Hot Toys MMS243 - 1/6th scale Captain America & Steve Rogers
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YankeesFanboy
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Still looking forward to this. Only five to seven more weeks to go. 
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Ok had another go at trying to obtain that V shape but didn't remove the fat suit, just reshaped both that and the stealth shirt underneath by putting rubber bands around the where the bottom torso meets the top torso and another one just under the waist. LMK what you guys think.
guy66657
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Ok had another go at trying to obtain that V shape but didn't remove the fat suit, just reshaped both that and the stealth shirt underneath by putting rubber bands around the where the bottom torso meets the top torso and another one just under the waist. LMK what you guys think.
I don't get exactly how you did that with rubber bands but that looks fantastic! I wanna do that. Could you show what the rubber bands look like on the figure?
WhoaItsJBot
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Okay DA, that looks great! You gotta post pics of where the rubber bands are at. Did you do anything to the arms?
Looks good DA!!
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AAAAAHHH!!!! It's winter soldier Cap! And he's got no head!
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I'm at work and it's snowing . . . Again. The modification looks great! I'd love yo know how you did it.
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So Sideshow has notified two friends of mine who ordered this after I did and both used flex pay (as did I) that they're being charged in the next few days. Meanwhile, my account still shows the final payment scheduled for March. So I chatted today with CS and was told that "Full Pay" orders are being fulfilled first and they did not get their full allotment of the set.
There are a number of problems with this:
First, my two buddies did flex pay and paid after I did. So some flex-pay customers are getting them and others are not.
Second, if I placed my order first, I should be getting billed & shipped before they are.
Third, if SS is not charging the full-pay customers until the items ship, shouldn't the people who've already paid 3/4 of the cost (including the NRFD) be first in line? That's not as good for their cash flow, but it would seem like ethical business. "Give us a bunch of money upfront and then go to the back of the line, while people who've given us the NRD only step to the front" makes no sense.
As I told CS, I buy a lot of stuff direct from SS, but they keep giving me lots of reasons not to....
There are a number of problems with this:
First, my two buddies did flex pay and paid after I did. So some flex-pay customers are getting them and others are not.
Second, if I placed my order first, I should be getting billed & shipped before they are.
Third, if SS is not charging the full-pay customers until the items ship, shouldn't the people who've already paid 3/4 of the cost (including the NRFD) be first in line? That's not as good for their cash flow, but it would seem like ethical business. "Give us a bunch of money upfront and then go to the back of the line, while people who've given us the NRD only step to the front" makes no sense.
As I told CS, I buy a lot of stuff direct from SS, but they keep giving me lots of reasons not to....
There is some random way in which SS ship items out.
I have ordered on day one and waited three weeks after the item starts shipping to get mine shipped out.
And meanwhile, people who ordered the day it came into stock got theirs sent out the next day.
There's no rhyme or reason to it.
And sadly, complaining won't do any good.
There has been talk that the amount of times you have placed an order and cancelled might be a factor. Vut that hasn't been confirmed as far as i know.
Re: Hot Toys MMS243 - 1/6th scale Captain America & Steve Rogers
There has to be some secret method to their madness when it comes to fulfilling orders ... I jumped on the wait-list for avengers cap and it converted the same day while some peoples never converted who were on it much longer.
There has to be some secret method to their madness when it comes to fulfilling orders ... I jumped on the wait-list for avengers cap and it converted the same day while some peoples never converted who were on it much longer.
cofphoto
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I paid for the full set and did not flex so..... 
But yeah, I don't think they ship things in the order that they were received, unfortunately.
But yeah, I don't think they ship things in the order that they were received, unfortunately.
WhoaItsJBot
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Maybe they fulfill orders with randomly generated lists. It must be a way to try and not take preference for one customer over another.
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The CS told me it's policy that they fill "full-pay"* orders first; let's assume CS is right.
If this assumption is true, then the policy is about nothing but how fast SS can get a customers cash into their bank account.
