Baldur’s Gate game kitbashes. There’s more fish in the sea than just Star Wars, MCU, and DC. For example, Threezero’s Game of Thrones line and Damtoys Assassin’s Creed lines look very impressive. In other words Hot Toys ain’t the only game in town if the market keeps expanding and 1/6 collecting increasingly becomes a pop culture trend, i.e., more of a mainstream thing. But sure enough, HT does still maintain a stranglehold on the most popular IP licenses, there’s no denying that. It’s only if enough customers start looking to other lines for their collections that HT would be forced to show more consideration to the customers.

Still it’s interesting that HT even added the hashtag #weheardyou. Have they ever done anything like that before? (I’ve only been collecting since 2019.) Like perhaps they’re realizing that they can’t take the customer too much for granted if the landscape is perhaps beginning to change to gradually include more competition?

Yeah I really hope one of the 2nd tier 1/6 companies like Blitzway (that imo are almost at the level of Hot Toys) will break into one of the really big IP licences and offer some real competition to Hot Toys. This is also the problem. When you are at the top you get complacent, and arrogant which I think we've seen from Hot Toys from time to time.

Paint apps are the real point imo which make Hot Toys stand above the others. Many of the others can do the rest, especially now that some sculptors from hot Toys have moved on to other places of work. If they can get the paint as good as Hot Toys then they have some real competition.

Time will tell I guess.

 

[matticus]

The Netflix Witcher I would like to see made. Not much out there in that type of genre that currently has a show/movie out.

 

[Hoody999]

The Netflix Witcher I would like to see made. Not much out there in that type of genre that currently has a show/movie out.

What like this.....

https://toyswonderland.com/products...2ac7ee506d&utm_medium=email&utm_source=seguno
It's actually pretty good

 

[hbhf]

In all reality I'm sure it is essentially still what Howard Chan likes = what gets made. Mixed into that is certainly business sense as to what sells. But these random figures which show up that no one asked for have to be things he likes, or simply them trying to break into new markets and expand their customer base.

That said I still have no idea why they would sink so much money into figures like Venom Deadpool. I guess they know the market better than us ? Asian tastes can be totally different to western ones I suppose.

Respectfully, the problem with this line of thinking is that it relies on the idea that because you personally aren't asking for it, nobody is. Which often isn't the case. We go through variations of this conversation every single time Hot Toys announces some new Spider-Man, Iron Man or Batman variant over a lesser known character people supposedly want, and the truth often is that there's a fairly good chance those characters are gonna sell by virtue of the name attached.

Like, to use your own example, you're saying that Venom Deadpool makes no sense to produce. While I personally have very little interest, on paper all you have to do is see Venom is an extremely popular character, Deadpool is an extremely popular character, so slamming them together will probably sell reasonably well. They aren't even the only toy company making Venom Deadpool stuff.

Now, there seems to be a lot of bitterness here because a lot of the folks here are DC fans (duh, it's a DC Board), but it's been pretty extensively covered why there's a supposed Marvel bias regarding what HT is producing.

 

[Hoody999]

Respectfully, the problem with this line of thinking is that it relies on the idea that because you personally aren't asking for it, nobody is. Which often isn't the case. We go through variations of this conversation every single time Hot Toys announces some new Spider-Man, Iron Man or Batman variant over a lesser known character people supposedly want, and the truth often is that there's a fairly good chance those characters are gonna sell by virtue of the name attached.

Like, to use your own example, you're saying that Venom Deadpool makes no sense to produce. While I personally have very little interest, on paper all you have to do is see Venom is an extremely popular character, Deadpool is an extremely popular character, so slamming them together will probably sell reasonably well. They aren't even the only toy company making Venom Deadpool stuff.

Now, there seems to be a lot of bitterness here because a lot of the folks here are DC fans (duh, it's a DC Board), but it's been pretty extensively covered why there's a supposed Marvel bias regarding what HT is producing.

I don't get your point ?? It's essentially the same thing I said ???

I just think it's crazy to go spending so much development money and resources for such a big figure like this Venompool thing.

But anyway like I also said. It's Howard Chan's call. By the way it is still up at Sideshow to buy with 10% off.

 

[hbhf]

I don't get your point ?? It's essentially the same thing I said ???

I just think it's crazy to go spending so much development money and resources for such a big figure like this Venompool thing.

But anyway like I also said. It's Howard Chan's call. By the way it is still up at Sideshow to buy with 10% off.

I was saying that the argument was that HT just makes what Howard Chan personally thinks looks cool, and not what sells, and that I don't believe there's a lot of instances where (objectively) he's making crazy stuff that won't sell. As much as people roll their eyes at something like armored Deadpool or Venomized Iron Man, that's exact sort of thing I can see selling because those happen to be popular characters who move a lot of units to begin with.

 

[WolfBoy]

I just think it's crazy to go spending so much development money and resources for such a big figure like this Venompool thing.

It’s not crazy if the product sells, which i can only assume it will based on the popularity of both characters.

 

[ironwez20]

No it doesn't sell. Infact I think it's still up on most sites. People don't want that gimmicky crap they just want a pure comic accurate deadpool or venom. The mish mash of crap you see like venom groot and venom spider don't sell