Hot Toys - MMS 100 - Terminator Salvation - Marcus Wright- spec + hi-res pics

[cedric72]

Poor Christian When will he ever get a break?

 

[nicky]

I hope SS gets him!

Why wouldnt they?

 

[cr`]

now now... there's no need to put down bale just because worthington is the next big thing. bale earned every feather in his wings.

and dont get too hyped up about the new film. check the reviews. worthington is great, yeah. everyone said that. but the film itself falls way short when compared to the first 2. those were more adult oriented, this new one is said to be geared more towards teens.

 

[Voorhees27]

now now... there's no need to put down bale just because worthington is the next big thing. bale earned every feather in his wings.

and dont get too hyped up about the new film. check the reviews. worthington is great, yeah. everyone said that. but the film itself falls way short when compared to the first 2. those were more adult oriented, this new one is said to be geared more towards teens.

Did anyone actually think it would be even close?

 

[MaulFan]

Did anyone actually think it would be even close?

Exactly, at this point, the bar to reach is coming up somewhere between T1/T2 and T3. Without Cameron taking the reigns or a director who truly gets T1 and T2 to carry on what they established, they will never be equalled, but you can come much closer than T3, which is my hope for Salvation. T1 and T2 have story, I'm hoping TS does as well, T3 was just pure action.

 

[cr`]

Did anyone actually think it would be even close?

never underestimate today's audience. $85 million opening gross for wolverine. that says a lot of what they think is a great movie.

 

[MaulFan]

never underestimate today's audience. $85 million opening gross for wolverine. that says a lot of what they think is a great movie.

No, that says a lot about how hyped up people get for movies before they're out. 70% drop off in sales after week one says what people think is a great movie.

 

[Voorhees27]

never underestimate today's audience. $85 million opening gross for wolverine. that says a lot of what they think is a great movie.

Are you comparing TS falling short to T1 & T2 as a great movie or in terms of box office results? Those are 2 big difference because T3 made just under half a billion dollars and was also a weak film.

 

[MaulFan]

Are you comparing TS falling short to T1 & T2 as a great movie or in terms of box office results? Those are 2 big difference because T3 made just under half a billion dollars and was also a weak film.

Because for what it was, it was a good movie, a fun action blockbuster, but as an entry into a series, it was a very weak dropoff from what the first 2 installments were. Sequels that fail to carry on the magic of the originals can still gross well at the box office. T2 is highly acclaimed because it's a rare sequel that carried on the spirit and great qualities of the original.

 

[Voorhees27]

Because for what it was, it was a good movie, a fun action blockbuster, but as an entry into a series, it was a very weak dropoff from what the first 2 installments were. Sequels that fail to carry on the magic of the originals can still gross well at the box office. T2 is highly acclaimed because it's a rare sequel that carried on the spirit and great qualities of the original.

Never once did I find the movie decent, even as a stand alone entry. It was goofy and lame. I found it humorous though, i'll give it that much.

 

[cr`]

No, that says a lot about how hyped up people get for movies before they're out. 70% drop off in sales after week one says what people think is a great movie.

part of it was marketing hype, sure. part of it was also the strong words of mouth. fact is lots of mediocre movies outperform the great ones at the box office(and i'm not even talking about arthouse films). that says more about the audience general taste than anything. to them adam sandler is the king of comedy, and michael bay is the king of action.

 

[cr`]

Are you comparing TS falling short to T1 & T2 as a great movie or in terms of box office results? Those are 2 big difference because T3 made just under half a billion dollars and was also a weak film.

box office numbers never equates quality. i was just saying to most people(outside the geek realm), cameron and mcg meant exactly ^^^^. they wont see the difference between an actioneer done by an artist and another summer blockbuster done by a hack. the bigger the explosions the better the movie is.

 

[MaulFan]

Never once did I find the movie decent, even as a stand alone entry. It was goofy and lame. I found it humorous though, i'll give it that much.