If SS converts "full-pay" orders into cash by shipping those first, instead of taking the final flex-pay payment and shipping those, that's a win for them.
"Full-Pay" buyers have only paid (to date) a 10% NRD, so SS gets an influx of cash via the outstanding 90% of the total amount on each item they ship.
This seems unfair, as flex-payers have already fronted them 75%(ish) of the total.
But from their POV, why hurry to fulfill a flex-pay order when you've already gotten 75% of the customer's payment? All SS gets out of that in liquidity is 25%.
By this logic, it works against a buyer to pay SS a larger amount of money in advance via flex-pay for a pre-order than it does to keep your cash on hand, and pay them all at once. If you flex-pay they have access to your cash for a longer period of time (and you don't, which is a lose for you) plus they ship your order later.
This is bad policy that will ultimately backfire, especially as shipping schedules continue to wildly fluctuate and prices wildly escalate.
Powerfully lame.
* obviously this is not "full-pay" as they put down 10% when they placed the order, but go with it as that's how CS referred to those buyers to me.
If this assumption is true, then the policy is about nothing but how fast SS can get a customers cash into their bank account.
If SS converts "full-pay" orders into cash by shipping those first, instead of taking the final flex-pay payment and shipping those, that's a win for them.
"Full-Pay" buyers have only paid (to date) a 10% NRD, so SS gets an influx of cash via the outstanding 90% of the total amount on each item they ship.
This seems unfair, as flex-payers have already fronted them 75%(ish) of the total.
But from their POV, why hurry to fulfill a flex-pay order when you've already gotten 75% of the customer's payment? All SS gets out of that in liquidity is 25%.
By this logic, it works against a buyer to pay SS a larger amount of money in advance via flex-pay for a pre-order than it does to keep your cash on hand, and pay them all at once. If you flex-pay they have access to your cash for a longer period of time (and you don't, which is a lose for you) plus they ship your order later.
This is bad policy that will ultimately backfire, especially as shipping schedules continue to wildly fluctuate and prices wildly escalate.
Powerfully lame.
* obviously this is not "full-pay" as they put down 10% when they placed the order, but go with it as that's how CS referred to those buyers to me.
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At this point I'm just going to be waiting and when I get a email saying I got charged I'll be happy. Sideshow has no clue when they'll really get there items in. It's frustrating for sure but I can wait.
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Yes sideshow holds your money with a flex pay over full pay. And I think it should be first come first serve. That said, flex pay costs nothing. It's a free service to customers. So if the cost is delayed shipment I think that's fair. Yes sideshow holds the money. But the flex pay program is added work they do not charge for. There is no lay-a-way type fee. No interest or anything else, as it's essential a payment plan for goods. I'm fine with a little longer wait if it is the cost for flex pay. I think it's a wonderful service.
I do think as I stated it should be first come first serve. But doing so may require changes to the flex pay schedule and that could be why. instead of a change to every single flex as it is done now, it would have to be a change to each individual order. If there are 500 orders, instead of one change and email for everyone, it would have to calculate and communicate individually with 500 customers.
I do think as I stated it should be first come first serve. But doing so may require changes to the flex pay schedule and that could be why. instead of a change to every single flex as it is done now, it would have to be a change to each individual order. If there are 500 orders, instead of one change and email for everyone, it would have to calculate and communicate individually with 500 customers.
cofphoto
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Policy makes sense to me, if it's my business. The sooner you get more money in the bank, the better. Flex pay isn't there to help SSC, it's there to help people afford what they are buying.
Also it probably is typically more irrelevant when they are getting big, full shipments in and the difference is a matter of a couple of days. But in this case it could be a month or more between the first and second batches? Who knows.
Also it probably is typically more irrelevant when they are getting big, full shipments in and the difference is a matter of a couple of days. But in this case it could be a month or more between the first and second batches? Who knows.
The Flex does help the customer but it also definitely helps SSC. If SSC is getting your money, they rather get it sooner rather than later. So for you to start paying for a figure months before release works in SSC favor.