I enjoyed the guns and the SFX, full CGI battle damage was cool to me because you could see more and it was more realistic.

part of it was marketing hype, sure. part of it was also the strong words of mouth. fact is lots of mediocre movies outperform the great ones at the box office(and i'm not even talking about arthouse films). that says more about the audience general taste than anything. to them adam sandler is the king of comedy, and michael bay is the king of action.

Performance of films isn't entirely tied to quality. Some of the most successful films are because they're accessible to the biggest audience. Transformers is a huge success because people from age 5-65 go and watch it, right or wrong with little kids seeing it, parents do take them. The number of parents likely to take kids to T:S are much smaller so the audience size decreases, and add to that a number of hardcore fans of T1 and T2 that reject anything they don't feel fits with the first films, it has to live up to that or it won't succeed, doesn't take away from it's quality. T:S could be one of the greatest movies ever, but if it doesn't fit as a Terminator film, it may still not succeed, that's the downside of being part of an ongoing story, even if you're good by yourself, there's an expectation, and rightly so, that you'll mesh with the other films.

 

[cr`]

T:S could be one of the greatest movies ever, but if it doesn't fit as a Terminator film, it may still not succeed, that's the downside of being part of an ongoing story, even if you're good by yourself, there's an expectation, and rightly so, that you'll mesh with the other films.

not quite. i believe the new film just has to be GREAT on its own, and people can forgive if it mesh a little with the mythology set by the cameron films. this is an all new chapter after all, with an all new cast. just look at the RT ratings and box office gross of the new star trek.

 

[MaulFan]

not quite. i believe the new film just has to be GREAT on its own, and people can forgive if it mesh a little with the mythology set by the cameron films. this is an all new chapter after all, with an all new cast. just look at the RT ratings and box office gross of the new star trek.

Yes, but Star Trek keeps in touch with what made Star Trek work in the first place, that's it's strength, for once, a reboot completely captures and embodies what worked in the original.

That what I mean with meshing with T1 and T2. There are qualities to the first two Terminator films that Cameron captured and are what made them the successes they are, T3 failed to meet that, and no matter how good T:S might be by itself, if it still doesn't capture what Cameron had, then it won't feel like a good entry into the Terminator series.

If Abrams reinvented Trek with his film, it'd be a flop guaranteed, but he knew what made it work and he captured that, just telling it from a different viewpoint.

Trusting in Bale's mindest towards this movie, I have hopes it'll be a good story, but Bale's not concerned with it's ties to the franchise, just the immediate film he's involved in, so whether it'll work as a T film will have to wait a week to be determined.

 

[cr`]

whether the new trek kept true to the original series will depend on who you talk to. there are many who dont agree(havent seen it yet so i cant decide), and still think it's a great film. T3 is bad not because it didn't capture what the first 2 had, but because it's completely unnecessary. it's a retread of the originals but is played like one big joke.

 

[MaulFan]

Back onto Marcus for a moment, i have to say I'm stunned at the price this comes in at, in a positive way. I figured this could be pushing $170 given what's included and how the figure's excuted.

 

[slipknotpredator]

Looks cool but i dont have the money, to many things on preorder... cant believe i wont have all TS figures

 

[pjam]

Back onto Marcus for a moment, i have to say I'm stunned at the price this comes in at, in a positive way. I figured this could be pushing $170 given what's included and how the figure's excuted.

No array of weapons and accessories to speak of though, Sean. No light up eye either... yes, there's an arm mod that's different, but it's a pretty simple figure.

And for the record, The head Sculpt is very good IMO. Maybe if they do a DX, we'll see a better sculpt and more goodies for a higher price. Once the Movie is out, I think Marcus will be the desired "Human" Character fig to have.

 

[plasmid303]

I'd be more impressed by the price if there was a way for me to utilize the second jacket/coat and head. They should have just made this a DX and charged us the extra $20-$30 if it meant we'd get more accessories and a set of pants, boots, and a shirt.

EDIT: I just had a brainwave. HT would be on a roll (no pun intended) if they could implement the PERS system with a light- up eye for Marcus. Pipe dream, but worth wishing for.